I fired someone today and he threatened to have a hitman kill me.

[Th1onein]

Geez.

[Skink]

Did he call you a scumbag or anything?

[Curtland1015]

1. What's he gonna pay the hitman with, you just fired his ass!

Unless he gets one of those cheap Wal*Mart assassins. But they aren't all that reliable.

[Th1onein]

3. I filed charges against him.

I don't like that kind of shit.

[Poll_Blind]

9. Good. Not just good- mandatory. If he pulled that with you, I guarantee....

...he's pulled it on a lot of people, many of which were more "defenseless" situations than yourself.

So much of this shit really does "slide" in life, and I'm glad you didn't let it get past you. It's almost never easy to do the right thing, but I'm glad you did.

PB

[RB TexLa]

16. Mandatory? Reporting a threat or crime is not mandatory.

[Maru Kitteh]

18. In some states, it most certainly is. A simple Google search will tell you which ones.

[RB TexLa]

20. The only time you are ever going to get charged with not reporting a crime

is if you are involved in committing the crime. No one can force you to report either a threat or crime to anyone.

[Maru Kitteh]

28. That is not what you posted. You erroneously stated that reporting was not mandatory.

In many cases, it is.

You have been told this before of course, and I'm quite sure you intend to turn this into one of your famously obtuse sub-threads pretending innocent incomprehension, but you will find no purchase with me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=529387

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

29. lulz

"I don't drink with you."

[RB TexLa]

32. Yes, I know if I had disobeyed your order to drink you'd have kicked me out of your house.

same question to you as the the poster above you.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

33. I don't forget with you.

[RB TexLa]

31. No one has authority to mandate someone report a threat or crime

I guess if you think you or whoever can mandate others do so, keep thinking that. But you can't. And I found out after that thread, no one is ever required to report anything to law enforcement.

And really, just how f*#ked in the head does one have to be to remember an internet discussion from that long ago?

[paulsby]

42. you are wrong

generally speaking, a VICTIM never has a duty to report a crime.

but in some jurisdictions, a witness to a felony , who does not report it, can be charged with misprision of a felony.

this is not true in most jurisdictions

hth

[ecstatic]

70. OK. That was hilarious! nt

`

[krispos42]

39. Not true

Pittsburgh (Pittsburg?) and Philidelphia have passed laws that you have to report to the police that your guns are stolen within 24 hours of discovering them missing, otherwise you're guilty of a crime.

The NRA appealed the law and lost.

[Dan]

73. hope this helps

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/4.html

[tabasco]

76. "conceals AND fails to report"

That law does not mandate that an otherwise uninvolved person report a felony.

Hope it helps.

[Peacetrain]

107. Wrong...

http://www.uni.edu/cdc/files/manditorychildabuse.pdf

[dixiegrrrrl]

13. Glad you did that.

Was he or will be arrested?

[Th1onein]

61. I have no idea.

He just called again, this morning, and gave me a date for my "execution."

I had to force the cops to take a report. Jeez.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

17. Good -

that shit needs to be nipped in the bud.

Dumb fuck, saying something like that to you.

In any event, as stupid as he is, you watch yourself.

Stupidity knows no boundaries................................

[madokie]

44. I like you for that

I liked you anyway and I really like that you put boot to pavement, so to say. :woohoo:

[Th1onein]

62. Thanks, Madokie.

It's nice to be liked. You know, this kind of thing puts stress on you. I hate dealing with cops and I think life is hard enough, without calling in trouble for people, especially someone who just lost their job. I don't believe in kicking someone when they're down. Sometimes, they give you no choice, though.

[arthritisR_US]

96. good! he should be charged with uttering a threat. n/t

[joey5150]

8. insert

lead paint chip joke here.

[proteus_lives]

22. Yeah, those cheap Chinese ones?

They fall apart the minute you take them out of the box! ;-)

[mth44sc]

2. Only had to do that twice

never a fun time. Should have told them the reason ya fired 'em was cause they always had to get someone else to do their work for them ...

[wroberts189]

4. report it to the police asap. nt

[wroberts189]

5. did not see post 3 ..nevermind.

[RB TexLa]

6. He does know that he has to pay a hitman more than you will pay them to kill him, right?

[lame54]

50. will all the layoffs it's actually a buyers market

[doc03]

7. Hitman looking for work

call 1-800-hit-4you

[southerncrone]

10. Another result of Neoconomics.

Besides turning us into serfs, they also get population control. What a bonus! :sarcasm:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

23. You bring up a good point. Fuck the ninjas.

Hire a necromancer.

[SpookyCat]

65. ...blows kiss for Venture Bros reference...nt

[lpbk2713]

11. Not funny I know but ...

I think he's been busy. :eyes:

[Initech]

12. I want to start my own business but I could never be in the hiring/firing position.

:yoiks:

[Warpy]

14. I've had to do both, one reason I always hated management

The best way to get me to quit a job was to make me the manager.

[devilgrrl]

34. That's why I've never bothered to pursue a position in management...

bossing people around... not my thing.

[Th1onein]

46. You're looking at it the wrong way.

You're seeing to it that a job gets done; that something that needs to be accomplished DOES get accomplished. After having been "bossed" around for years, you figure out that there's a better way to do it. You begin to see that your job as manager is not bossing people around, but helping people to grow in their abilities and their accomplishments; teaching them and encouraging them, and being the conduit for them so that they see that they CAN do things that they never thought that they could do before. Kindness is a part of being the boss. I don't think that you can be a good boss if you are not kind and respectful. To me, being a "boss" is being a teacher; getting the best from people that work for you. Bringing them UP, not down.

And, yes, sometimes you have to fire people. But, believe me, by the time that I fire someone, it's because they absolutely need to go. And, unless they threaten to have me killed, I usually try to find them another job. And, often do.

On edit, I forgot to tell you something: If you are the "boss" or the manager, you are in a unique position to be a very positive force in someone's life. It's an opportunity to do good things for your fellow man. That's the way I look at it.

People who look at being the boss as gaining power over others are the wrong people for the position. They usually don't hold the position for very long because they aren't good managers of people. And people are resources.

[devilgrrl]

71. I have had many wonderful bosses that carried themselves just as you described...

then there are the ones that are utter tyrants - who wants to be like that? I guess that is why I don't desire a position in management.

You sound like a great boss to have - I'm sorry about this nut you have to deal with. :toast:

[jmm]

74. Sometimes bosses have to make tough decisions for the best of everybody.

I turned down the first supervisory position I was offered and ended up quitting that job because they refused to fire and said they wouldn't let me fire a man. He had stolen personal info about the employees and made innapropriate sexual and threatening comments about a coworker and I. While I hate to think I could play a part in somebody being unemployed the well being of everyone in the company needs to be considered. When a person is fired for the right reasons they are responsible, not those who deliver the news.

Later when became a boss at another company I was happy to have the opportunity to guide staff but when I came across people who were toxic to the work environment I realized all aspects of the job would suffer if they were kept around.

[Hekate]

83. God love you for that description of "bosshood", Th1onein. Whenever I supervised, I tried to be...

... that way. There are good ways and bad ways to do any job, including management jobs. For many of us it's too stressful to be the one writing annual performance reviews and the like, but we still do our best by our people as long as it's our job to do so. For me, I went on to other things, but I didn't forget.

And you stay safe. You might start screening your calls with your answering machine and otherwise recording this jerk's messages. That's really scary. :hug:

Hekate

[Th1onein]

91. Thanks, Hekate.

You know, it sounds corny, but I love my people. They depend on me, and I like to take good care of them.

Life is hard and everyone that walks this earth has their burdens. I like to think that I help a little bit with those burdens. I treat the people who work for me with love and compassion, as I would my family. They USUALLY pay me back with loyalty and hard work. Every once in a while you get someone that, really, just has a more heavy burden than others, like this guy that I started this post about. I am so, so sorry for him.

[Naturyl]

86. Speak foryourself and/or everyone but me.

Personally I am not a "resource." Just saying.

[Th1onein]

94. That was probably not a good way to put it.

But everyone in a business is a resource. Their job is to be a resource. What they put out; their work, is their resource. Of course, some people don't do any work, and are therefore not a resource for it, so you very well might be right about not being a resource.

[northernlights]

109. um, you wouldn't happen to be hiring now, would you?

I can do a lot of different things.

Never been a bodyguard, but I'm a quick study!

[raccoon]

113. Sounds like you'd make a good boss.

However, I respectfully disagree with you here:

"People who look at being the boss as gaining power over others are the wrong people for the position. They usually don't hold the position for very long because they aren't good managers of people."

IME, there are lots of bullies who have held their jobs year in and your out. However, usually these bullies don't get fired; they get shuffled from dept. to dept....or from one workplace to another.

There was a library director I know of who was a real piece of work (to be polite). I didn't even work for the library and I knew of this man's poor management skills and butthead attitude. Did the public, taxpayer-funded library just fire him? Hell, no. Last I heard he got another highly paid position in another state.

If he'd been a peon, his ass would've been fired in a Tennessee minute.... :sigh:

edited to add: I'm glad you reported that person who threatened you.

[SmileyRose]

49. Being the boss is not about being bossy

A good boss, manager etc has a talent for looking at a person and seeing the potential, and then pulling out that potential to benefit both the business and that individual.

My first job at 15 was at a cafeteria that had a little kiosk attached open to the mall for drinks and snacks. Within 6 months the manager of that cafeteria had me "running the business" in that kiosk. I had total responsiblity for the running the profitability of that kiosk. Staffing, supplies, promotions. I was lucky to get that kind of boss straight off, and it set the tone my whole life of who I'm willing to work for.

I expect my boss to give me the tools, information and freedom to be a complete success at what I do. I expect collaboration and support to make the business money (or save it money). I expect to be given credit for my work, and I expect to make it known to those above my boss that he/she made my success possible. I also expect the freedom to improve my skills as much as a I can.

I don't care if it's fast food or brain surgery. People need to feel their god given talents are of use the world. A good boss knows how to pull that out of people and knows how to assemble a team that's right for whatever business it is.

[Th1onein]

53. THANK YOU for saying it better than I can!

Yes! Being a good boss means bringing out the best in people. It absolutely IS a collaborative effort.

I love being able to do good things for people; to see them grow and feel good about themselves and the job that they do. I do my best to inspire people; to teach them; to bring them up. I know that they've probably had assholes, in the past, for bosses, and I strive to be the best boss they've ever had. As corny as it sounds, I love the people that work for me, and it hurts me to have to fire someone. I do everything that I possibly can to avoid it.

[dysfunctional press]

19. my goal in life was to get to a point where i didn't have to have a boss, or be a boss...

permanent disability made my dreams come true. :woohoo:

[Th1onein]

43. You would do it if it was YOUR business.

You work your ass off building a business. You see it grow. You see someone come in and do shit that's hurting that business, you fire their asses. This guy was in my office, steadily stirring shit. First, he told my partner that he wouldn't work for our company if he had to work with me. That didn't work. This guy is a sexist mother fucker who thinks because he's a man he can step into my shoes, just because I'm a woman. He doesn't do his job and then he thinks he can come to me and tell me how to run my business. Not gonna happen.

Then, he starts shit with another of my employees. Threatening to punch her in the face. Fuck that. He's gone.

I don't like to fire people. I am very kind to most people when I have to let them go. I've supported people, financially, after firing them. (I STILL support a girl and her two kids, after I fired her three years ago.) But this is a business; it's purpose is to make money. And if not for that business, this guy wouldn't have had an income, in the first place. He was destroying the very thing that was supporting him.

What bothers me is filing charges against him. I don't like to do that. I HATE it. And I feel terrible about it. But this is not the first time he's threatened people. And, now, he's threatening me. I'm not going to put up with it.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

56. Sorry he threatened you but are you saying you have an opening?

I couldn't resist, I was laid off four months ago, have sent out hundreds (literally) of resumes and not a single call. It is so bad I read the obits to see if someone died after a brief illness and worked at _________ for extra leads. Seriously, it is rough out here.

That said, a disgruntled employee with a mean streak, an attitude and a couple of beers can cause all kinds of mayhem - take steps to ensure your and your employees safety from a guy who has show a propensity for violence.

[Th1onein]

63. Yeah, we have an opening.

We're down in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas, though.

We are covered up with business these days. I've opened THREE offices in three weeks. I don't even know how I did it; I just knew it needed to be done, and got it done. But, now, I'm exhausted.

And then there's this kind of shit to deal with. Good God.

[bkkyosemite]

15. Report it to the police right away!!!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

21. You should hire some ninjas.

[riderinthestorm]

24. Considering you believe anyone whose had an abortion should be charged with murder

color me unsympathetic.

[Th1onein]

47. What a nasty, stupid fucking thing to say to me.

Unbelievable.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

72. But is it true?

:nopity:

[Th1onein]

75. Is what true? That the previous poster is unsympathetic

to someone being the victim of a death threat simply because they disagree with that person's views on abortion? Yeah, that's true.

Or do you want to know if I am against abortion because I believe it is murder? Yeah, that's true, too.

I'm against the death penalty for the same reason. And war. And euthanasia. All forms of killing human life. Yeah, I'm against all of those, for one reason: I am against killing.

Am I all for the killing of doctors who perform late term abortions? Hell no. Am I against birth control? Hell no.

But, yes; I believe that life begins at conception. And I am against the ending of a human life, for whatever reason, and by whatever means. And if you think that that justifies a lack of sympathy, or empathy, for someone who has had death threats leveled against them, then things are just real fucked up, and so must you be, and so is anyone else who thinks that way.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

79. I'm reminded of a Reno 911 sketch.

Wherein a klan member catch his robes on fire while attempting to light a cross.

Burning to death is the worst thing ever, but damn if that isn't funny.

[Th1onein]

89. Oh, okay, so burning to death is funny.

And being unsympathetic to a person receiving death threats must be hilarious.

I've said before that I didn't think that it was possible to be rude,obnoxious, and without compassion, or decency and still be a liberal. I stand by that.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

90. Klan members burning to death is funny.

Schadenfreude.

I don't think pro-life whackadoodles are in any position to judge liberalism, or anything else.

[Th1onein]

97. No. No one burning to death is funny.

I might be pro-life, but I am far from being a whackadoodle. And I am in a position to be the judge of any mother fucking thing I want to be the judge of.

You know, to demonize someone who thinks differently from you is just what the corporatists of this country, of this world, want you to do. They want to keep us apart; that's why they use those wedge issues, such as abortion. They don't give a shit about abortion. They don't give a shit about life, period. Their bottom line is the dollar. Most liberals know that.

Apparently, you forgot.

[REP]

98. I couldn't agree more

I've said before that I didn't think that it was possible to be rude,obnoxious, and without compassion, or decency and still be a liberal. I stand by that.

Of course, when you typed that, you didn't realize you were being unintentionally ironic. You won't, either, even after calling more people "fucking stupid" and other swell things. Maybe "murderer" if you think they've had an abortion.

[noamnety]

99. I thought that was a funny line coming from him as well.

I've said before that I didn't think that it was possible to be rude,obnoxious, and without compassion, or decency and still be a liberal.

Coming from someone who's stated that a woman who has been raped should be forced to carry any resulting pregnancies to term, it's more than a little odd. Not a lot of compassion for victims of actual crimes that have already taken place.

Ah well, all the same, I appreciate that the OP filed charges and I hope the guy who made it is locked away for a long time. I'd probably call the phone company and request to have calls to the home and office monitored for evidence, and if it's in a state where it's legal, I'd record any calls from him as well.

[Th1onein]

101. I am the OP.

And, as far as carrying the child of a rapist, I think that the child is the innocent one in all of it. Why should that child lose his or her life because of what her father did?

I value human life. Period. And I think that it begins at conception. It does not automatically follow that I have no compassion for those who have been raped. I do.

Your demonization of those who disagree with you does nothing for your cause.

[REP]

102. Again with unintentional irony

Your demonization of those who disagree with you does nothing for your cause

... and yet you persist in calling those who disagree with you "corparatist" and "fucking stupid," and even "murderers." Didn't you think anyone would notice?

[Name removed]

108. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[noamnety]

103. ahahahaha

"And, as far as carrying the child of a rapist, I think that the child is the innocent one in all of it."

"the innocent ONE?"

Is the rape victim presumed to be guilty?

[REP]

105. High irony diet

"...the innocent one in all of it. "

Didn't she say something about "demonizing"? I guess implying a rape victim is somehow not innocent "in all if it" is different when she does it.

[TorchTheWitch]

100. +1

precisely what I was thinking.

:thumbsup:

[bertman]

25. Sorry to hear that, Th1onein. I'm glad you reported it to the police.

Here's my threatened-by-an-employee story: Many years ago after I gave an employee a written warning, he got so mad that he started ranting and raving and said that he was going to pull my head off. Then I suspended him for threatening me and issued him a final warning. After he calmed down and came back to work, he was an excellent employee from that day forward.

Sometimes people say some really stupid things in the heat of the moment. Unfortunately, there are enough stories of the ones who carried out those threats that it's always wise to be safe.

I hope your story has a happy ending.

[Gman]

26. DId you have just cause?

in other words, a good reason connected with the work to fire this person?

[riderinthestorm]

27. But delivery matters. If a firing is done badly, it can really go to hell.

Considering this person's hardline position on anyone even having an abortion, I wonder about the delivery, let alone the reasons why the employee was fired.

[REP]

36. Considering the source of this story, I wonder what actually happened

The OP has a loose grasp on what is and isn't murder; we have only her telling of the story to go on.

[Th1onein]

52. Considering the source of this story? Huh?

Someone out and out says, "I'm sending a hitman to kill your ass," and that isn't a threat, huh?

What difference does my stand on abortion have to do with this?

I wrote in here because I wanted to get others' take on this situation, and I'm met with this kind of bullshit? What a joke.

I don't have a "loose grasp" on what is and isn't murder; I simply disagree with you on when a human life begins.

Please, put me on ignore and don't bother to butt into my posts anymore.

[blondeatlast]

78. I thought the OP's MO

sounded strangely familiar.

[Th1onein]

51. He threatened to punch another girl in the office in the face.

And, lately, there's been MAJOR dissension in that office. I didn't know where it was coming from. There were two people involved. Constant upheaval. Always the same two people.

This guy was made a manager for a very short while at that office. And he did a shitty job. The power went straight to his head. After turning in one of the worst reports I've ever seen, instead of listening to me about how he could improve, he started telling me how I should change my way of doing business. To me, first you learn your job, and you learn to do it well, and THEN you can start trying to change things. You don't first fuck everything up and then try to change things so that they fit your fuck up. Anyway, I demoted him. He just couldn't handle the higher position.

After that, things started to go downhill in that office. He couldn't get along with the new manager and was always the center of a shitstorm. So....I listened and watched, for several months, and I finally found out what was going on. He was sabotaging my new manager. I caught him flat out, red-handed. Instead of admitting what he did, which might have bought him some more time, he lied and lied and lied about it. And, the topper was when he threatened to punch this girl in the face.

That was it for me.

[Gman]

60. Sounds like very just cause for termination

Of course, I'm sure he has a totally different story. But I don't see how it could possibly mitigate anything about why you had to fire him. I would have done the same thing. In fact, you were probably more patient than I would have been.

[davsand]

66. A lot of times it falls on management to protect ALL the employees' interests.

Based on that post, it is sounding like you were faced with a bad situation with limited choices to resolve it. Once you've been in management for a while you hit the realization that there ARE gonna be times where everything you have tried to do to help an employee excel just didn't work. It sucks, but it is an occasional reality.

After you hit that pivotal point with an employee, you have to start looking at it all as a matter of protecting your organization from further stress/drama and harm. The LAST thing you need is for the bad employee to make that work environment painful/distasteful enough that your good people don't want to show up to work anymore because they are fed up with the one lone screw-up.

I always placed a very high premium on a congenial and productive workplace. Anyone that regularly threatened that peace and couldn't be rehabbed was removed from the situation. Period.

I know that there are some on here that will be happy to lob rocks at me for being willing to hire and fire, but I honestly have to ask, Have YOU ever worked in a place where there was ONE person who was a horrible fuck up that had a terrible attitude? Did you ever feel resentment that the management let that fuck up go on making everybody miserable?

THAT is what I am talking about.

A "bad" employee is kind of like a cancer--and they can make the entire workplace sick to the point of "death" if they are allowed to stay. Sounds to me that if the guy in the OP was at the point he was issuing threats in the workplace he really is beyond redemption and needs to go someplace else where maybe he'll be happier.

As for threatening me personally, my personal feeling is that armed and liberal is not a bad way to be. I make no secret of my attitudes, either. I got threatened one time by a temp I had laid off, and my response was to tell him if he was feeling froggy he should jump. He was the unemployed punk asshole, not me.

I never saw or heard one thing from him again.



Laura

[Naturyl]

85. Yeah, because "unemployed" goes naturally with "punk asshole."

Whoops, you outed your true feelings...

[davsand]

87. Nah, the term "Punk Asshole" gets applied to anybody that issues threats in the course of business.

My TRUE feelings in that situation were considerably more evil than "unemployed punk asshole" would indicate.

I'd put up with his bullshit for too long already, and his presence in the workplace had become more pain than benefit. The final capper came when he threatened the head of my receiving department--the woman he'd been hired to assist--his direct supervisor. She was a hard worker, knew her business, and was worth a hell of a lot more to my operation than any snot nosed, punk, "gangsta wanna-be," bully of a temp worker.

My "true" feelings in that particular situation were kinda like I'd lanced a boil on my ass if you want the absolute truth. He turned himself into the unemployed punk asshole by acting like a swaggering fool issuing public threats in the workplace.

I have ZERO tolerance for anybody that threatens any employee in my charge. Period. If you can't see how that is important then this conversation needs to be done as of now.


Laura

[AspenRose]

88. Clearly has anger management issues..

Yikes :wow:

[TankLV]

106. Yes - the OP certainly does...

and we should believe this ANONYMOUS wack job, why?

sorry, but I smell bullshit...

[REP]

110. You and me both

[Posteritatis]

59. If he threatened to kill his boss, I'm assuming there were problems (nt)

[MilesColtrane]

30. I think I'd buy one of those telescoping mirror thingies for looking under my car...

...if I were you.

Jesus.

Good luck.

[ashling]

35. When I workedas an unemployment interviewer some 30 years ago

I remember one claimant was denied unemployment even though he was let go. It happened that he was fired because he shot his supervisor.

[Th1onein]

54. LOLOLOLOL!

Thank you for the laugh. I'm surprised he had the nerve to apply for unemployment!

[ashling]

58. Honesty is not always the best policy

There was an applicant who applied with the Houston Police Department who got through the physical testing and then took the lie detector test that all applicants got. One of the questions (I know, I took it) was "have you ever stolen anything?"

The guy answered that he and a friend had robbed a convenience store the week before.

[SmileyRose]

81. OK -- I laughed.

Shameful, but there you have it.

[old mark]

37. Well, he can't afford a hitman now.

Why did you fire him, you motherfucker?



mark

[Th1onein]

55. A number of reasons.....but the kicker was his threatening to punch a co-worker in the face.

I MIGHT have given him another chance, even with what I caught him at, but the threat to punch a co-worker was the straw that broke the camel's back.

What really is bothering me now is that I filed charges against him for his threat to me. I know that that's probably the right thing to do, but I hate doing that knowing that he doesn't have a job. It just really bugs the shit out of me.

[and-justice-for-all]

38. Why do you hate Amerikastan? nt

:sarcasm:

[1]

40. wow. i was taught o be "nice" in any exit interview. never to burn bridges. quaint, eh?

seriously though, i'm glad you reported this ahole.

but i wouldn't lose any sleep over this. little men make idle threats. you will be fine.

[WonderGrunion]

41. Bret Hart isn't that active since his stroke.

Don't worry. The "Excellence of Execution" won't be knocking on your door anytime soon. :silly:

[slackmaster]

45. Cool story, bro'

[Syntheto]

48. Why don't you invite him to post here with a beer?

...I'm sure he has a story to tell.

[peekaloo]

57. He sounds like a dumb ass.

waits until his firing to show any initiative.

[Th1onein]

64. LOLOL!

He was actually pretty good at his job; if you don't count the time we tried him out in management. He didn't do well at that. Wrong personality for the job.

And I didn't want to fire him, but sometimes a person just goes too far.

He's got a drinking problem, I'm pretty sure. What he did was get his check early, on Thursday, create a stink in the office, and then left, cashed his check, got drunk, and starting calling people at the office threatening them, and generally just creating a stink. And was in the process of creating a situation where he felt (drunkenly) that he didn't have to come in in the morning, because after threatening to punch a girl there in the face, he felt that if he did come in the next morning, he WOULD punch her in the face. That was his excuse for not coming to work the next day, after his histrionics the day before. I think that, what it all boils down to, is that he wanted to pull a drunk, create an excuse for not coming in to work, and got caught in his own web.

I don't tell people what to do on their own time; they can drink themselves into oblivion. It's none of my business. But when they bring that shit into my business, I will get rid of them.

[angelshare2]

67. You should have done it on a friday!

Less chance of an incident.

[REP]

68. That's unbelievable

Really. Unbelievable.

[ecstatic]

69. Make sure he no longer has access to the property

and that everyone knows how dangerous he is.

[Th1onein]

77. Update: Now he's threatening to kill two of us.

Me, who he called this morning and gave me a date for my "execution," (it will be this Tuesday, for those of you who are interested) and the girl he earlier threatened to punch in the face, who he called this afternoon. He told her, on her voicemail, of all things, that she needs to move out of her apartment, because he knows where she lives and he's coming to kill her.

I don't feel so bad, now, about filing charges against this idiot.

[gleaner]

80. You should not..

feel bad about it. He sounds half crazy and very vengeful. With all the shootings in various work places, you did the right thing. He could just as easily be someone who shoots off his mouth with no intention of following through, but it is better to err on the side of caution.

I had a supervisory position once. I didn't like it much, but my boss more or less told me she expected me to do it. If you wanted to work there, you did not offend her. I had to fire people three times. Each time with another supervisor present. Usually all we got was tears or stomping out in a huff. Still, it wasn't anything I felt good about doing. The last time the employee being fired sat quietly for a moment, then leaped across the table and tried to rearrange my nose with a desk calendar. Fortunately, I ducked and she missed. Personnel came over and had security escort her out. I told my boss my firing days were over, and she let me do her reports for her instead. It was more work, but I was a lot happier.

[susanr516]

82. Sounds like he's not calming down

:scared:

In addition to filing charges, have y'all gotten restraining orders against him? I'm neither a lawyer nor in law enforcement, but it seems like that might be not be a bad idea. I'd do it for both of your homes and all your office locations.

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[Joanne98]

93. Man!

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

115. I hope he's not going to go Postal!

[zonkers]

92. Just have your consigliere sit down with his consigliere and the families will straigten it out.

[arthritisR_US]

95. he should be charged with uttering a threat, it's a serious charge. n/t

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[LeftyMom]

111. Start a blog, would you?

This doesn't belong in GD.

[BlooInBloo]

112. Fire because he sucked? Or more like laid off?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

114. i sincerely doubt that there is any element of truth to this story.

[Th1onein]

116. Whatever.

I guess I'm going to write in some bullshit about one of my employees threatening to send a hitman to kill me just for giggles and kicks.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

117. no, for the drama & attention. nt

[Th1onein]

119. Like I said, whatever.

You could say that about everyone who writes something here, about their own lives. I guess the lady who lost her leg was writing for drama and attention, right?

And Andy, and the people who were trying to help him, that was all for drama and attention, right?

Something stinks here, and it ain't me.

[ContraBass Black]

118. I take it, then, that he's not elligible for rehire?