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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:34 PM Original message |
I Am Truly, Truly Alarmed At The Mindset of Some DUers Here Re The Gates Incident |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. i am flabbergasted myself. i wasn't in these threads until this afternoon. i cannot |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
125. It's exceptionally lame, I agree. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #125 |
130. DU has gone waaaaaay comservative. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #130 |
165. As a fairly moderate Dem, I am shocked and disgusted. |
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BlueCaliDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #165 |
284. The officer was wrong. He was pissed that Prof. Gates demanded his name and badge number |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #284 |
298. Unfortunately, it appears police officers have moved from enforcing the law... |
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BlueCaliDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #298 |
321. In L.A. County that's the rule, not the exception. Here, they are gods |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #321 |
333. We live in an area under gang injunction. Obviously at 66, no officer |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #284 |
306. As a woman, I have been taught to ALWAYS demand to see ID from anyone |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #284 |
364. Beg to differ. |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:28 AM Response to Reply #130 |
219. I was shocked when I looked over at Free Republic. They |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #219 |
245. Great point. |
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kegler14 (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #219 |
256. Freepers have called this guy all kinds of names and made their share of |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:32 AM Response to Reply #256 |
258. no, .... it is seeing that cops have shifted to a bully, godlike, all powerful, no restriction |
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kegler14 (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #258 |
268. Sorry but I don't see that where I live. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #268 |
272. no, you dont see it. many people do and are angry and fighting for our rights |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #268 |
302. Of course you don't, that's the friggin' point |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #302 |
453. What happened to diffusing the situation, being bigger than the players |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #268 |
381. Do you speak any spanish while wandering around boston... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #268 |
413. what "third side" would that be, since no one's made the claim gates did anything more than mouth |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #219 |
353. Actually |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #219 |
379. rofl - thanks for that info. |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #379 |
389. Well, thank goodness that Prof. Gates didn't heed G. Gordon Liddy's advice, eh? nt |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #389 |
450. I'm afraid to ask. What did G. Gordon say? n/t |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #450 |
508. effectively, go for a head shot when the authorities come after you |
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rcrush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #219 |
505. I'm not surprised at all. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #219 |
506. Damn that's fucked up. n/t |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #219 |
507. Your screen name fits. That's a profound post. Thanks. |
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jhrobbins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #125 |
325. I am siding with the President in that cooler heads should have prevailed |
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downindixie (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
297. Gates was not in his home when he was arrested |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #297 |
303. Yelling is not illegal |
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Barrymores Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #303 |
339. You're talking to a pod sleeper. |
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Barrymores Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #303 |
340. self-delete (dupe) |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #303 |
475. If you argue with cops |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #297 |
305. as a retired officer you know you are trained to handle the anger. the cop was trained |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #297 |
309. Since when is the porch not a part of a person's home? Maybe the law is different |
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lies and propaganda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #297 |
310. "as a retired police seargeant..." |
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Supply Side Jesus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #310 |
376. Stay Classy San Diego! |
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Barrymores Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #297 |
341. Why am I disinclined to believe you are who you claim to be? |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #341 |
445. What's a pod sleeper? |
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Barrymores Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #445 |
499. It's a troll who registers and lays dormant for a few years... |
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freebrew (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #297 |
392. He may have been outside his house, |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #297 |
437. By then, the cop was ticked, and acted on HIS emotions. IMO. |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #297 |
446. As soon as the police were shown his id they should have |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #297 |
480. Are you familiar with the law in MA? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
3. Arresting a man of his age in his own home is insane. nt |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. It is upsetting when people use "a man of his age" with reference |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
186. Indeed. And since when are they letting children become police officers anyway? n/t |
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
36. A man of his age? I think he's only 58,The Stones are older than him |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
71. He uses a cane. Statistically, he's harmless. nt |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Clearly, |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #77 |
91. OK, you've made a case for handcuffing THIS guy: |
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Franzia (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
467. Be nice to the senior citizens or they will render you inoperative with their ninja cane fu skills! |
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enzymatic (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #71 |
523. He had to tell them he used a cane; he wasn't hobbling around at the time. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
103. The stones have been pickled. Nothing will kill them. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #103 |
116. Except falling out of a palm tree again. nt |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:47 PM Original message |
And Keith wouldn't have put up with that shit either. |
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awnobles (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
352. Hell Yes, |
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serbbral (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:40 AM Response to Reply #36 |
236. I think he's only 58....... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #236 |
422. police report says 58. |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #236 |
524. Belated Welcome to DU! |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:09 AM Original message |
Exactly my point. Name ONE 58 year old burglar who still stoops to home invasions. |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
454. Right.It was completely unnecessary and unwarranted Especially the handcuffs. |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #454 |
455. cops use no discretion anymore,They just want to handcuff everyone. even amputees |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. You can't "leave alone the race angle". That's the whole reason the incident occurred as it did. |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Well, maybe if he was really drunk.... not otherwise. eom |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Not insane, just very, very stupid. n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. two white people, middle of the day with LUGGAGE all around would not have gotten a call |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #14 |
262. But that has nothing to do with the cops. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #262 |
285. no, it has nothing to do with the cops, nor did i say it did. n/t |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
118. Yes. There are some SERIOUS class issues between folks like cops and Harvard types of any stripe.nt |
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BlueCaliDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #118 |
289. Did you catch the televised interview yesterday with Off. Crowley? |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
157. Well, what hte OP is saying is "leaving the race angle aside for the moment"... |
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Carni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
367. NO! I had the SAME THING HAPPEN/cops were very polite |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #367 |
386. You were shaking like crazy ... |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
469. Honestly, no I don't. But there are too many white people in denial. That is the problem. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. Thank you. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
6. Now you're overreacting. They're ok with a police state for black folks - not *themselves*. Duh... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. well you know what. then they are stupid ass white people, cause this white person sees |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
7. I know, I mean WTF? I'd be wigging out if I were in his shoes, too. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
8. "They who can give up essential liberty..." |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
10. That's right. The police had no business being *IN* his home once he showed ID. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
409. And how loud would you be screaming if |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #409 |
416. aliens might have been hiding in the attic too. how would everyone felt *then*? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #416 |
424. I just love how the police get it from both ends. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #424 |
432. maybe if they'd left once gates established he was the resident of the home, none of this would |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #432 |
440. It's hard to do your job, when someone is flipping out on you. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
463. No Fourth Amendment issue |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #463 |
485. All the cop had to do was leave |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #485 |
489. The cop gave a reason |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #489 |
510. Bullshit. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #510 |
511. Sounds good to me |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. Now read |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. All well and good, but is this really a 4th amendment issue? |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
57. I don't think it's a Fourth Amendment issue at all - |
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Duckhunter935 (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Thank you |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. what prompted Gates to go out onto the porch |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. He refused the first time, |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. That does not negate the fact that he was ordered outside |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Was he ordered to go outside |
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iris27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. I figured he was wondering what the hell all these OTHER cops were suddenly doing on his porch? |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:26 AM Response to Reply #81 |
208. According to the police report gates was not ordered to go outside .... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #78 |
241. Exactly. The fact that the officer ordered him out in the first place |
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FloriTexan (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #78 |
265. The whole thing blew up... |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #69 |
110. If he doesn't go on the porch, there's... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:18 PM Response to Reply #110 |
137. Exactly. The courts have ruled cops can use trickery to aid in an arrest, or gather evidence. |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:26 AM Response to Reply #137 |
207. If the purpose of the police is not to protect and serve, why are we paying their salaries? n/t |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:24 AM Response to Reply #207 |
215. The purpose of the police is to protect the general public |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. +1 This has nothing to do with the 4th |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. It seems that |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #75 |
132. Exactly. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #132 |
143. Right - |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #132 |
280. He was FALSELY arrested. There WAS no "disorderly conduct". |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #280 |
410. Glad to know you were there. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #132 |
328. Standing up for your rights is a crime? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #73 |
96. I disagree. The cop had no right of entry into the house. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #96 |
105. No, that's not so, |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #105 |
138. Exigent circumstances do not arise from your neighbor calling |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #138 |
144. It wasn't a neighbor who called it in - |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:10 AM Response to Reply #144 |
194. If it wasn't a neighbor, then that makes her even less 'reliable.' |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #194 |
263. To be fair, the fact they were "forcing" a door open is not in dispute. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #263 |
300. Take that as true--they forced the door open and then the driver |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #138 |
152. Gates home had been broken into before |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #152 |
155. And? Crowley didn't have that info at time of this call. No exigency. n/t |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #155 |
158. How can you possibly know that? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:03 AM Response to Reply #158 |
182. Why would Crowley have that info when no report had been made with his department? |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:18 AM Response to Reply #73 |
204. bullshit. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:27 AM Response to Reply #204 |
216. Reading Comprehension is FUN! |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #216 |
248. Crowley followed Gates INTO the house without invitation. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:19 AM Response to Reply #248 |
254. He entered the residence PRIOR to Gate providing ID. |
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Ysabela (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #204 |
271. But the black man was loud, that's a "crime" to these idiots. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #271 |
320. bottom line...they expect us to cower and defer |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #271 |
522. Belated Welcome to DU! |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #73 |
244. Read it again. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #57 |
86. Oh, yeah, it is a 4th issue, which is why the case was dropped |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Oh, lord - |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #90 |
100. Well, that type of legal repartee certainly proves your point! |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. I was one of them, |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #102 |
133. Not so great a job, eh? |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #133 |
145. Oooops! |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:55 AM Response to Reply #145 |
192. Because they are both black, that makes their cases alike? |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #192 |
351. Appellate counsel has placed you on ignore. That's one way to |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #192 |
357. pure pwnage.. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #192 |
393. "Skip Gates" "Jim CROWley" Well hallelujah there is a god, with a very sick sense of humor |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #192 |
503. Appellate counsel just got served! |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #86 |
124. The incident should have ended as soon as Gates |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:43 AM Response to Reply #124 |
178. I agree with you 100%. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:28 AM Response to Reply #124 |
187. +1, sabrina 1 |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:28 AM Response to Reply #124 |
220. He was asked to come outside so they could arrest him. |
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Ysabela (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #124 |
405. He was asked to go outside because... |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
147. Good points! n/t |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:57 AM Response to Reply #57 |
180. There is one thing in this incident that we know for a fact: The cop is lying |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:23 AM Response to Reply #180 |
197. That is the way it usually happens ~ |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #180 |
399. No - |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #399 |
496. There is a pic of him in the doorway, in cuffs. |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:40 AM Response to Reply #57 |
211. Best post on any thread about this situation. Thank you!. n/t |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
412. Why can't it be seen as being both? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
121. What kind of (Constitutionally valid) Disorderly Conduct statute applies to a person .... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #121 |
261. We ARE a police state now. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:19 AM Response to Reply #12 |
196. This is why people hate lawyers..... |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:19 AM Response to Reply #196 |
205. According to her post above |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #205 |
299. There are times when making someone's ignore list |
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southshore (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:19 AM Response to Reply #12 |
214. Should one accept Supreme Court decisions as final? |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #214 |
520. Welcome to DU! |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
308. So you ARE the reincarnation of OldLeftyLawyer |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #308 |
311. I am a recincarnation of no one - |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #311 |
312. Well, I think it had more to do with a certain "ass hole" quality |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #312 |
313. Yes, I'm sure |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #313 |
314. ...guess we have one thing in common then |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #314 |
395. Wrong - |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #312 |
479. That's asshole, Esquire, to you.... ; - ) |
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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
16. thanks so much |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
17. The president himself is all over this. It will be resolved. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. It is already resolved, charges were quickly dropped |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
82. Yep, except for the lawsuit. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
18. Amen! |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
19. I'm with ya on this, it's unbelievable the number of cops-run-amok apologists... |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
148. What I find discouraging... |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #148 |
162. Thanks fo puttin me in my place, massa...I'ze apologizes...nt |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #162 |
163. Oh no! Not the race card! |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:08 AM Response to Reply #163 |
167. Yeah, you figured it out. Congrats, genius. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:12 AM Response to Reply #167 |
169. Oh no! |
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GReedDiamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:17 AM Response to Reply #169 |
171. How many more nice days can I have in one day? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:32 AM Response to Reply #148 |
188. It is only costing Obama politically |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:29 AM Response to Reply #148 |
198. But we have two things to go on-- |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #198 |
242. There were actually two police reports |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #242 |
264. Got links? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #264 |
269. thesmokinggun.com |
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RayStar (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #269 |
488. 911 call |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #488 |
504. Every PD has their own procedures |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #488 |
519. Belated Welcome to DU! |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #242 |
296. Cops see one color. Blue. Just because someone is Hispanic, it |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #296 |
360. How delightfully prejudiced of you to say so |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #198 |
427. not to mention, per the police report itself, gates never set foot off the porch or did anything but |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #427 |
491. And Gates credibly denies "yelling", as he has a doctor's report attesting to severe bronchitis |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:32 AM Response to Reply #148 |
210. Obama doesn't make mistakes |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #210 |
234. I've been thinking a lot about that |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #148 |
255. Yes, there really should have been someone there with a camera |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #255 |
273. There was someone there with a camera |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #273 |
429. if the video is so good, why did they drop the charges, cho-de? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #429 |
452. Because it was a charge punishable by a $40 fine |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #148 |
316. Fuck that - Obama is right and you're just 100% wrong on this |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #148 |
331. Except... the charges were dropped and the Mayor apologized even if the |
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malletgirl02 (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
20. I agree |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
21. Obedience to authority |
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Egalitariat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
23. I read it was outside his home and was for Disorderly Conduct related to a tirade |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
24. I love that they unrecommend threads such as this one... |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:55 AM Response to Reply #24 |
161. You overestimate yourself, and by that, I mean your *self*. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:53 AM Response to Reply #161 |
179. "merit" = the functional equivalent of a bitchslap from any self-righteous ass ... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
25. The collective IQ.. |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
26. Yeah but the a-hole cop is an "expert" u know? |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
27. KnR. It's kind of stunning, isn't it? I thought the Prez was pretty restrained in his answer,frankly |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
28. Yes, it's very depressing. |
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Duckhunter935 (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. I was not going to dignify this |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. You might not be a racist... |
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Duckhunter935 (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Thank you, that raises the level of the dialog |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I'm not interested in trying to .. |
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Duckhunter935 (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Yes I get it, thank you again for calling me a "moron" |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
63. Duckhunter935, |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #63 |
233. particularly when it comes to cops |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #233 |
403. Sometimes it is justifiable for the cop to get the bad press. |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. First, Of All, I didn't Even Bring Up Race In This Post |
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Duckhunter935 (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Yes that was my mistake |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
109. But unless you condemn the arresting officer you're as guilty as he is. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #29 |
270. Stupid is as stupid does - and a person in his own home has every |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
31. I hadn't realized it had devolved to that point... |
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MlleCatherine (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
32. "Racist" cop gave mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to Reggie Lewis |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. It Doesn't Fucking Matter If He Found A Cure for Cancer |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. It Doesn't Fucking Matter If He Found A Cure for Cancer |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. I don't think the cop was a racist |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
93. I do. Did you see the thread where he is quoted as saying |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:20 AM Response to Reply #93 |
151. Excellent point. Clearly the cop was accusing him of having no rhythm |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:41 AM Response to Reply #151 |
191. Clearly the cop had no rational reason for arresting Gates |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:18 AM Original message |
"Bad tone" is a "racist dog whistle"? |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #41 |
250. When is the last time a 58 year old whtie person was suspected of being a Burglar in your 'hood? |
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Mattylock (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
394. That's my assessment as well. |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #394 |
518. Welcome to DU! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
33. A FREAKIN MEN |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
34. I have thought since I heard about it... |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
35. I suspect it's Stockholm Syndrome from the Bush years. |
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tj2001 (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:00 PM Original message |
The Trooper Is Your Friend. Obey Him At All Times. We Owe Our Life and Freedom To Him |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
49. Is that sarcasm? |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. I thought, sadly it wasn't sarcasm but.. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. put a chip in the head, be a zombie and move on.... pathetic. n/t |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. The poster was using sarcasm... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #68 |
97. wooosh. cause that is scary. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #97 |
127. LOL, yep, tonight is another one of the "one for the books" night for sure... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:00 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. bah hahaha. that is funny. yup. n/t |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #97 |
274. You type with your mouth? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #274 |
277. took me a minute to get it, lol . ya, lots of life wierd. hm. nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
52. fuck that shit. i tell my kids to beware adn dont trust. sheeeit |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
42. "Alarmed?' No, not at all. I take racists at their word. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
45. Mahalo nui loa (thank you very much)! |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
46. "It's just a goddamn piece of paper". |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
47. K&R. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
51. From what I see.. |
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Zavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
53. Although I agree with you, I and everyone else could have done without the condescending lecture. |
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Duckhunter935 (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Yep |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:09 AM Response to Reply #53 |
168. you must be joking |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
54. Are you so damn paranoid about crime that you're willing to live in a goddamn police state? |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
58. My mindset is that the President of the United States has an obligation to avoid |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Add to that Obama is friends with Dr. Gates. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. When he said "stupidly," |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. bertman - |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #66 |
79. Funny that you mention the Duke lacrosse rape case. I live a few miles from Durham |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:18 AM Response to Reply #58 |
173. you are not very popular around here - are you? |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #173 |
307. I learned a long time ago that being popular |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
61. I might have been surprised a few weeks back |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
64. CNN aired Gates mug shot today... |
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Indydem (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
65. Perhaps you should read up. |
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likesmountains 52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. so, it's his own fault because he got mad and didn't "keep his head" ? Oy |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #65 |
101. Hey, we got one of 'em here! |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #65 |
281. What does 'expectation of privacy' have to do with it? |
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Indydem (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #281 |
286. Take it up with the SCOTUS. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #286 |
322. That doesn't answer the question - what does 'privacy' have to do with anything? |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
70. Dude, the SCOTUS fucked us on the 4th Amendment long ago |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #70 |
388. Well, there's that..... |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
76. Don't be alarmed |
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bottomofthehill (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. School ID |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Im trying to be respectful |
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bottomofthehill (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:23 PM Response to Reply #92 |
106. thank you for the tone of the response |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #106 |
122. you are right, the arrest did happen outside the house. |
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bottomofthehill (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #122 |
140. Not a lawyer or a cop, but I will take a shot at it |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. he did not confront the officer |
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bottomofthehill (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:58 PM Response to Reply #142 |
149. Did I think he did anything he should be arrested for ... NO ...but |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #149 |
156. cool |
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bottomofthehill (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #156 |
231. Not so sure cop gets suspended or Dr Gates wins the law suit |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #149 |
301. The issue is simple |
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freebrew (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #142 |
408. What no one seems to be addressing.. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #122 |
323. are you aware that the charges were dropped? |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:59 AM Response to Reply #106 |
181. hubris is not a criminal offense |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:09 AM Response to Reply #181 |
225. +1! |
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bottomofthehill (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #181 |
232. No but Disorderly Conduct (what he got arrested for is) |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #232 |
292. nevermind |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #232 |
319. If you're a fucking Nazi it is |
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Leontius (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #319 |
338. I agree that the arrest was an overreaction |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #338 |
347. The fact that he arrested Gates means that he necessarily provoked him |
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Leontius (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #347 |
361. I see a cop responds to a call and thats provocation |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #361 |
365. SO you're acting like a single corpuscle |
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bottomofthehill (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #319 |
385. This response is exactly what causes the problem |
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LongTomH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
80. Right! Fucking! On!!!!!! |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
83. Yes, it's appalling that some still don't get it. |
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raventattoo (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
84. K&R |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
85. I would hope if someone was suspected to be breaking into |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #85 |
107. The cop was looking for an excuse to make a collar... |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #107 |
146. Why didn't Gates just show him his ID as asked, case closed? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #146 |
166. He did show them two pieces of ID. And they weren't satisfied. n/t |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #146 |
294. I wager when YOU got pulled over the cops never asked you |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #294 |
484. Yes I have been asked "were are you going" and |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #85 |
287. It didn't start with him demanding his name and badge number. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
87. fuck yea |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
89. According to the police, he didn't show ID. So it just depends which story one believes. |
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bottomofthehill (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. according to the Police he showed a Harvard ID |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #95 |
295. But it is, nonetheless, a PHOTO ID. With his name on it. |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:27 PM Response to Reply #89 |
108. According to which of the two differing police reports? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. i have only been shown one report, of course from the oh so innocent policeman |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #89 |
111. Hopefully it will be reviewed and either clear Gates or the officer... |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
98. Thank You, Thank You, Thank You |
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ClayZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
99. K and R |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
104. i also find it rather disturbing. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #104 |
113. Seems to me if you went off on a cop in the 1970s you might have fared worse |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
114. Amendments 4 & 1 You are so on target |
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bottomofthehill (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. That would be right if he was arrested in his home |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. Why are you defending this officer - he has no respect for any fundamental rights |
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bottomofthehill (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:00 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. No respect for any fundamental rights......a little much dont you think |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:25 AM Response to Reply #128 |
153. One of them owned the home and anothe didn't |
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Indydem (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #153 |
290. It is semantics, but Gates doesn't own the home. Harvard does. n/t |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #290 |
377. Right, one is a resident of the home, the other isn't. n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #128 |
492. There are two sides to every story, a right side and a wrong side |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #123 |
136. Thank you. -nt |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:25 AM Response to Reply #136 |
154. Welcome n/t |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
115. Actually repugs are supposed to NOT allow cops into your home! |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
117. See that's how the fuck ya get to the greatest page!!!! |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
120. Unfortunately, we now live in a police state - i hope this makes obama realize it. |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
126. Some of the stuff I've read here tonight has left me speechless. |
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Ex Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
131. a cop and a Harvard prof. Two of the most arrogant people on earth. |
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bottomofthehill (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. Bingo |
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mwooldri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
134. Leaving out the race angle, yes you're correct. |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
139. thank-you |
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lxlxlxl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
141. the country can barely deal with law enforcement overstep |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
150. "Are you so damn paranoid about crime that you're willing to live in a goddamn police state?" |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
159. Ask someone who cares to explain it to you about "hot pursuit" |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #159 |
428. lol. nice try. |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #428 |
471. Yes it is. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #471 |
509. no crime = no "hot pursuit" |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #509 |
516. Please look up the defintion of hot pursuit. |
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pauldg0 (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
160. Just read the damn police report..... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:05 AM Response to Reply #160 |
164. You mean that report written by the same guy that made the bad arrest? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:17 AM Response to Reply #160 |
172. You mean the psychopaths that believe the birther shit and are a pack of racist morons? |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
170. I agree based on the first sentence! then it turned to into a curse fest where I felt like IIII was |
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PretzelWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
174. excellent. you deserve top spot on Greatest page. hey! you are there! |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
175. bmaz at emptywheel has an excellent analysis of |
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ControlledDemolition (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
176. K&R. Now let's have another look at the ' Patriot Act' ! |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
177. I Am Truly, Truly Alarmed At The Mindset of Some DUers That This Bonehead, From The Gut OP |
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farmboxer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:05 AM Response to Original message |
183. News said he was in his 60's and uses a cane |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
184. The question that I have, that hasn't been asked, is who called the cops in the first place? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:36 AM Response to Reply #184 |
189. She was apparently passing by. She works at the offices |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:05 AM Response to Reply #189 |
193. Thanks! I find it baffling that she hasn't been mentioned, since she started this whole thing. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:39 AM Response to Reply #193 |
199. I thought she was a neighbor, but apparently she's not--she was |
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meowomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
185. The officer admitted he knew Gates was the lawful resident. |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:41 AM Response to Original message |
190. Kick. Thanks for some sanity. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:12 AM Response to Reply #190 |
195. ditto |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:27 AM Response to Original message |
200. There are probably many cops here on DU... |
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onestepforward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:27 AM Response to Original message |
201. Great post. K&R |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:52 AM Response to Original message |
202. Gates did make a mistake... |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
203. I'm with you. |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
206. How many DU posters said the cop was right to arrest Gates? |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
209. You are quite correct. sir |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
212. What's a Constitution? The United States dumped that during the bush* administration and |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
213. What if a cop were black and a skin head was calling him a nigger and giving him attitude |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:17 AM Response to Reply #213 |
230. The cop should be trained to keep cool and leave the scene. |
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DallasNE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
217. Amen |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
218. Superb thread |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
221. May I offer a different approach to this issue? |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
222. Partial agreement. |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
223. Thank you!!!!! |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
224. K&R |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
226. well said Yavin4 |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
227. I think you need to read the 23d Amendment before you spout off again |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
228. to answer your questions for most people on this board: |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
229. I talked to my Dad's friend who is a JSO police officer |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
235. disturbing how many are ready to kneel before Zod! |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
237. It's the authoritarian mindset. |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
238. Don't lecture to people like children about Constitutional law... |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
239. K & R Those who would give up Essential Liberty |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #239 |
243. Ben Franklin is dead! |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #243 |
448. Quotes may not be worth fecal matter BUT... |
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madmax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
240. Bravo!!!! n/t |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
246. K&R |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
247. Oh, please don't forget about the 1st Amendment. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
249. I cited that, too, a day or two ago in a previous post. I was told the police were correct |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
251. Obama's Health Care Plan is Toast |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #251 |
260. You wish. n/t |
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Fading Captain (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #260 |
275. No. Actually, I am ambiguous. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
252. I think the civil and criminal court systems should sort out what happened and handle it |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
253. I have posted the 4th Amendment previously to several threads on the subject |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
257. It is an eye opener |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
259. Some assholes didn't want him to become President |
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MzNov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
266. Cops Gone Wild in America |
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vanlassie (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
267. Kicking. Cop was shockingly out of line. |
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tomreedtoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
276. Listen to these words of sense from a non-black person. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
278. Congrats, your post is the worst and most inflamatory...you are not basing this |
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mackerel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #278 |
279. Black people always get hassled? You're leaving out us |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
282. agreed, but I've also seen people defending taser abuse here |
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Chisox08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
283. Once the cop saw Gates ID that should have been it. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
288. They aren't DUers. They're trolls. nt |
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gabby garcia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
291. Dave Chappelle gets it. |
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Richd506 (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
293. I'm on the proffessors side on this one |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
304. Kicked and recommended. |
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JayMusgrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
315. Your opening comments are F'ing RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
317. thank you...there was no need for an "attitude" arrest |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
318. Let Me Add This |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #318 |
324. Apparently we post here with a bunch of authoritarians who want to live in a dictatorship |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #324 |
327. We Have People Who Have Been Indoctrinated |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #318 |
326. damn right |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #326 |
330. And That's Why They're Neither Liberal Nor Progressives |
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DeLaroche (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #326 |
337. Gates is an idiot. |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #337 |
342. You Are An Authoritarian |
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DeLaroche (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #342 |
345. No, he didn't. |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #345 |
398. You Want To Live In An Authoritarian Police State |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #345 |
435. ranting on one's own porch is a crime? who knew? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #345 |
451. he never refused per his statement |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #337 |
449. you don't have the facts straight |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #318 |
329. Hear, hear! |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
332. Right. The officer should left or should have gotten a warrant. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
334. Gates should have called a lawyer when the officer asked for Gates's ID. |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
335. Emotion trumps logic sometimes |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
336. I agree completely |
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DeLaroche (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #336 |
343. So |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #343 |
349. what part of IN HIS OWN HOME is too hard for you to comprehend here? |
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DeLaroche (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #349 |
354. No I'm not. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #354 |
359. HA! You mean you showed the cop ID, and then he left? |
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DeLaroche (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #359 |
368. Yep |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #368 |
401. Oh? |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #343 |
356. I don't give a fuck if the police respect me at all. |
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DeLaroche (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #356 |
369. Wow |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #369 |
387. Why not? I pay for them, doesn't mean I have to fucking like them. |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
344. Perhaps I no longer belong here then . . . |
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DeLaroche (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #344 |
348. Disagreement is fine. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #344 |
355. An investigation by who? Cops? |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #344 |
400. Perhaps You Don't |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #400 |
402. My, you are a superior one, aren't you? May I kiss your ring? |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #402 |
404. If I Did Make The Rules, |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #404 |
420. I would imagine that DU would be a smaller, shriller more reactionary place, |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #400 |
414. We'll see - this is hilarious though |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #414 |
421. That guy is so funny... |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #421 |
456. Crazy but I feel better that I have some company |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #456 |
477. We're not the only two that have a rational side. |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 05:13 AM Response to Reply #477 |
500. "I just want to get all the facts before I make a decision" |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
346. I'm in awe. It's almost like some sort of fucking joke. |
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DeLaroche (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #346 |
350. Exactly |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #350 |
358. See, this is a case of you believing the fucking bullshit that the cop is spewing. |
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JackHughes (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
362. Gates was arrested for "contempt of cop." |
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DeLaroche (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #362 |
371. Jack |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #371 |
426. Like Serpico? |
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VenusRising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
363. Authoritarians come in all flavors. |
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livetohike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
366. Thank you for this |
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DeLaroche (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #366 |
370. Great |
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livetohike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #370 |
372. Is that some kind of argument to the 4th amendment?? |
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DeLaroche (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #372 |
374. And there was a break-in reported. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #374 |
380. Only a cop would assume that Gates didn't |
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livetohike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #374 |
383. Exactly how did Gates act "like an idiot"? |
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375. Same to you |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
382. They are brainwashed is why.... |
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Ysabela (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #382 |
407. Don't talk about Flouride and Chemtrails... |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #407 |
498. Dear Ysabela,,, |
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jacobfloyd (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
390. GODDAMMIT! FUCKIN RIGHT!! |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
391. But this incident DOESN'T AFFECT ANYONE. We need to move on to something else. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
397. I wholeheartedly agree with Yavin 4, the original poster. |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #397 |
430. DU is the not progressive anymore |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
406. It takes decades to wipe out ignorance, bigotry, and racism. And yes. it's hear too. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #406 |
441. In other words, if you look at THIS incident and think the cop was in the right, you are bigoted? |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #441 |
460. If you are not safe in your own home, where are safe at? |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
411. Maybe a poor arrest decision, but certainly not racially motivated. Also, a person could be arrested |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #411 |
415. Please consider two things: |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #415 |
443. No, that is what judgement and discretion are about. The 4th amendment, like all rights, is very |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #415 |
444. So the first amendment allows you to yell FIRE in a crowded theater? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #444 |
447. Huh? I mention the FOURTH amendment |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #447 |
512. My point, if you could get past your emotional baggage, is that the 4th amendment does not allow |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
417. why were the charges dropped |
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lexanman (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #417 |
431. The charges were dropped |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
418. HELLO? Do you realize not everyone in DU is a lib? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #418 |
419. oh yes indeed... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #419 |
423. Deleted message |
fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #423 |
425. I'm not interested in talking to you |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #423 |
436. de larouche? |
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iamapatriot (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #423 |
462. North Korea |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 10:14 AM Response to Reply #462 |
502. Most DU folks despise arrogant authoritarians and their cheerleaders |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #418 |
442. BS. Just because someone has another view on one issue doesn't make that person a RePUKE. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #442 |
497. It does if they hold Republican viewpoints, and if you believe there are no GOPers in here.... |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #497 |
513. And then there are others who are soooooooooo far left that they think ANYONE not ultra left is a |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #513 |
514. Okay, I'm listening. Like what? lol |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
433. I am Truly Alarmed Also |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
434. Thanks Yavin4! K&R. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
438. Here's a good example of "Unrecommend" |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
439. love you, Yavin |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #439 |
459. Right Back At You, Cat! |
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iamapatriot (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
457. DU |
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Dave From Canada (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
458. I can't understand your mindset. You can't refer to a police offier's mother, and expect to be |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #458 |
461. It Has Everything To Do With The Constitution |
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iamapatriot (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #461 |
465. Its called disorderly conduct |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #465 |
470. Let Me Ask You This |
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iamapatriot (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #470 |
474. Yes |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #474 |
481. Suppose A Cop Says That You Yelled At Him |
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Dave From Canada (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #481 |
493. The cop would have to fill out a report. If he/she is lying, then you'd look to witnesses to |
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VOX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
464. Nailed it, Yavin4 -- thanks. I just logged on...Jesus to God, what a 5-star shitstorm. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #464 |
466. Deleted message |
iamapatriot (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #464 |
468. disorderly? no it was more like he was....... |
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iamapatriot (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
472. Constitution |
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kayakjohnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
473. Your point is understandable, |
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iamapatriot (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
476. too bad |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
478. Some folks on DU act stupidly, i.e. like Republicans. |
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Dave From Canada (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #478 |
494. As well as Gates. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #478 |
515. Some folks on DU DO act stupidly. |
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scytherius (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
482. If we took to the streets, we could change this nation. We won't. That is why . . . |
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farmboxer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
483. That policeman is a Republican, said he did not vote for Obama. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #483 |
490. Deleted message |
B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 06:56 AM Response to Reply #490 |
501. Amazing. . . . |
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Dave From Canada (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #483 |
495. He's not racist, the Professor is, and is the one who stereotyped. The police officer has many . |
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Stellar (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
486. Well, it's a good thing police officers don't lie |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #486 |
517. Welcome to DU! |
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cadmium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
487. Never go broke |
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enzymatic (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
521. What ammendment covers FISA/wiretapping? |
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Strong Atheist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
525. Agreed. nt. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
526. Yes, the rationalizations for police misconduct have been appalling. |
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