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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:22 AM
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White Racists Want Their America Back.

I underestimated the hate in America. When Obama ran, I supported a different candidate because he was to the left of Obama. I thought electing a black man would be a great thing, but found his positions too conciliatory with big business. Obama was left of center, a man with a good heart, but I wanted a fighter, and I didn't think he would be one, at least not as much. When my candidate dropped out in late January 2008, the brusies from dkos battles were too great to endorse Obama right away, although I did in early May, a couple weeks before John Edwards did. Long preamble, but here's my point.

I was wrong. Electing an African-American was the most progressive thing we could do. Until we deal with race in this nation, until the racism of white privilege is extinguished, progressive outcomes will always be difficult to obtain. And electing Obama is beginning of the end of white racism as way of life in this nation.

I have a video after the fold, but this is the key point:

"At this point in my life, I have never seen my America turned into what it has turned into, and I want my America back," said one woman, on the verge of tears. "

TomP's diary :: ::
It's not about health care, public options, details of plans. That is not what motivates the opposition we see. It's the end of a way of life in which mediocre whites have better jobs, better lives, better health care, because of their skin privilege. It's the end of an idea, an idea that told some whites that they were better just because their skin was pinkish or "flesh-colored" as Crayola so racistly used to describe.

It is the death rattle of racism. The racists feel it. Their way of life is ending. White privilege is going away. It may take time and there still are many examples of institutionalized racism (differing medical outcomes, diseases, health, lead poisoning, environmental injustice, African Americans overrepresented in poverty, job discrimination, educational discrimination, ... etc.), but the direction is clear.

With the election of Barack Obama as President of the United States, their way of life is ending:

"At this point in my life, I have never seen my America turned into what it has turned into, and I want my America back," said one woman, on the verge of tears. "

TPM: Ross, Snyder Meet Angry Crowd In Arkansas Town Hall

That America is going, going, gone. Justice exists, a better America is being created. The Reverand Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s dream is in sight, and their nightmare is fading away for the majority of Americans.

The birther movement is just an example of the refusal to accept the legitimacy of a black man as President. Insurance companies cynically are capitalizing on the white racist anguish, profiting from hate in an effort to save their profits from disease and death. But this is about more than health care to the Tea Baggers, more than taxes. It's the end of their way of life.

America is greater than the sins of slavery and racism. It's not her America; it's America. And Barack Obama, a black man, is our President.

Barack Obama Inauguration Oath 2009
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/6/762609/-White-Racists-Want-Their-America-Back.-
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:24 AM
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1. Racists make me sick to my stomach - I have nothing but scorn for them
They're disgusting creatures.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:25 AM
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2. "I want my America back".. Lady, YOUR America can f#ck off and die; hopefully, it will -n/t
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:10 PM
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31. Her America was a bunch of grits-eating surrender-monkeys who did their thing at
Appamatox Court House and then took out their pathetic loser poutrage on an entire ethnic group for over a century. Fuck them all, and the sooner they all die, the better... :nuke:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:26 AM
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3. Deal with it, racists. There's no going back now.
I'm just sorry they're too ignorant to understand what a good thing this is, finally.
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:32 AM
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4. The male chauvinists want it back, too
The male chauvinists don't like the idea of women having any say in this society any more than they do a black man.

Look at what happenned in Pittsburgh the other day...a hate crime against women. That guy was clearly a male chauvinist that wanted male dominance back.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:33 AM
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5. Two Words for the Racist Trash...
Tough Shit.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:36 AM
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6. What fucking part of "America" has gone away that is worth missing?
So we elected a centrist Democrat after a Republican who really fucked things up and had 6 years of non-stop Republican power. We elected a black guy. There will be an elections in 3.5 years.

If the centrist Democrat black guy who seems to be doing a pretty good job. If he doesn't you stand to actually put another dopey shithead Republican who is whiter than a sheet and can fuck things up to high hell again keeping some imagined "status quo."

So what part of "America" is gone?
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:42 AM
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7. Specious Argument
Attempting to just say anyone who disagrees with you is a racist is the most ignorant thing you could do. Millions of people opposed the exact same platforms when a white man was advocating them.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:45 AM
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8. This will be recced for the greatest page in record time, yet the story...
about the Indian mounds in the South being razed has all but disappeared from the site already. Typical.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 12:27 PM
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16. That story made the rounds a month or two back, didn't it?
Might be why there's less attention being paid now...
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 12:37 PM
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17. where was that? We just got a book about Mounds and plan to visit some
this summer.

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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 12:41 PM
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18. Here's the link...
http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/08/alabama-city-destroying-ancient-indian-mound-for-sams-club.html

Unfortunately the story sunk like a stone. Native Americans don't hold much water for most DU'ers in the "race relations concern" hierarchy.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:02 PM
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22. Many of us in the (high population) East have little to no exposure
You're right - it's not as high on the "race relations hierarchy because we're not exposed to it in our day to day lives. Doesn't make us evil, just more concerned with problems under our own noses.

I don't know a single Native American, and have never seen one suffering obvious discrimination by white co-workers (which I see with my own eyes with black colleagues). I don't hear slurs being used against them when people think they're among like-minded racists (whereas I hear people still using "niggers" in casual conversations). I don't have Indian friend bitching about DWI (but I hear about black friends being pulled over).

I'm certain they ARE suffering job discrimination, having slurs slung at and about them, and getting racially profiled, but I don't see or hear it like I do with friends/neighbors/colleauges who are black.

It's demographics. People in Spokane WA or Chandler AZ may see and hear the injustice being done to native americans, but its not on our radar here in the East. I'm not defending it - just saying that we tend to be more concerned about things that go on around ourselves.

But if it's a concern of yours, keep speaking up, posting threads, helping raise awareness.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:09 PM
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24. Thanks, and I agree with your post, we tend to be more concerned with things around us...
But I do think there's unfortunately a general "hierarchy" if you will regarding whose rights we DU'ers will get up in arms about to defend. And as an African-American man myself, I'm not afraid to say that it's disturbing how riled up people on DU will get about the Gates issue, or a picture of Obama as a witch doctor, but stories about other discrimination sink pretty quickly. Here's how I see our priorities:

1. African-Americans

and

way

down

here

2. All other minorities lumped into one group
3. GBLT
4. Women

Call it "white guilt," call it the demographics, call it what you will. Just my 2 cents.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:35 PM
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27. could be white guilt
in addition to sheer proximity. Many of our parent weren't around to oppress native americans, but certainly relished keeping black folks in their place (I shudder to hear my own parents' stories of growing up in the 1930's, and how they themselves treated non-whites).

And I agree that women's issue sink to the bottom, partially because I think sometimes we women are so used to the shit the culture puts out there about us that we either buy into it to some degree or at very least don't even see it, and partially because we know some of the guys will scream "man-haters!" if we bring anything up, even here. I have ALWAYS said we'd have a black president long before a woman president (although i'm surprised our first black President was a Dem - I assumed it would be a Republican of some type). I knew this when I heard misogynist military types salivating over the prospect of Colin Powell for President, at the same time they were so worried that Hillary would in some way personally emasculate them.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:37 PM
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28. Thanks Patiod, I appreciate your reply and insights! n/t
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:38 PM
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33. I know a woman who will accept her (1/2) Asian grandchildren, but not her (1/2)Black grandchildren.
I know a White couple who have (1/2)Mexican son by the wife's previous marriage, and the husband is bigoted against Blacks.

People go to South America, Asia, or Russia to adopt. It's only recently that White couples have been adopting Black children.

I would say that Blacks have been the least accepted of minorities. Perhaps that's why people are so passionate about it.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:45 AM
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9. I bet the elderly woman complaining about how
unfair it was for 80% to have to help the other 20% sure loves her Medicare.

The ignorance is alarming.
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:47 AM
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10. These are selfish dinosauers and their attitudes won't be missed.
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:49 AM
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11. How many of these racists are glad to take advantage of all the
scientific discoveries and advances from other ethnic groups?
Ignorant hypocrites.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 11:55 AM
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12. White supporters of Obama are getting a taste of what blacks and other people
of color in this country have known for a very long time.

It's been an education for many people.

If treatment of Obama and Sotomayor haven't opened some eyes, nothing will.

Thanks for your post, Joanne.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 12:13 PM
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13. I believe there will be killings before this is over -
and I'm not talking about the sporadic 'nutcase' killings we have had.

I predict insurrection and crackdown like Waco - only race/religion/political renegades who really see the violent overthrow of the government as a viable option....

Maybe hundreds, or even thousands of them.

Maybe nutcase separatists willing to start the revolution by becoming martyrs, dying for the warlord Jesus and becoming blessed angels of the revolution to make America white again.

Just like our lord and savior, the White Conqueror, Jaysus
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 12:16 PM
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14. It was never "their" America to begin with.
Tell them to tell it to the Native Americans.

:kick:
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 12:20 PM
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15. I say we let them have it.
Let them pick a state, we will expel it from the union, let all of them move there, and everyone there who is sane, move out into the other 49, and then we surround the expelled little racist state with a mile-wide death strip. Let them stay there and rot in their fascist mayberry. They'll soon degenerate into madness, or inbreed themselves into extinction. Either way it works out for the rest of us.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:31 PM
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26. South Carolina comes to mind... How's that Christian Secessionist thing going down there?
Are they ready to check-out of the Union yet?

Tesha

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:52 PM
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29. I have been saying the same thing for a long time
Give them what they want, their pure religious state. The second coming of a Christian Taliban. I say wall of the state as they would to Mexico.
I say let them have the kind of state that they think is ideal in their minds.

No gov money for medicaire, SS, highways. No Federal help for disasters. No funding from the gov for their schools. Let's see how fast they destroy themselves.

They are disruptive to the progress of the US....let's just let them go.

I am in total agreement with you!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 12:46 PM
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19. Brilliant post. K & R nt
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BooBluePotion Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 12:47 PM
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20. Freeper Racists Have a HUGE Problem Ahead
Call them Latino,Asian! Indian Multi Taskers NON Bigot Governors Senators Representatives who will soon run for the highest office in the land:)

What Then Freepers?

I predict racists heads will be exploding and rolling
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 12:54 PM
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21. K&R
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:05 PM
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23. Excellent. K&R
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miyazaki Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 02:10 PM
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25. They want the 'good ol' days back. Only good if you were white.
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:05 PM
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30. This part is very true...
"Until we deal with race in this nation, until the racism of white privilege is extinguished, progressive outcomes will always be difficult to obtain. "

Any debate I've ever had about social safety net programs and other progressive programs, the dissenters almost always portray the recipients of those programs as minorities only. Thanks Reagan.

They used to be coy about, when railing on about welfare abusers they used to only wonder aloud how much "those people" spent on braids or their daughter's quinceanera. <---That was taken from an actual argument I had with someone, those aren't my ponderings.

Now Glenn Beck has given them the go ahead to come right out and say - progressive programs are just another form of reparations!

And it's not just race, they are threatened by all minority groups.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 10:13 PM
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32. k & R
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