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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:14 PM
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LAX parking lot is home away from home for airline workers

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lax-colony20-2009jul20,0,4549617.story
From the Los Angeles Times

LAX parking lot is home away from home for airline workers
Buffeted by their industry's turbulence, airline employees save money by living part time in a motor home colony at LAX.
By Dan Weikel

July 20, 2009

For about 15 days a month, Alaska Airlines pilot Jim Lancaster lives in a motor home in Parking Lot B near the southernmost runway at Los Angeles International Airport. Every four minutes, a jetliner or turboprop roars in -- 500 feet above his front door -- for a landing. The noise is so loud it forces Lancaster to pause during conversations. But he doesn't mind. Lancaster puts up with the smell of jet fuel and screaming engines to save time and money. The 60-year-old aviator's primary residence is a cottage he shares with his wife overlooking a quiet bay off Puget Sound in Washington state. Living in Lot B while he's on duty means he doesn't have to rent a Los Angeles apartment with other pilots or spend 12 hours a day commuting to and from the Seattle area.

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He isn't the only one. Lancaster's 2001 Tradewinds sits among 100 trailers and motor homes that form a colony of pilots, mechanics and other airline workers at LAX, the third-busiest airport in the nation. They are citizens of one of the most unusual communities in the United States. Their turf, just east of the Proud Bird restaurant off Aviation Boulevard, is less than 3,500 feet from the south runway. It is a drab expanse of crumbling gray asphalt, approach lights, chain-link fencing and rows of beige and white RVs -- some battered, others grand. A splash of color comes from the red and white blooms of about a dozen rose bushes along the colony's northern edge. Many of the residents are separated from spouses, children and significant others for days -- even weeks -- at a time in order to keep their jobs or move up the pyramid of the airline industry.

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For several years, clusters of RVs were scattered around the airport's parking lots until LAX officials decided to consolidate them in Lot B. Now operating as an organized camp overseen by the airport, it has an unofficial mayor, a code of conduct and residency requirements, including background checks, regular vehicle inspections and proof of employment at an air carrier.. Today, the colony has more than 100 residents -- mostly men -- from around the country, including captains, first officers, mechanics, flight attendants, support staff and employees of air cargo companies. There are at least two married couples, who work as flight attendants. About 10 people are on a waiting list.

Lot B's attractiveness is partly the result of the decade-long decline in air travel brought about by the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the outbreak of SARS -- severe acute respiratory syndrome -- in 2003 and the deepest recession since World War II. Salaries for pilots, mechanics and other airline workers have plummeted. Captains like Lancaster have been demoted to first officer, losing hard-earned seniority and forcing them out of plum assignments at airports close to home. Lancaster, who came to LAX from Seattle about 18 months ago, estimates that his reduction in rank cost him about $30,000 a year, roughly 20% of his pay. Rather than quit their jobs or uproot their families for what could be a temporary stint in Los Angeles, workers have settled in Lot B, where the rent is only $60 a month.

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There's another advantage to not commuting -- whether by plane or car -- when on duty: Pilots and mechanics can get more rest, mitigating a problem that has plagued airline workers for decades. An ongoing federal investigation indicates that fatigue could have been a factor in the crash of a Colgan Air turboprop that killed 50 people in Buffalo, N.Y., on Feb. 12. The pilot was commuting from Tampa, Fla., to Colgan's base in New Jersey. The copilot had regularly traveled from Seattle. According to the National Transportation Safety Board, 93 of Colgan's 137 New Jersey-based pilots considered themselves commuters, including 49 who traveled more than 400 miles and 29 who lived more than 1,000 miles away.

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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:18 PM
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1. There's a trailor park outside of Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam that I would mind living at
I've been there in Holland. It's very nice, with a gentle stream flowing past some nice lots.

I'm sure, however, that this lot in LA has nothing on it's Dutch counterpart
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:25 PM
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2. Those living in Lot B at LAX are not too far from...
the Pacific Ocean, fine restaurants and a variety of activities, including the Lakers
Training Center(if they can get in there).


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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 07:58 PM
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3. Do they pay rent? Isn't it a public airport? Who does the honey dew pumping?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:24 PM
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4. Yes, the rent is $60 a month (nt)
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:29 PM
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5. below the airport is Dockweiler Beach, where I used to see lots of RVs ..
Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 10:34 PM by kwassa
in the parking lot. Right on the ocean. Aside from the noise, it is all close to lots of attractions and great restaurants.

and there is a trailer park right on the beach in Malibu. Hard to believe with the land values there, but there it is.

edit to add: Mr. Google tells me that this Dockweiler RV park costs $45 A DAY!

Malibu is $2260 a month.

Airport is a very good deal after all.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:05 PM
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6. Looks like this is the spot (Wikimapia link)
Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 11:09 PM by A HERETIC I AM
http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=33.9369825&lon=-118.3711571&z=19&l=b

Zoom out a bit and you can see how close to the runway it is.

Might be this spot...just a little north (maybe 300 yards) of the other lot.
http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=33.9393791&lon=-118.3724579&z=19&l=0&m=b
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 04:01 PM
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7. Wow! Never heard of Wikimapia..
I think that the first link is the one. Pretty crowded. The second may be some remnant before the airport decided to consolidate them.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 04:26 PM
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8. It's a pretty cool site. Some of the pictures can be quite old, however.
They share and/or get their photos from the same source as Google Earth and some of them are 3 or more years old. Others are quite recent.

An example is the Ocean Liner Norway (formerly the SS France) is shown docked in Bremerhaven, Germany.

http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=53.5656368&lon=8.5601091&z=16&l=0&m=b

It hasn't been there since sometime in 2005 and has now been completely cut up and scrapped in Alang, India.
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