Senate group omitting Dem health goals

[Deep13]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090727/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_overhaul

WASHINGTON – After weeks of secretive talks, a bipartisan group in the Senate edged closer Monday to a health care compromise that omits a requirement for businesses to offer coverage to their workers and lacks a government insurance option that President Barack Obama favors, according to numerous officials.
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If this becomes law, I will renounce the Democratic Party and become a socialist.

[obliviously]

1. I am afraid it will be worse than it is now.

They need to scrap it entirelly and start over!

[Deep13]

6. yes. nt

[Kablooie]

15. It will probably collapse and the Republican assholes will get the Waterloo they are pushing for.

Sorry to be so negative but I haven't heard ANY good news coming out about the health plan.

All I hear is that it is being gutted and more concessions are given to the private corporations.

Even Obama won't be able to keep this under control.

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and Americans will continue to die from lack of care.
That seems to be the way our country likes it.

[obliviously]

16. The publicans have no power

We have a few internal problems that need some fine tuning and then we can try again!

[Hugabear]

17. No, but the rethugs and their blue dog allies can make it almost impossible

Those blue dogs might as well be rethugs.

[obliviously]

18. Just got done

talking about this on another thread. We need to do some sorting at the ballot box!

[Cal33]

2. We know that there can be no real bi-partisanship possible with

the Neo-Conservatives. With them, it's either their way or the highway. Haven't we seen enough
of it with Bush? The Republican Party today is run by the Neo-Conservatives. The real old
Republicans have mostly departed or have been kicked out. Those remaining have little or
nothing to say.

I'm sure Obama knows that Neo-Conservatives don't compromise. The only thing they respect is
fear of punishment. They'll laugh at anything else. If you give them an inch they'll take a
mile. Is Obama biding his time, waiting for the right moment before he gets tough with them?
Or will he chicken out?

[Faryn Balyncd]

3. We need to DEFEAT any such CAPITULATION. Calling it a "compromise" is a LIE.

Any bill that lacks a public option is simply a fascist/corporatist/Republican plan dressed up as "reform", and deserves DEFEAT.




K & R

[Deep13]

5. Allowing corporate insurers to exist is already a compromise. nt

[Deep13]

4. My email letter to Sen. Brown (D-OH)

According to AP, there is a proposal in the Senate finance committee over which that Tory, Max Baucus, presides that will eliminate the public option for health care reform. Frankly, having the public option as an option is already far more of a compromise than most of us are willing to have.

If the Democratic party with a 58 vote majority in the Senate, a majority in the House and a Democrat in the White House cannot pass major reform to our antiquated system because of conflicts of interest and, frankly, cowardice, I WILL RENOUNCE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY and become an overt socialist. My wife (XXXXX XXXXX) and I gave Obama money for the general last year. We gave Hillary Clinton $$$ in the primary. I gave you the Federal maximum and XXXXX gave Strickland $5000 and $1000 each to Brunner and the woman who ran for treasurer. And we gave Kerry the Fed. maximum. If major health care reform fails, the bank will be closed.

2006 and 2008 were public demands for real, major change and we are not getting that. Strickland is exercising no leadership in Ohio and the Senate has betrayed us. Frankly, the Dem. brand name doesn't mean anything anymore.

Tell that jellyfish Reid to start acting like a leader. If you need to use reconcilliation to get this through, then do it. If Baucus stands in the way, replace him as chairman. And Washington is no place for sentimentality. Kennedy and Byrd must be replaced. And if the leadership won't budge, then forget the middle way and push for single-payer national coverage, which is the most efficient way to go anyhow. If they are worried about the money, then end the goddamn war and tax the rich through their property and trusts.

This angry comments are not directed at you so much as at the Senate leadership. This situation cannot be tolerated.

[bluethruandthru]

9. Great letter!

If we don't stand and fight (unfortunately our own representatives) on this issue...then what do we stand for at all?

[mzmolly]

7. IIRC, Obama said he will not sign a bill without a public

option.

[Deep13]

8. True, so maybe this is an effort to derail the whole process. nt

[mzmolly]

12. Could be? If so, we'll have to have a plan

B.

[Deep13]

13. Maybe some of our friends in Congress...

...can introduce a bill to end socialist, governmental health care for members of Congress.

[mzmolly]

14. Agreed. No health care for congress until "we the people" are afforded

the same!

[UrbScotty]

10. President Palin will thank you for renouncing the Dems.

[Deep13]

11. At this rate, I would rather lose for free than lose after supposedly winning. nt