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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 11:57 PM
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Osama bin Laden is an asshole.
Edited on Wed Jul-22-09 11:57 PM by David Zephyr
Sometimes those of us on the Left need to speak out about things where we are a little too quiet.

I despise Osama bin Laden. He murdered 3,000 Americans of all races, gay and straight, old and young, poor and rich. And he bragged about it.

I'm glad that President Obama is taking on the Taliban who brutalize women and who have hidden this sack of shit murderer from justice.

So, for what it's worth, this Leftie says without any reservation: Osama bin Laden is an asshole.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 11:59 PM
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1. I think he's most likely a DEAD asshole
but he was a mostly American-created and trained asshole.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:00 AM
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3. Oh, we trained him, we armed him and his family are long time business partners with the Bush Family
But I still despise him.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:03 AM
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5. I don't know him...
My despise function is reserved for assholes I actually know, at least in passing.

Now, my loathe function works for people like him.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:00 AM
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2. He needs to be turned into a liquid.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:02 AM
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4. Osama Bin Laden WAS an asshole
Just like his employers, the Bush Crime Family.

He's dead now though, and probably has been since 2002.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:13 AM
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7. Well Duh!
Of course he's dead... he was an egotistical bastard just like Bush, and loved to get on the news. But we keep trotting him out like a fictional bogeyman/devil, to justify a war and secure the region for an Oil pipeline across Afghanistan to move middle eastern oil to America. Spending millions to keep the arms manufacturers and oil companies in business to find one pitiful asshole, and to save women is NOT the prime reason for this war. but if they find his body, I think they ought to have him stuffed and put in a glass case at the twin towers site so that Americans can spit at him for centuries to come.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:30 AM
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10. He's not charged with anything in connection to 9/11.
Very odd that his FBI "Most Wanted" resume does not mention OBL's involvement in 9/11 if he was the alledged mastermind.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:53 AM
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12. Maybe that's a sign that he is dead! LOL
Can't charge a dead man for anything can ya! LOL
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:08 AM
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16. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed gets top billing.
NOT to take away from Bin Laden's top asshole status but in the past few years the story of 9/11 got "managed".
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:45 AM
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20. This simple fact seems to escape most people. Oh well.
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Truth Talks Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:06 AM
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6. Question Mark
I'm really not sure what to think about Osama bin Laden. First, are we 100% certain that he was behind the 9/11 terrorist attacks? I mean, it's probably true, but I'd really like to hear the whole story - and not from the U.S. government.

Second, WHY would Osama do such a thing? Could it be in retaliation for the
countless thousands of Middle Easterners who have been murdered by the West?

One might still argue that it's wrong to murder civilians, under any circumstances. But, for whatever it's worth, I don't believe any children were killed in the 9/11 attacks. Contrast that with the carnage in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Personally, I think it's hard to call Osama bin Laden an asshole without saying the same thing about people who murder children in other nations. Saying they were merely following orders doesn't cut it.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:15 AM
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9. Murderer or not...
He was an asshole, no really, as a person, he WAS an asshole..:rofl:
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:13 AM
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8. Dead or alive he's an asshole.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:32 AM
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11. Osama Bin Laden is our Emmanuel Goldstein...
Hell, they couldn't even get the same actor to play him twice in all of those videos. Or even find actors that looked remotely like each other.

Best I remember, it was fat black Osama that bragged about murdering Americans on video.





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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:55 AM
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13. Yea well my bet is he died years ago.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 10:07 AM
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24. then who is ken lay going to play squash with this afternoon...?
:shrug:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 07:59 AM
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14. He was our bought and paid for asshole, may I remind you
Now, he's our bought and paid for dead asshole.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:00 AM
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15. 1 asshole isn't worth over 4,000 MORE american lives
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:09 AM
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17. Most CIA employees are.
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:19 AM
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18. You're expecting an argument about that statement?
Then you've come to the wrong place and person.
But please do not forget that for a time, he was "OUR" asshole ... specifically trained and paid under the policies and authorization of many of the same people who ignored all evidence (at the very least) that 9-11 was a-brewing and then used that event to begin two quagmire wars, at least one of which is illegal and immoral, resulting in the deaths and displacement of millions. That is only a fraction of their illegality, corruption and crimes against their own countrymen. Think Katrina, for example.
So a lot of our homegrown assholes are every bit as bad, some even worse than he is/was, IMO. Sure, he's an easy target, as are the Taliban, but in focusing specifically on him, your statement also demonstrates more than a tinge of racism and xenophobia. I hope that is not what you intended.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:36 AM
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19. But the Southern Baptists are just as bad!
:sarcasm:
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 10:04 AM
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22. Just because Jimmy Carter says it doesn't make it true. Islam treats women worse.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 10:42 AM
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26. I agree. I was commenting on how whenever someone criticizes something some Muslim somewhere did,
no matter how vile, a DUer will immediately pop up and declare, "Well, the Southern Baptists are just as bad."

You can set your watch by it.

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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:48 AM
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21. On the other hand, I like puppies.
I know I'm going to get flack for this, but I find their fuzzy little ears adorable.

I'm proud to join you in a courageous stand against bad stuff.

:crazy:
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 10:07 AM
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23. If you held that view during Bush's tenure, then you are consistent at least. Wrong, as these wars
are not worth getting one human being, but consistent.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 10:18 AM
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25. Actually, he was a criminal and should have been treated as such.
Just as b*sh is a criminal and should be behind bars. A war should never have been started just to find and prosecute ONE man and his organized crime outfit.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 10:57 AM
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27. Interesting OP/thread.
My opinion on Usama bin Laden and his participation in the Afghan v USSR war; the nature of his role in regard to US intelligence then; and his role in what we call "terrorism" and he calls "holy war," are a bit different than most DUers.

Regardless, I think that he is/was of a character that I consider distinct from being an "asshole." However, people process some words differently than I do. I think he is/was intelligent, and combined the arts of being an engineer with extreme violence. The combination was fueled by an extremely violent interpretation of Islam, of the history of the Middle East, and of global current events.

At this point, I think there is a 50/50 chance that he is dead. If so, the most likely cause of death would be that some of our most skilled special forces were able to get to him in a manner that did not suggest assassination. An apparent death of "natural causes" would take from his potential legend, and would be reason for both sides to not report it. The vast majority of what the western world "knows" about him is myth, anyhow, so if our special forces did him in and doesn't report it, I think that's fine.
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Fading Captain Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 11:06 AM
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28. Sky is Blue!
I just wanted some people on the left to come out and say it, for fucks sake.
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