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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 12:38 PM Original message |
Elderly man resisting eviction shot by Detroit police |
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ShamelessHussy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. This rises way above stupidly... this over the top use of violence needs to stop. |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
60. Were it not blasphemous, I would scream out :J***s f*****g C****t |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. it takes a real hero to shoot an unarmed senile a dozen times |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. Ownership society |
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FreeJG (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. Another way to get low income people off the waterfront, ala Katrina! |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. This is why the police and the Government exist. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
6. Christ, just wait him out |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
33. In a decent society there would not even be a consideration |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
58. Good post n/t |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
62. You speak the truth. -nt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:53 AM Response to Reply #33 |
64. Thank you. That's really the issue, why is a 78-year-old getting evicted anyway? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
7. wsws is not a credible source. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
32. I find it more credible than the New York Times |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. May be true or not true. If it's reported in WSWS, there's no way to tell b/c it's not credible |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Ah, turns out it's technically true. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. you're the one with poor reporting skills. the wsws article doesn't say he was unarmed. in fact: |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. "It takes a real hero to shoot an unarmed senile a dozen times." |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I didn't make the statement, so not sure what your point is. Maybe to disguise your own misreporting |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Yet you take issue with my reply, but not with the guy who actually got it wrong. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. The article didn't get it wrong. Your comment was made in response to hampton's obligatory |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. 1. I never claimed the article got it wrong. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
51. If you had read the article, you'd see they made a note of the police mentioning he was armed. |
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Cal Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Do you have any examples of their 'complete fabrications'? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. Just stick around. Hannah posts a WSWS complete fabrication every other day or so... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. yep, just to bug *you,* hampton, & elicit your jerked knee. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. It'd be more effective if you didn't stick your foot in your mouth in the process. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. look who's talking; miss cordiality. just sayin' |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Oh, I never claimed to be cordial. |
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Cal Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. I've read a lot of wsws stuff about Detroit |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. As I mentioned upthread, they said the UAW were criminals. |
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Cal Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. No, upthread you said the USW |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Sorry, it was the Steel Workers. No I don't have a link. Do a search, it was about 2 weeks ago. nt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:46 AM Response to Reply #55 |
63. it's you who's fabricating. which is why you have no link. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. This appears to be |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Obama's health plan is to kill old people... |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
13. im not seeing if he was armed or not, if so then it casts a totally different complexion |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. The police say he was. Easy to know once he's in custody, but no |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. However, do you really believe 100 police & helicopters are required for an eviction? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. which came first? & other than the police, who else claims the man was |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I'm pretty sure it's not SOP for the SWAT to serve evictions. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. they weren't serving an eviction. they were evicting, i.e. removing the man. |
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wininboy (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
49. Since when are evictions a criminal matter? |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. the sheriffs dept who do the evictions are the police and in many places have more power and authori |
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wininboy (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. The Sherriffs' Office and the Police Dept are different organization AFAIK |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. oops you miscontrued what i meant, the sheriffs dept is law enforcement |
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wininboy (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. OK |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. yup ive done a few evictions were people start brandishing and very quickly it turns into the alamo |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
24. That's my childhood neighborhood |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Very very sad |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
26. Strangely some people think expanding cop arsenals to include automatic weapons is a good idea. n/t |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. well seeing as the bad guys have automatic weapons, i see allowing the popo to have them |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. "bad guys" virtually never have automatic weapons except in the movies. n/t |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. yeah okay, try working the road and coming across said bad guys |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. No problem with cops having rifles or shotguns or scopes or tazers. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
46. They did that because the cops were being out gunned by |
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Mosby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
28. I wonder how much the Detroit authorities spent on this "operation" |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Well, it did say they tried tear gas first, that's non-lethal. |
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Mosby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. that's true, they did try tear gas |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
42. This is another casualty of the drug war (really).. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
44. Hooray for our law enforcement officials! |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. thank you...... oh you were being sarcastic |
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Pharlo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
47. When they refer to 'tear gas cannisters', would 'flash bangs' |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 04:00 AM Response to Reply #47 |
65. Tear gas is meant to draw out. Flash bang is meant to distract while the officers enter. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
48. K&R for bringing out the "authoritarian brigade". |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. I don't think most are saying the police were justified, just that there's no way of telling |
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