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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:10 PM
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This is just stupid... ie Obama birth certificate
Maybe I'm missing something here, but why not spend the money (like $10-20) to get a copy of your birth certificate and shut these freepers up. I realize the man is the president and has lots on his plate, maybe even this mime is not registering with his staff... but for crying out loud, can't they just produce the documents and put an end to this stupid debate. How hard is this ? Gezzz your the president, tell someone to "make it so" and move on.

*palm plant

Peace,
MZr7
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:11 PM
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1. Where did this come from?
Edited on Wed Jul-22-09 06:13 PM by Bicoastal
This isn't your sentiment, is it?

'Cuz we've been over and over and OVER this...
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:17 PM
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12. No...
I'm just tired of listening to it all. This should not be this hard to shut the wing-nuts up and move on. But then again, I'm being silly, they live for this crap and if the doctor that delivered him put out a sworn affidavit there would still be questions.

Guess I'm just frustrated. The noise level on this drivel is way to high when there is so much more going on.

Peace,
MZr7
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:27 PM
Response to Reply #12
23. delete
Edited on Wed Jul-22-09 06:29 PM by Bicoastal
sorry
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:31 PM
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28. Thank you!!!!... you made my point.
Granted, I had to "act" to get that said, but damn... as my OP said, "This is just stupid"...

Peace,
MZr7
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 09:47 PM
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42. why shut them up
they are going to focus their hate on something, let them do it on a non-issue and continue to come off as crazed loons.

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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:11 PM
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2. According to what I heard on the news tonight, Hawaii does not allow the release
of birth certifications to the public.

:shrug:

Of course that could be an M$M talking point.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:17 PM
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11. Obama specifically authorized HI officials, per HI law, to go on tv and
VERIFY the existence and correctness of his birth record.

This matter is CLOSED.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:26 PM
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21. Stupid me actually listened to the M$M.
:grr:

Thanks.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:28 PM
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24. NO STATE DOES. NOBODY without a legally compelling reason
to get a certified copy of a birth record can get a certified copy of a birth record. Hell, we genealogists generally can't even get a photocopy sans certification anymore, unless the record is over 75 years old, lol.

Identity theft is the reason behind these laws.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:12 PM
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3. Obama doesn't negotiate with terrorists.....
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:14 PM
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6. Ding, ding, ding
We have a winner. :applause:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:13 PM
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4. HE ALREADY PRODUCED IT!
Edited on Wed Jul-22-09 06:14 PM by WeDidIt
FUCK!

As far as I'm concerned, anybody who comes on DU saying he hasn't is a fucking Birther.

HERE, This si what he got when he paid his fee to the state of HAwaii:

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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:16 PM
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9. pretty much
The idea that proof would some how persuade these people is funny.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 09:43 PM
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41. MazeRat is hardly a birther...
;-)
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:13 PM
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5. There are two kinds of birth certificates
The so called long form and the regular form that he's already produced. They're screaming for the other one. Of course. Hawaii doesn't release that. It's probably too much of a pain to find if for everyone.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:18 PM
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Au contraire...
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:18 PM
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15. Original documents like that ARE NEVER RELEASED. Originals must be
retained in the state's possession. Hence the very existence of CERTIFIED COPIES.

Why are people so FUCKING STUPID about the law???
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:30 PM
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27. There isn't any "long form" or "short form" mentioned on the HI
Vital Records website. There is only a "certified copy", lol.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:15 PM
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7. You must have been in your mom's basement when HE PRODUCED
THE CERTIFIED COPY of his birth record that is ALL OVER THE INTERNET and when he took the legal step of authorizing the HI Vital Records people to go on tv and VERIFY the record.

STFU with this crap.
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:19 PM
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17. I don't have a mom or a basement, please save that crap for a script kiddy. n/t
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. You know damned well what I mean. Stop acting like a RW troll,
or somebody might think you ARE one with this CRAP.

Spewing birther talking points will get you a pizza.
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:26 PM
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22. Dont go there. I don't play nice under such accusations..... n/t
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:29 PM
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25. Oh no! You're gonna post mean stuff on the internet?
:rofl:
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:33 PM
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32. Naaa, that would be silly and I live for silly..... n/t
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:16 PM
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8. The form that has been posted on Obama's campaign site for a year or more
Is the ONLY VERSION that the State of Hawaii will give out anymore. So in response to your question, "why not spend the money (like $10-20) to get a copy of your birth certificate and shut these freepers up" - it has ALREADY BEEN DONE.

The problem is that the moron birthers will not accept the facts. Why don't you?
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:19 PM
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16. I have, I'm sick and tired of hearing it all... n/t
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:30 PM
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26. So why start yet another thread echoing the birther meme? n/t
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:31 PM
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29. Then why the fuck are you starting a thread about this crap?
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:17 PM
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10. are you fucking serious?
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:18 PM
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13. Yes, lets shut this crap down. I'm tired of hearing about it. n/t
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:24 PM
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19. I'm not
The more they talk about it the crazier they look. Especially since the facts are on the side that Obama was born in Honolulu, Oahu, State Of Hawaii.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:33 PM
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31. He already shut it down by producing the certified copy and having the
HI Vital Records people come on tv and explicitly state that it was a TRUE AND CORRECT copy.

You and your friends are the ones who need to GIVE IT UP.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:18 PM
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14. 1. Because he already has.
2. The man had to produce a valid birth certificate to EVER get an American Passport, which he got years ago.

3. Why the hell would he want to shut them up? The more they talk, the BETTER he looks.

4. Birthers are shitheads.

5. See #4.
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:20 PM
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18. Amen!!! n/t
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:33 PM
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33. You can fool some of the people all of the time, but you sure as hell don't fool me.
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:46 PM
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39. No intent to "fool" anyone...
Maybe if you got to know me better you would learn I have little patience for this kind of crap. Occasionally, I sound off, but generally just read and absorb.

Peace,
MZr7
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:32 PM
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30. It has been released, but the media are now entertaining the
conspiracy theorists in order to make more $$$$$. By entertaining, I mean that they are addressing it, even as a conspiracy theory. If it's even mildly entertaining, it sells.
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:42 PM
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38. I know... that is why I sick and tired of it all...
I venture to say you know me better than anyone on this board, you also know how intolerant I am of this lame kind of talking point....

BTW... It just started raining. First time in what seems like forever... Certainly today is a good day.

Peace,
MZr7
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 09:42 PM
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40. It sounds as if this has been in the infotainment news again recently.
Has it?

Good news about the rain! We got a good rain here last night, and the nights are finally going back to normal re cool temperatures! :hi:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:34 PM
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34. Wow. They're really coming out of the woodwork today
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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:37 PM
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36. My apologies for my prior comment to you. I had been away. I had no idea....
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:38 PM
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37. :) Live and learn.
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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 06:35 PM
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35. Sigh
:banghead::eyes: :banghead::eyes: :banghead::eyes: :banghead: :eyes: :banghead: :eyes: :banghead::eyes: :banghead: :eyes:
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 09:50 PM
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43. there are some mean-ass people here on the DU. sweet jeezus.
MazeRat, it was a perfectly good question. He did address this issue during the election, but as you pointed out clearly the freeper types have giant tin foil hats on and other than hitting the rewind button to be physically present at his birth, nothing will appease them. I for one think that's just fine. Exposes them for the koo-koo for coco puffs nutbags that they are.

Plus, more and more of the MSM are pointing out the ridiculousness of this each and everyday.
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