Two fugging glock killing machines - are you hearing Governor Rendell DUers

[malaise]

Yes last night's slaughterer , a man with a history of mental, problems opened fire on those women with two fugging glock killing machines

[babylonsister]

1. Stand by for defense of glocks. nt

[vadawg]

5. i am looking at my glock right now, and it seems pretty stable

ill have to call my wife to make sure her glock isnt changing into some sort of monster....

[sharesunited]

33. It's you who are the wild card. Brain chemistry dangling by the thinnest of threads.

[Subdivisions]

73. Indeed. n/t

[The Straight Story]

82. Quick, shoot your glock, before it wanders off killing

Those things are worse than pit bulls. The only other way to save it from harming others is to change it's name to something more happy sounding :)

[LeftHander]

91. How big is your glock?

Your wife has a glock??

That is kinda hot...


Ignore the glock teasers on this board.

[vadawg]

97. lol my glock is big enough, hers is smaller so she can conceal easier lol

she can even carry at the beach in a small purse, that matches her bikini :)

[snooper2]

94. If that thing start moving around like some kind of transformer

run motherfucker RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl:

[zbdent]

36. and knowing the spellchecking of freepers ...

some of their glocks flash 12:00 constantly ...

[vadawg]

50. bwahaaaaaa line of the day

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. I say we ban weight lifting so this will never happen again.

[anonymous171]

6. I second that proposal. Weight lifting encourages men to be aggressive.

And aggression leads to violence, which is terrible and should be prevented at all costs.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. Furthermore, we should ban sexy hoez exercising in public.

After all, that's what made him do it.

[redqueen]

10. No, his mind was warped by a religious cult.

So we should probably just ban all religions, just to be safe.

[rd_kent]

14. I am SO onboard with that idea

Seriously.

[WildEyedLiberal]

81. Which other amendments would you like to discard?

You've already banned the First and Second. The Third is pretty obsolete, let's get rid of that too. Why not just make our way down the list?

DU and Freeperland: proving once again that, no matter which "side" you're on, extremists just doesn't give a rat's ass about the Constitution or civil liberties.


Edit: apologies if you were being facetious. It's hard to tell on this board sometimes...

[rd_kent]

89. My point was, that if we are going to ban one thing

then lets start banning the stuff that REALLY is dangerous. There was some tongue in cheek there, I guess my "seriously" threw you off, my apologies. I do not want to ban anything.

[LanternWaste]

105. Many people would like to ban...

Many people would like to ban philosophies and ideas that they don't agree with. It's quite common-- some people don't like pot and want to see it banned, others want to see public art displays banned, while still others don't like a particular way of thinking and want to see it banned.

If that were actually instituted, I imagine the rate of 'thought crimes' so many righteously rail against would increase to the nth degree.

Seriously.

[csziggy]

17. +1

[snooper2]

95. A religious cult

and the fact that for 19 years no sexy hoez would give him no booty...

[redqueen]

102. Yes, I forgot to mention the Healing Power of Vagina.

Christ that shit gets so fucking old.

[greguganus]

53. He turned out the lights. Let's ban all light switches too. n/t

[Statistical]

58. No ban all dark. n/t

[greguganus]

61. Someone would cry racism because only the light would be allowed. n/t

[spanone]

64. exercising or the dark didn't kill the victims....the pistols did.

[Statistical]

65. Well technically bullets did. n/t

[spanone]

66. not technically. they did.

[WeDidIt]

9. I'll bet a good portion of his problem was steroids

After reading his blog entries, he comes off as a roid freak.

[spanone]

3. k&r - guns don't kill people, guns owned by people kill people

[Sebastian Doyle]

4. I'll bet he bought them at a gun show

It's way past time to plug that loophole.

**cue the scripted talking points from gungeon dwelling NRA shills.....**

[Statistical]

7. Irony: using scripted talking point to setup the "cue the scripted talking points" charge. n/t

[Greyhound]

68. Too true. n/t

[malaise]

11. Amazing

NRA profits trump life.
Insurance profits trump life.
Big pharma profits trump life
Hospital profits trump life

Unregulated Capitalism rules forever!!!

Wake up and live y'all - Marley!

[gratuitous]

13. One mustn't question holy dogma

And the High Church of Redemptive Violence has a rather obvious way of dealing with heretics.

[anonymous171]

15. Wut? The NRA is a special interest group, like AARP. nt

[spanone]

16. bwhahahahahaaa

[anonymous171]

18. Oh I'm sorry. I must not be up on the latest conspiracies.

Enlighten me.

[spanone]

22. the nra has been in my state working on getting guns in bars & state parks

no conspiracy, just stupidity

[malaise]

26. That simple

Kill, kill, kill for profit

[anonymous171]

28. EXPLAIN HOW THE NRA MAKES A PROFIT FROM REPRESENTING GUN OWNERS PLEASE nt

[malaise]

32. I don't nornally respond to people who shout

but even you know that assault weapons kill and injure a lot of people

[Statistical]

38. Not really ALL rifles are involved in about 8% of homicides and

That is all rifles of which "assault weapons" are only a small subset.
Handguns are the weapon most used in violent crime & homicides.
If % of crime is the deciding factor it should be handguns not scary black rifles that should be banned.

Please get your talking points right.

[benEzra]

107. Rifles are used in ~3% of U.S. homicides, not 8%.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/table_20.html

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

57. Assault weapons?

Were these Glock Killing Machine assault weapons he used?

Or just Glock Killing Machine handguns?

[fuzzy britches]

98. They sure as hell did kill a lot of Iraqis

but I suspect that isn't what you are complaining about.

[spanone]

35. how do you think wayne lapierre get his million dollar a year salary?

[RaleighNCDUer]

39. They don't represent gun owners. They represent gun manufacturers.

They may charge dues from members, but the goodies they get for 'free' from the gun manufacturers WAY exceeds their revenue from dues.

[Statistical]

42. Really got any stats on that?

4 million members * 35 per year = 140 million. That doesn't even include donations. My next door neighbor didn't blink at donating $500 this year. Membership is just the start of the methods to get revenue from each member. NRA items, donations, fund raisers, corp partners (lifelock, insurance companies, etc), training & education, licensing of NRA instructors, NRA ranges, private ranges getting NRA charter.

If they only get an average of $35 more per person from all that junk that is close to $270 million. NRA budget last year was $220 million. Not a lot of room in there for "goodies" from gun manufacturers to be a substantial portion of the books.

[Sebastian Doyle]

60. They don't represent gun OWNERS

They represent gun MANUFACTURERS.

EDIT: Ooops.... It appears that I now owe RaleighNCDuer a Coke.......



Only the real stuff (from Mexico) in the glass bottle of course. Not that HFCS crap.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

30. Whose profit?

[elehhhhna]

79. and daycare centers

[RaleighNCDUer]

37. Exactly - the special interest of each is to maximize their own profits and

relevance.

Neither is interested in the public welfare.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

27. What NRA profits?

[Sebastian Doyle]

104. The ones that pay Wayne The Peter a million dollar salary

And buy half of Congress.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

23. It would not matter, there is no gun show loophole

[Sebastian Doyle]

56. Right.

Because criminals and psychopaths who could never pass a background check and buy a gun from a legal dealer NEVER go to gun shows, do they? Why, they must all get their weapons from the Magical Gun Fairy!

[Statistical]

62. Or they get them from the estimated 40 - 80 million illegal/street guns.

At least that is what the DOJ under Clinton concluded.

Largest source of felons obtaining a firearm is family or friend. Second largest is illegal/street guns. Combined they made up over 80% of all guns in the hands of felons.

Gunshows made up <1%.

Of course stats aren't as cool as emotional outbursts.

[hack89]

76. What gun show loophole are you referring to? nt

[rd_kent]

12. And your point is?

Perhaps if we ban gyms, tragedies like this will never happen again.

[malaise]

19. I'm betting none of the people shot are related to you

Shoot away with your glock, AK47 or the latest killing machine. No need for mental evaluations either - kill away.

[anonymous171]

21. I like my killing machines. nt

[rd_kent]

29. Who determines who gets a mental evaluation?

Who performs it? Who can predict when a person will snap and use a legal item to commit an illegal act?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

31. I'm betting you couldn't care less about the victims either.

Otherwise it'd be hard to exploit their deaths for your pet political agenda.

[spanone]

40. sweet

:sarcasm:

[SammyWinstonJack]

46. Seriesly?

:wow:

[malaise]

51. No comment

Kill kill kill

[csziggy]

20. Yeah - if all women are fat and out of shape, men wouldn't got nuts over them!

That works. :sarcasm:

[reflection]

24. Outlaw celibacy. Vote mandatory sex for lonely people!

Everything seems better post-coitus. The government needs to license and pair up lonely males/females for supervised mating. Call it "Cash for Humpers".

[Sebastian Doyle]

67. No sex since 1990??

Geezus.... and I thought my "dry spell" was bad! :wow:

[TheMightyFavog]

85. You may have a point there...

A well-laid population is a happy population.

:thumbsup:

[reflection]

87. Works wonders for me.

The last thing I want to do after enjoying the company of my wife is shoot something. I usually just want to :boring:

[Statistical]

25. What makes a glock different than any other firearm? What does tha have to do with Rendell?

[ProgressiveProfessor]

34. Not sure you will get a coherent answer from the OP

The posts have been all over the map

[Captain Hilts]

44. Handguns have no place in our society. nt

[Statistical]

54. I disagree but that is at least coherent instead of putting Glock is a magical class w/ Rendell.

Of course banning all handguns would require a repeal of the 2nd.

“The handgun ban amounts to a prohibition of an entire class of ‘arms’ that is overwhelmingly chosen by American society for that lawful purpose. The prohibition extends, moreover, to the home, where the need for defense of self, family, and property is most acute. Under any of the standards of scrutiny that we have applied to enumerated constitutional rights, banning from the home ‘the most preferred firearm in the nation to ‘keep’ and use for protection of one’s home and family,’ would fail constitutional muster.” District of Columbia v. Heller (2008).

[Captain Hilts]

74. I'm pro-rifle. nt

[WildEyedLiberal]

83. But that's like saying the First Amendment only applies to bound books and pamphlets

And not the internet or cell phones.

[Orsino]

41. We might also take a moment...

...to advocate for mental health care as a right.

edit: ...and a duty.

[Statistical]

45. +1. That is the best way to stop/reduce mass shootings.

* Reduced poverty
* Ending war on drugs
* Removing non-violent offenders from prison to substantially increase time served by repeat violent offenders
* Improved mental health system
* Improved Education
* Opportunity for prosperity

All that would substantially reduce the root cause of violent crime.

In this particular instance the only thing applicable is mental health but I think all of them need to be part of a comprehensive plan.

Of course a plan like this would be hard, expensive, and take long time. It is much easier to chant about guns.

[Orsino]

80. It's also the most complicated.

Not implementing universal health care, that is, but the complex, tedious work of encouraging the seeking of treatment, one person at a time, and of diagnosing illnesses. Creating a society that doesn't glorify violence or prize the setting of citizens against each other.

Labeling guns as the problem is so simplistic that we should be immediately suspicious of it. We must never forget the hard work of getting along with our fellow travelers, giving a hand up when possible, and watching for warning signs. I am not entirely opposed to restricting gun ownership, but guns don't give warning signs. By the time a gun is wielded, it's too late to do anything but react. I'd like us to plan for a world in which guns coexist with mental illness.

[malaise]

48. I'm with you on this one n/t

[depakid]

63. Who wouldn't be?

Trouble is- it's only a rationalization for an obsession with firearms.

[LaurenG]

55. + 1,000,000,000 - Smartest point on the entire thread

:thumbsup:

[Greyhound]

75. Are you mad?

Well if you are, you're out of luck.

"No care for you!"



Isn't it amazing how the obvious and simple solutions are always ignored while they scream for the one "solution" guaranteed to fail?

Prohibition doesn't work, never has, never will.

[Cheap_Trick]

43. But at least his right to own a gun was in no way impeded.

THAT'S what is most important.

[malaise]

47. And that's all that matters

no matter how many people are killed. :sarcasm:

[Rebubula]

49. Killing Machines....LOVE IT

That has to be the best hyperbole of the day.

There are TENS OF MILLIONS of gun owners in this country and 99% (yes...making numbers up) never fire them outside the range.

I currently own 2 shotguns, a rifle and 3 handguns (2 of them are Mrs. Rebubula's). I have never felt a need to shoot anyone and they have never been anywhere but my gun safe and the firing range.

But feel free to demonize an inanimate object...

[spanone]

52. amazing that those inanimate objects kill so many people.

[atreides1]

77. Really?

So do you have on video where an inanimate object kills someone? I mean without an actual human having any control over it?

You don't like guns, you don't have to own one. But just like the NRA tries shoving their beliefs about guns down everyone's throats so do the anti-gun groups, what makes them different? Both groups use statistics and numbers to make their points, both have their own spin doctors, both think that they are right and the other is wrong.

I believe that the current gun laws are not being enforced, and that is the responsibility of local, state, and federal law enforcement. Get on their asses and make them enforce the laws, you don't like the laws of your state, start going after legislators to get them changed.

As for me, I'm keeping my Ruger 9mm.

[malaise]

69. These weapons were banned up to 2004

Who needs assault weapons?

[Statistical]

71. You are aware no "assault weapons" were used in this crime.

No model of Glock handguns has ever been banned in the United States.

Not in 2004, not ever.

[malaise]

93. Then you didn't hear the Commissioner at the Press

Conference.
Rendell said glock - he said 9mm banned up to 2004.

[fuzzy britches]

99. Rendell is a lying fuckwad

it's just that simple
\

[Rebubula]

101. That is..

...simply wrong.

I have legally owned a 9mm Glock for almost 15 years now.

[Statistical]

106. I purchased a Glock 17 (9mm full frame) in 1996.

The production of NEW standard capacity magazines greater than 10 rounds was prohibited under the AWB.

Once again the Glock pistol was never illegal not in 2004, not for a single day, not ever.

Even when new magazines were banned (1994-2004) existing magazines of which there were millions remained legal.

Learn the facts for yourself. The text of AWB is available. Summaries are available via wikipedia and others.

Don't just parrot half truths by other people.

[derby378]

103. That's one way to take yourself out of this debate

All of a sudden, every gun in private hands is now an "assault weapon." Dude, weak.

[Renew Deal]

59. Maybe a history, but apparently not a record.

Lone gunmen are always tough to detect.

[Heidi]

72. But when the new mind-reading and gun-cloaking technology are perfected,

we'll all be safe. :tinfoilhat:

Nothing against you, but our resources are best spent on safe, sane firearms regulation and free, absolutely confidential mental health services. After all, our former president managed to spur the deaths of many, many people both American and foreign without ever directly abusing the Second Amendment in any way.

[Renew Deal]

84. What do I have to do with this?

I think we agree. There was no way that I have heard so far for the system to know this guy had issues.

[Heidi]

86. That's why I said, "Nothing againt you."

We do agree. I have to say, though, that I'm sad that the situation ended as it did. By all accounts, the gunman was a bright enough guy but bright doesn't mitigate profound pain or anger. It's frustrating (understatement, obviously) that no one picked up on this guy's anger to any result that might have saved lives. :-(

[spanone]

70. NRA Targets Obama

It falsely claims in mailers and TV ads that Obama plans to ban handguns, hunting ammo and use of a gun for home defense.
Summary
A National Rifle Association advertising campaign distorts Obama's position on gun control beyond recognition.

The NRA is circulating printed material and running TV ads making unsubstantiated claims that Obama plans to ban use of firearms for home defense, ban possession and manufacture of handguns, close 90 percent of gun shops and ban hunting ammunition.

Much of what the NRA passes off as Obama's "10 Point Plan to 'Change' the Second Amendment" is actually contrary to what he has said throughout his campaign: that he "respects the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms" and "will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns."

The NRA, however, simply dismisses Obama's stated position as "rhetoric" and substitutes its own interpretation of his record as a secret "plan." Said an NRA spokesman: "We believe our facts."
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html

[LostInAnomie]

78. But, the guns weren't harmed, right!?

Thank God! We need to get those back out on the street then.

[dugaresa]

88. reading his blog, he could have ended up a serial killer who didn't use guns

the man was clearly disturbed, and after reading more articles, even his neighbors described him as "a bit off"

[RamboLiberal]

90. Allegheny County police superintendent Charles Moffatt

was going off on the mags during his news conference wrongly inferring they were illegal during AWB. Wrong - pre-bans were still legal and plenty of 30 rounders existed though they were pricey thanks to the ban.

Said 3 of the guns were legally purchased and that the killer had a concealed weapons permit.

[RamboLiberal]

92. So what and btw Glock is not a US company

Blame the Austrians for selling those "evil" Glocks to gun owners in the US. BTW those "evil" Glocks are also used by a large number of police departments!

[Obamanaut]

96. Oh lord. Now you're gonna get them started on rogue cops carrying

'evil' glocks.

I'll just stick with my revolvers.

[Xicano]

100. I heard dildos are banned in Texas

Well......that's a start I guess.

LOL :+