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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:57 PM
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White supremacist leader says half of his group has served in the military
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=63672

By Kevin Baron, Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Saturday, July 11, 2009
PREVIOUS STORY: Watchdog group says dozens of active-duty troops found on neo-Nazi site

WASHINGTON — The leader of the white supremacist National Socialist Movement estimated Friday that half of his group’s membership has at one time served in the military.

A day earlier, the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups, identified 40 profiles of individuals claiming to be active members of the military on newsaxon.org, a social networking Web site run by the NSM. A review of the site by Stars and Stripes found at least 130 profiles of members who claim to be in the military, though none of their identities and military affiliations has been confirmed.

“I think it’s an extreme left-wing scare tactic, and I think white soldiers have the same right to be in the military as everyone else does,” said Jeff Schoep, leader of the National Socialist Movement. “I think the SPLC is trying to pressure the military to throw these people out, and there is no basis for it. I think its un-American. I think it’s seditious.”

Morris Dees, co-founder of SPLC, said in a briefing at the National Press Club on Friday that groups like Schoep’s prize the military experience and the skills it provides servicemembers.

“These people are prime targets for recruitment by the radical right,” Dees said.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 01:02 PM
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1. K&R
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 01:58 PM
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2. and the other half are recruited from prisons?
Sort of like the folks who supported this guy?

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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:05 PM
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5. If you did a Venn, I'm sure you'd get a pretty good overlap. n/t
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 03:08 PM
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10. I think he means black "gangbangers". It's fun to bring up black folks whenever white folks...
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 03:09 PM by BlooInBloo
are cast in a bad light.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 03:34 PM
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11. No, I meant Aryan White Supremacist prison gangs
White folks don't need any help being cast into a bad light, given these folks
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 03:37 PM
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12. Thanks for the correction.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 06:59 PM
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15. To be clear, I meant that most of the military in these groups were
probably also very familiar with the UMCJ.

It would not surprise me if many of these soldiers were DD, or had otherwise spent time in the brig.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:01 PM
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3. The Kiss Army isn't really the military
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:03 PM
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4. No Basis?
How about the UCMJ? IIRC, belonging to a hate group is illegal under the UCMJ.

-Hoot
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:08 PM
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6. National Socialist Movement? Why would Nazi lovers want to serve in the military?
By serving they are protecting the Constitution and the social contract that purports to provide equal rights to all. If they were true to their beliefs, they would start their own SS, their own private military. Boasting that the membership of a Nazi organization has served in the military is admitting that they served under false pretenses and lied when they gave their oath to defend and protect the Constutition when they were recruited.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 04:41 PM
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14. They go there for the training
and all the weapons and explosives they can steal.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:17 PM
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7. Ethnic gangs are active in the military and rumored to encourage members to enlist to receive
valuable training.
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Blue For You Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 02:32 PM
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8. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Taxpayers should cut off
the military benefits from these terrorists. Screw them.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 03:07 PM
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9. A bunch of paranoid racists with extreme knowledge of weaponry
Nothing to worry about there.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 04:36 PM
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13. ...which means the half ot them have not. There are a lot of people
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 04:37 PM by old mark
who serve in the military who are not weapons experts.
And I somehow doubt his honesty.

mark

ADDED: there are probably as many "weapons experts" here as there are in the National Socialists, and probably as many former military as well...
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