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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:48 PM
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Obama should invite the birther leaders like Berg and Taitz to the WH
Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 10:50 PM by LLStarks
We all know he's a natural borne citizen, but they need convincing.

Obama should unseal and show his original, unabridged, non-COLB version of his BC if only to shut the two up and have them call off all the crazies that are gathering guns and ammunition.

I know that this would be tantamount to conceding to the birthers, but I'd rather things end peacefully than in violence.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:51 PM
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1. They will never accept any proof so it's pointless.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:54 PM
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2. I don't have my original birth certificate
I have one issues by the state. Lots of people only have that birth certificate.

He should still invite them all to the White House though. That would just be funny.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:16 PM
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17. The only reason I have mine is that my parents keep everything
And they have only moved twice since I was born. If it were not for that, I would only have the new one issued by the state that I just got. It looks identical to Obama's that is posted on the internet.
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NoQuarter Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:19 PM
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19. No one has their original.
All documents held by individuals are certified copies.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:38 PM
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26. Long long ago
but not so far away, birth certificates were handwritten or typed and had all kinds of information on them. When you order a copy from the state, they're nothing like the *copy* of the original many of us used to have. I'm sure Obama had something similar being born in the early 60s. So even if that's what the birthnuts are considering "original", it doesn't mean anything because lots of people don't have that birth certificate anyway.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 03:18 AM
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37. exactly...the 'original' that my parents had was a negative of the hospital-issued original.
Edited on Wed Jul-22-09 03:26 AM by Gabi Hayes
can't remember all the info on it, but what WAS on there was a set of my newborn FOOTprints.

wish I could get a copy of that one, but the three I got a few years back (passport renewal) were completely different, certified/seal-embossed copies, suitable for the US State Departmen

that said, I want this to go on forever. it's entertaining as can be, and only redounds to the negative for the crazed, benighted dregs of the party of the far far right
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NoQuarter Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 04:02 PM
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38. My 'original' is exactly like yours.
That wierd negative thingy that actually only includes the date it was signed, NOT the actual cate of my birth.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:57 PM
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3. I find the whole thing amusing. Only in America.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:57 PM
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4. Sorry but 8 years of crazy people in the White House was enough
Now that we have someone sane there, no reason for him to invite crazies back.
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cloudbase Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:57 PM
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5. Nah.
The longer the birthers rant about this, the dumber they look. Let them keep going.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:58 PM
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6. Fuck that
Don't placate whack-jobs
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:00 PM
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7. The passport record of Pres. Obama's mother would not be that difficult
It would have to have been stamped when she traveled to kenya.. No passport stamp near the date of birth, and it's settled ..I know he was born in Hawaii, but these freakazoids seem to not understand..
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:33 PM
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23. The government didn't keep "passport records" in that fashion.
They do keep records of embarkation and disembarkation, manifests, in essence. You can often figure out where people are coming from in that manner, but not always.

Example: You take a plane to Paris, and then a second, French plane to Mozambique. The embarkation record shows you going to Paris.

You return from Mozambique by way of London on British Air. The disembarkation record shows you coming in from London.

They never xeroxed anyone's passport to check the stamps, either.

Nowadays, you can get travel records pretty easily through agencies like INTERPOL if you have a valid reason for them.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:02 PM
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8. Or he could tell the birther leaders to kiss his Hawaiian-born black ass.
Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 11:03 PM by WorseBeforeBetter
I don't have a copy of my original birth certificate -- I have a raised-seal copy.

I think you put way too much faith in the crazies. They're the ones who believe Saddam had WMDs and moved them to Syria under cover of darkness. THOSE crazies -- nothing will convince them.
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:03 PM
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9. He should do anything he can
to keep the birthers in the limelight and keep them skeptical.

Of course, he probably doesn't feel, as I do, that complete and utter destruction of the Republican party generally is necessary to the re-establishment of peace and prosperity in the world.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:07 PM
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10. he should deport them to the America their from
and not the America of Obama and the rest of us.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:08 PM
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11. They're not credible in any way, so why lend them some credibility?
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:14 PM
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15. Strategy. nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:38 PM
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25. I think it's better strategy to not end this story.
I don't want this issue to go away, and if Obama does this is would end it. The birthers are willingly walking into the light for all to see, and they will do no damage to Obama, despite what the MSM wants you to believe. Let the birthers flail about for as long as they can. The longer it goes on without a resolution the more shrill the birthers will get, calling even more attention to their craziness, and by extension, the GOP's craziness. It also forces Repubs to either distance themselves from the birthers, which will hurt them, or align themselves with the birthers, which will also hurt them. It's a win-win for the Democrats and Obama. It helps us, not hurts us. The birthers are a gift to the Dems. These people are marginalizing the Repubs even more than the GOP itself is. :)
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gopiscrap Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:11 PM
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12. You know, I kinda enjoy listening to these
nut jobs rant and rave...the media is starting to portray them as a bunch of fucking loons and that's gonna help our cause!
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:38 PM
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27. They don't have to be portrayed as loons, they ARE fucking loons. Case closed.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:13 PM
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13. Why the hell should Obama waste even a milisecond of his time on this bullshit?
Obama should unseal and show his original, unabridged, non-COLB

Freepers say this exact same thing, even down to the "unsealed" part since they've convinced themselves that somehow, some way he's had his birth certificate "sealed." But I'm SURE that's just a coincidence on your part. :eyes:
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:18 PM
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18. ...
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:39 PM
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28. Yeah, by some amazing coincidence the OP sounds as if lifted from Free Republic
Isn't that amazing?
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:13 PM
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14. ABSOLUTELY NOT. NO EFFIN' WAY.
To acknowledge their existence is to lend them credibility.

This question has been answered with more than sufficient documentation for any court of law and any sane person.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:16 PM
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16. It doesn't matter what they "think" ... since they've demonstrated that they DON'T.
Rather than invite such crazies in, they should be locked up for 72 hours of observation. Clearly, they're mentally ill.
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NoQuarter Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:25 PM
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20. No.
They're simply fuckin' racist asswipes.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:27 PM
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21. I hate to tell you this, but the electronic document from HI is quite valid.
He may not HAVE a copy of his photostatic birth certificate with raised seal. He may not have the copy of his hospital birth certificate.

And why should he bow to fucking nutcases?

And what do you mean by I'd rather things end peacefully than in violence.

Have you taken a wrong turn, or something? Anyone "gathering guns and ammunition" is likely gathering a rich degree of surveillance as well.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:31 PM
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22. Things have already ended peacefully.
We all voted for him and he's President. I don't see a problem. :shrug: The crazies will always find some nonsense to attach themselves to.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:34 PM
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24. I hope Obama declines to spit on those scum-bucket treasonous bastards if they are on fire
Nice try though.

Fuck all the pasty white, fat-assed, flat-footed, inbred, slow-bus-riding birthers. Sideways and twice.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:50 PM
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30. Yeah!!
Fuck all the pasty white, fat-assed, flat-footed, inbred, slow-bus-riding birthers. Sideways and twice.

:applause: :applause: :applause:
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NoQuarter Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 04:04 PM
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40. with no lube. n.t.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:43 PM
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29. How do they explain the 1961
the 1961 Honolulu newspaper birth announcements?

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/07/14/soldier-wont-go-to-a.html
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:51 PM
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31. Great parody of a freeper brainstorm.
:*
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 01:53 AM
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34. Yes, yes it is.
"I have an idea. Since he's obviously been hiding the "REAL" birth certificate, how about he just shows us that? You know, not that there's a problem with this one, I just think it might be better for everyone if he would show a REAL one."

One of the better parodies/impersonations of a freeper I've seen lately.

:P
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 01:26 AM
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32. He should send his birth cert with a note

Suck on this bitches!
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 01:39 AM
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33. Thank you for your concern
I see you bringing concerns from the right here frequently. Did you see the Colbert piece on Acorn today? Wasn't that you that had questions recently about them as well?

(and a belated Welcome to DU.)
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 02:13 AM
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35. NO FUCKING WAY unless
all elected officials have to show proof that they were either born here or citizenship papers so we know they're really Americans.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 03:06 AM
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36. He should invite ALL the birthers and tea baggers to the white house...
and the CEOs and top officers of the major banks, insurance companies, oil companies, big pharma, and assorted right wing talk show idiots, plus the freeper base that supports these assholes...

and arrest them all for treason, sell all their assets and use the money to pay down our deficit.

After all, those FEMA camps were built for a REASON.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 04:04 PM
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39. FUCK THAT NOISE
Obama shouldn't give them the time of day.

And suggesting he should makes you WORSE than them, IMO.
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