You know I just had a thought. You know all those Masonic videos..

[Joanne98]

The ones about the evil Freemasons and the Illuminati that doesn't exists. I've always wondered who started those CT's. I was thinking I bet it's "The Family".

The Family's principles are the opposite of Masons. Masons believe in the Enlightenment. Equality and Democracy. They have always had enemies of people who believe in Kingships and Aristocratic rule.

If the Family goes back 70 years it seems to be that they would be a major "people of interest" in sprewing out anti-Mason propaganda.

I have an uncle who's a Mason. I think I'm going to run this by him and see what he thinks.

I know the Mason's don't have much power anymore but I know they are always interested in finding the source to all the conspiracy theories. Maybe we can get a good fight going.

[Sanity Claws]

1. Interesting theory

I'd love to know what they've been involved with over the years.

[eShirl]

2. it goes back further than that

here's an example I found in a few seconds
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonic_Party

The Anti-Masonic Party was formed in upstate New York in 1828.

Some people feared the Freemasons, believing they were a powerful secret society that was trying to rule the country in defiance of republican principles. These opponents came together to form a political party after the Morgan affair convinced them the Masons were murdering their opponents. This key episode was the mysterious disappearance, in 1826, of William Morgan (1774-1826?), a Freemason of Batavia, New York, who had become dissatisfied with his lodge and intended to publish a book detailing the secrets of the freemasons. When his intentions became known to the lodge, an attempt was made to burn down the publishing house. Finally in September 1826 Morgan was arrested on charges of petty larceny. Someone paid his debt and upon his release he was seized by parties and taken to Fort Niagara, after which he disappeared.<1>

The event created great excitement and led many to believe that not just the local lodge but all Freemasonry was in conflict with good citizenship. Because judges, businessmen, bankers, and politicians were often Masons, ordinary citizens began to think of it as an elitist group. Moreover, many claimed that the lodges' secret oaths bound the brethren to favor each other against outsiders, in the courts as well as elsewhere. Because the trial of the Morgan conspirators was mishandled, and the Masons resisted further inquiries, many New Yorkers concluded that Masons "controlled key offices and used their official authority to promote the goals of the fraternity. When a member sought to reveal its 'secrets', so ran the conclusion, they had done away with him, and because they controlled the officials, were capable of obstructing the investigation. If good government was to be restored all Masons must be purged from public office" <2>. They considered the Masons to be an exclusive organization taking unfair advantage of common folk and violating the essential principles of democracy. True Americans, they said, had to organize and defeat this conspiracy.

[Joanne98]

8. It was probably Wall Street. lol

[eShirl]

10. ?

[AntiFascist]

3. It's possible...

I believe in the 19th century there was Protestant propaganda circulated about freemasonry being "the synagogue of Satan" and they even formed the anti-masonic political party. Much of the "satanic" symbolism associated with freemasonry may simply be in protest of religious tyranny.

Benjamin Franklin was a prominent member of a Paris Rosicrucian lodge.

[Joanne98]

5. I guess the beginning of the propaganda goes back to the French revolution.

Nobody ever did figure out who wrote the Protocols of Zion but I think it was the Russian Czar's people.

That was the beginning of the anti-Mason smear.

Either way these two groups have the exact opposite principles.

[Joanne98]

9. So was George Washington.

[juno jones]

4. I was a 'temple brat'.

Grew up in a family of 'em.

I'd love to know who to blame the 'scary masons' meme on.

I get tired of having to explain to otherwise intelligent people that, "No, they don't perform NWO satanic masses and baby sacrifice as a part of their rituals".

I also have belonged to the Job's Daughters, White Shrine and Eastern Star.

My spiritual path embraces my masonic heritage, fully delving into Rosicrucianism, Golden Dawn and western kaballah.

Have I scared the pants off anyone yet? Gonna unrec this some more, you cowardly trolls?

I'd be more scared of Opus Dei and the Dominionists. All we want is life, light, love and liberty which is diametrically opposed to fascism and theocracy.

[ret5hd]

6. martyr much?

:eyes:

[juno jones]

13. That really wasn't the point, sorry if that's how you percieved it.

I'll just go back to my Moloch-worship now, one of the babies is crawling out of the brazier as we speak.

[Joanne98]

7. I have Mason's on both sides of my family. I have an Aunt who belongs to

Eastern Star. The CT's are vicious lies and I'd like to know who's responsible too. I think we may have just found out.

[woo me with science]

11. Not sure how it started, but it's definitely perpetuated by recovered memory groups and therapists.

Many people who get involved in recovered memory therapy or groups choose Masons and other secret societies as possible culprits for their imagined ritual abuse.

There is a lot of competition in recovered memory circles to be among the most severely abused, and most survivors at some point begin to imagine abuse outside the family in some sort of ritual setting. Satanic cults, pedophile rings, or government mind control projects are the most commonly chosen culprits, and the Masons are often fingered specifically. I often have seen survivors questioning one another about relatives involved in Freemasonry in order to learn more about the societies and in what situations the abuse might have occurred.


Googling "Masonic" and "satanic ritual abuse" together yields 11,400 hits on Google: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Masonic%22++%22...


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[woo me with science]

12. Typical discussions among recovered memory "Survivors":

I did just a very quick search and was immediately able to find a couple of references to Masonic abuse on "Survivor" websites.

The first link shows "Survivors" looking for evidence of abuse in DVD cases, doodles, and reactions to sounds. The second poster in the thread suggests Masonic involvement:

http://www.twhj.org/discus/messages/65/20819.html



Here's another one. In this case, the recovered memory therapist has directly suggested Masonic involvement:

http://dissociativeidentitydisordersupportforum.yuku.com/reply/418/t/A-sound-very-triggering-be-safe.html#reply-418


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