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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:17 AM Original message |
A simple question: Did the cop know who was supposed to live in the house? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. Even if he did, what difference would that have made? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. How did he not allow it to end? |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. That may be 'THE' question; |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. The cop wouldn't leave |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Shhh, don't bring facts into the conversation... |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. those aren't facts, just one person's version of events |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Who's porch? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
64. Why didn't the cop keep walking? |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
77. Then, according to your logic, there are no facts. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. that's not the cop's side of the story |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
63. Name, not badge number |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
67. The cop contrived the arrest, which is why he had to get Gates to come outside. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. No |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I'm asking you how Gates didn't allow it to end. (nt) |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. He pursued the officers even as they were attempting to leave |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. So his crime was 'speaking while black on his porch"? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. No |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #20 |
29. So what was his crime? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. Here's why the charges were dropped |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. So let me get this straight. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. You're almost there, just try a little harder |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. so what is/are the very useful purposes |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 02:57 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. I can think of quite a few |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
37. He was attempting to get what they were by law required to give him, |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Is that so... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. He wrote into his report that he gave it numerous times. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
54. did he tackle or touch the officer or block his vehicle to keep him from going? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. He was arrested as soon as he stepped out onto his porch. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Nor did I claim he did |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. how is it he prevented them from going, then? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Are you a broken record? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. if he "didn't allow it to end," it implies he somehow prevented the officer from leaving. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Try reading either the police report or Gates own comments |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. you can't answer the question - because "didn't allow it to end" is bollocks. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Gates had the option of shutting the door |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. how did Mr Gates physically stop the officer? How's that smartass |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Yeah how dare Gates be upset and vocal about this? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Yes, how dare that cop actually do his job! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. It's not his job to harrass the public. nt |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. No, that's what cops do. They harrass people. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. It is true. That's why every police department has an office |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. It's all part of the smoke and mirrors |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. No, I don't believe that. And I have no reason to believe that. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Good for you brother! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. You never saw Serpico, did you? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. No wait, it's Sons of Anarchy |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #19 |
30. His job is to arrest people for being angry on their porch? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Yes, absolutely! Cops arrest people on their porch in front of witnesses for doing nothing |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. So what crime was it again that Gates committed? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. I'm not going to make any absolute statements regarding what happened |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. funny |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I've made statements about my certainty of the facts |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. he's also certain social security must go, he's a funny one, |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Hannah once claimed Obama had 3 testicles and Ted Kennedy was Neville Chamberlain's secret lover |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
75. careful |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. Why would he be upset that the police responded to a B&E call? n/t |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
53. He wasn't upset about that. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
26. That police officer has business cards that he carries around for a reason. |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yes and No, I'd say. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
7. Gates showed two IDs |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
8. Gates did not own the house - |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. The information was on his ID's |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Do you not understand that that wasn't the question? nt |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. I don't think that is true. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. The official (readily available and free) records are the |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
59. addresses available through standard police mv report. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
10. what difference does it make? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. You forgot (3) cop departs and leaves citizen alone in his house. nt. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #16 |
32. that was not something in Gates control |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. The porch is part of the house and the cop was supposedly |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
66. +1 |
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VOX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
76. Thank you!!!!!! n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
15. per the cops statement he knew gates belonged there and continued the process. everything after |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
21. What happened to secure in your own home? |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. I see now that you have an agenda and not a legitimate question. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
70. If the officer has a reasonable suspicion there was a crime |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
40. Yes. Gates had a right to be agitated, for the same reason we all would have been. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
55. on tv "demanding" an apology, eh? sounds like a put-up job. |
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