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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:24 AM Original message |
What's with the heavy police presence on US streets/HWYs? |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
1. They're not pulling over enough in most places. Maybe they're finally doing something in the area |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Nah... Now they're pulling people over for not wearing seatbelts... |
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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. They do that on base all the time |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:33 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Yeah... that makes sense... |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:41 AM Response to Reply #9 |
43. Well |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. If the law says wear a seat belt, then wear one. It's pretty simple. And, it keeps health care costs |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. That's not the point... |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Where I live, they cannot simply pull someone over for not wearing a seatbelt. So, that's not the |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Oh, it's definitely the issue here. |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. There's an easy solution for those who don't want to be pulled over. Wear the seatbelt.I have little |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Wait...so you're okay with them pulling someone over for not wearing a seat belt |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:04 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Read what I said. I don't think you can legitimately conclude what you did from what I said.I'm also |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You don't see the massive advertising campaigns for |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:32 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. How is that relevant?a)I don't see them (avoid main stream media at all costs)&B) I would interpret |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:03 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. They schedule special patrols especially for seatbelts... |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:07 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Now we're going in circles - my answer to that is #36. Let's end this! n/t |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:14 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. those special patrols do NOT come out of the police budget |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:48 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. "it keeps health care costs down" |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
42. just a minute, just a minute, just a minute |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:09 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Well, I wasn't among them... I hate that sneaky shit. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:15 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. yea, god forbid drivers |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:22 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Based upon what? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:26 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. it;'s called the "social contract" and spare me the nazi references |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:48 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Blah, blah, Privilege, blah blah... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:22 AM Response to Reply #60 |
69. does the word ad hominem mean anything to you |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:07 AM Response to Reply #58 |
67. I prefer Orwell references myself |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:36 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. rule of law matters |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:13 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. I don't like mandatory liability insurance either |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:27 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. many states don't require mandatory liability insurance |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:00 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. wer have the responsibility now that the safety gestapo has passed their laws |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:55 AM Response to Reply #64 |
81. i am telling you that as a bicyclist |
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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Every city needs income. Why not install more speed cameras? |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:33 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Do you have any idea how few gun battles on the side of the road |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Speed camera get destroyed here, just like in the UK and France |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. I'd be worried if there wasn't, to be honest... |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
2. My wife makes the comparison between German cops and American cops all the time... |
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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Europeans remember the heavy presence of German police/military |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Right, except that the tighter the controls they put on citizens here |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. How many people are left alive from that time frame who would remember that? |
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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. A lot. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
3. Tickets bring in money, if drugs are found they get the vehicle. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. In other words, a license to steal...n/t |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
63. And they get the drugs. Don't forget the drugs. |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
8. We have lower taxes and higher speeding tickets. |
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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. In the US it's an aggressive mindset, pitting police against citizen |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:37 AM Response to Reply #16 |
74. Miss any stereotypes there? |
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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Did I mention all their tattoos? |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:06 AM Response to Reply #16 |
80. Yes Americans can be aggressive |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
12. I got pulled over for the first time in sixteen years a week and a half ago |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Local cops, esp those in outlying areas tend to be much more reasonable |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
19. States and local governments need money |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
21. Because we have subtly become a police state. |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
27. Projecting much? |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Soldiers are different than civilians... |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:37 AM Response to Reply #31 |
78. That was my point I suppose... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
30. Reckless speeders kill people. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:04 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Oh, there are PLENTY of speed traps in the area |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:28 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. I regularly do 130mph on Oregon roads. I know speed. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:46 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. I-5 is long and mostly flat! |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:57 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. The midwest is flat. I-5 has lots of flat-ish stretches. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:04 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. If you're driving 10-20 miles an hour below the prevailing speed you're creating a hazard |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:11 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. I've never been on a PDX ->Eugene run without traffic. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:17 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. I just was last week |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:52 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. *sigh* |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
32. It's the economy - they are generating revenue because the |
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1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
33. tickets = money. and money is in short supply. do not speed. make sure your lights work.... |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
35. It's difficult to generalize, but a few points.. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
37. Revenue collection. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:36 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. You think speeding isn't a matter of public safety? |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:49 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. The way the police enforce the speed limits... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:58 AM Response to Reply #46 |
62. Example please. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
44. I have noticed that for a long time |
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SleeplessInAlabama (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:23 AM Response to Reply #44 |
57. I took it to mean they did not live in the United States. n/t |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:16 AM Response to Reply #57 |
68. duh, but why would you return to the United States FROM North Carolina |
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SleeplessInAlabama (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:56 AM Response to Reply #68 |
73. And I'm really not qualified to speak for OP... |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
59. The cops are out there trolling for dope. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:03 AM Response to Original message |
65. I think there's a simple solution to this. Any revenue the police collect should go to the state. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
66. M O N E Y .. actually the lack of it.. More fines=more $ |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
70. Your first sentence gives your whole post away. |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:37 AM Response to Original message |
72. In NC - court costs are $85 - $5 goes directly into the police retirement |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:48 AM Response to Original message |
75. Here in the Quad Cities area |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:49 AM Response to Original message |
79. most likely nabbing speeders |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
83. In the real world, police are actually revenue officers. |
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