" Was The CIA Hiding Cheney's "Executive Assassination Ring"?

[Me.]

Was The CIA Hiding Cheney's "Executive Assassination Ring?

“The revelation from seven Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee that they were misled about a critical CIA program has sparked a debate that touches on the most sensitive areas of national security policy. What program, exactly, was being kept secret?

No one is answering the question, citing the sensitivities that come when discussing classified intelligence matters. But in various conversations with sources on and off the Hill, two general theories have emerged. The first is that the CIA was keeping quiet about the use of waterboarding on terrorist suspects. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said she was misled by the intelligence agency on that very subject. It's also the story told to the Huffington Post by a source with knowledge of the letter the seven House Democrats penned to CIA chief Leon Panetta, in which they complained about being misled.

But the dates don't line up. In their letter, the lawmakers note that members of Congress were "misled" for "a number of years, from 2001 to this week." Pelosi, however, contended that the CIA lied to her about the use of harsh interrogation techniques during the fall of 2002.” Cont…

““So what are the "significant actions" that these seven lawmakers insist were kept from Congress? Another theory being bandied about concerns an "executive assassination ring" that was allegedly set up and answered to former Vice President Dick Cheney. The New Yorker's Seymour Hersh, building off earlier reporting from the New York Times, dropped news of the possibility that such a ring existed in a March 2009 discussion sponsored by the University of Minnesota.” Cont…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/09/was-the-cia-hiding-cheney_n_228864.html

[libertypirate]

1. Ding Ding Ding - I think we have a winner. /nt

[L. Coyote]

25. TORTURE.

[libertypirate]

35. The already said it wasn't torture

this was a previously undisclosed program.

[Piewhacket]

34. Maybe, but I have doubt. I think it is something very bad and very illegal related to surveillance.

[libertypirate]

41. Perhaps prior to having a target whacked there was illegal surveillance /nt

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

2. Dungeon?

:thumbsup:

[Sanity Claws]

3. Domestic spying?

[JDPriestly]

29. We knew that was happening.

The wiretapping of "terrorists" was a cover for spying on political opponents is my best guess.

[Piewhacket]

36. Maybe. Nixon stuff. I think its worse. You wouldn't want to underestimate the CIA, right?

[Me.]

4. More From The Article

"It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently," Hersh said. "They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. They did not report to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff or to Mr. Gates, the secretary of defense. They reported directly to him. ...

"Congress has no oversight of it," he added. "It's an executive assassination ring essentially, and it's been going on and on and on. Just today in the Times there was a story that its leaders, a three star admiral named McRaven, ordered a stop to it because there were so many collateral deaths. Under President Bush's authority, they've been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That's been going on, in the name of all of us."

[Myrina]

31. ... "thats been going on, in the name of all of us", for a long long time ...

... Dick didn't dream this up on Jan 21, 2001. He's been in gov't and operating behind the scenes with some unsavory characters for decades. I'm quite sure this wasn't a spot-decision for him.

[RandomThoughts]

5. I would guess some of the stuff they think on are based on doctrines of existence

There are some indications that parts of that community believe in things that are not true, things that are deceptions to create despair.

Hard to explain them, well, because they create despair, but many people believe them.

Proof of the supernatural is a good example, but many times their are people that try to understand it in normal ways or even worse ways. In that a deception occurs that leads to despair, so they hide the supernatural to keep others from their same despair. But when you see the supernatural through faith in God, it is really wonderful.

I would guess Cheney spent all his time in his metal bunker because he believed in mind waves from some natural source. Sounds funny, but many people make stuff up like that to try and explain things to themselves. I think his bunker was his tin foil hat.

I understand people believe differently, and many would say my belief in God, to them is the same thing, but in my experiences the false doctrines have been disproved by logic and rational thought. Although there are 100s of false doctrines and derivatives of doctrines that try and get people to despair.

[Me.]

6. If There Is Anything The Last 8 Years Should've Taught Us

It's that nothing is out of the realm of possibility. There was a thread here some days ago that was about some of the experiments the CIA tried, like using hypnotism to train assassins. And yes, the CIA has been rumored to have dabbled in 'psychic' experiments. Heaven and earth Horatio.

[KoKo]

7. K&R

[robertpaulsen]

8. Kicked recommended and bookmarked. Thanks Me!

:kick:

[Me.]

9. Hey There RP

Thanks

[ControlledDemolition]

10. The CIA had to have known about it! If not, how incompetent would they have to have been? n/t

[libertypirate]

11. Who is in charge of telling congress?

I wouldn't want to be the guy tattling on the VP disturbed enough to keep killers on call.

You talk as though we live in an open democracy.

[ControlledDemolition]

12. Cheney's assassination squad provided the CIA with plausible deniability. n/t

[libertypirate]

14. That is just a fancy way of saying Cheney thinks he can't get caught and

it would be the CIA's fault if he did. It would still be nice if history regarded Dick as the scourge on our country and the world he has been his entire existence. He is a pathetic fraction of a soul that deserves to have his own monster turn on him.

[ControlledDemolition]

15. 'Plausible deniabilty' is a CIA term, as is, 'terminate with extreme prejudice'.

Regarding your comments on Cheney, I agree a zillion percent. It's people like Cheney that make me want to believe that there is in fact an 'afterlife' and a 'hell' .

(Edit: Fix typo.)

[libertypirate]

17. As the name "Cental Intelligence Agency" turns out is plausible deniability for breaking the laws of

foreign countries.

[ControlledDemolition]

20. So very true. To me, CIA stands for 'Criminals In Action'. n/t

[loudsue]

27. Foreign countries my ass! What about Wellstone?

That's one plane wreck that NEVER should have happened. Even if MIHOP of 9/11 is too much for some people, Wellstone was obvious to even non-politically inclined people I spoke with.

[libertypirate]

28. That might be the straw which breaks this thing wide open.

However the likely reality is that gig was contracted out to Dicks friends from afar.

[Me.]

19. I Think That Just Like With McNamara

The truth about Cheney will eventually come out and be told.

[valerief]

32. Yep. That's what happens when the Mafia runs the country. nt

[Hutzpa]

13. This is the ring that got most

of the Democrats scared shitless......now we know.

The question is, how can the government get rid of
this secret organization? I'm baffled....Cheney is
really a sadistic man.

[loudsue]

44. They've already got enough to lock his ass up. THAT is where

they should start. Arrest him and throw him in the slammer.

[Wednesdays]

16. K&R

:kick:

[troubledamerican]

18. CIA? Why not NSA, DIA, DOD, and rogue CIA players?

By many accounts, Cheney/Rumsfeld were not getting full cooperation from at least some CIA. They were intransigent.

Plamegate runs deep. Deeper than Brewster-Jennings.

And overlooked or forgotten on DU is Blackwater/Xe's FULL-SCALE REPLICA OF LANGLEY -- see Jeremy Scahill.

Why would Blackwater need a full-scale replica of CIA headquarters?

That's the stuff paramilitary coups d'etat are made of.

[leveymg]

22. You're right, and Cheney didn't start this unit. In the '50s, Corson belonged to a DoD hit squad

William Corson, who later partnered with intelligence writer Joe Trento,admits that he was part of a special Pentagon unit that in 1955 came within moments of assassinating Chinese leader Zhoi Enlai. There were several attempts on Zhoi, including a bombing of an Air India charter, reportedly carried out by mixed units of Taiwanese and American intelligence officers. In 1977, William Corson, a retired U.S. Marine Corps intelligence officer who served in Asia, published "Armies of Ignorance," in which he detailed the operation.

As for Blackwater/Xe's mockup of Langley, that is certainly worth following up on. Thanks.

[H2O Man]

23. Valid point.

Thanks.

[leveymg]

24. Howdie, H2O Man.

Been kinda scarce around here, lately. How are you?

[H2O Man]

26. Hello!

How are you? Things are generally well here. I've been keeping myself busy -- at least by my standards -- on a few projects that tend to keep me away from DU.

[leveymg]

39. Me too. Some of my projects

lately actually involve gainful employment. ;-)

Gotta keep the big, bad wolf away. And all of his friends.

[Senator]

21. K&+R

[BuyingThyme]

30. Since it was not shared with Congress, maybe it's not legally secret.

And anybody who finds out about it can share it with us mere citizens.

[Piewhacket]

33. I have two words for ye. "Pentagon Papers".

If you find out the "secret" then blab your damn head off!!!

[seafan]

37. It's a safe wager that Richard B. Cheney is closely involved.

Was The CIA Hiding Cheney's "Executive Assassination Ring"?

By Sam Stein
July 9, 2009

The revelation from seven Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee that they were misled about a critical CIA program has sparked a debate that touches on the most sensitive areas of national security policy. What program, exactly, was being kept secret?

No one is answering the question, citing the sensitivities that come when discussing classified intelligence matters.

.....

((((It isn't waterboarding.)))

And in a conversation with the Huffington Post, Rep. Anna Eshoo, (D-Calif.), one of the letter's signatories, said that Panetta "stopped the program the day after he was informed." Waterboarding was ended as a practice during the Bush years.

So what are the "significant actions" that these seven lawmakers insist were kept from Congress? Another theory being bandied about concerns an "executive assassination ring" that was allegedly set up and answered to former Vice President Dick Cheney. The New Yorker's Seymour Hersh, building off earlier reporting from the New York Times, dropped news of the possibility that such a ring existed in a March 2009 discussion sponsored by the University of Minnesota.

"It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently," Hersh said. "They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. They did not report to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff or to Mr. Gates, the secretary of defense. They reported directly to him. ...

"Congress has no oversight of it," he added. "It's an executive assassination ring essentially, and it's been going on and on and on. Just today in the Times there was a story that its leaders, a three star admiral named McRaven, ordered a stop to it because there were so many collateral deaths. Under President Bush's authority, they've been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That's been going on, in the name of all of us."

Asked if this was the basis of her letter to Panetta, Eshoo said she could not discuss what was a "highly classified program." She did, however, note that when Panetta told House Intelligence Committee members what it was that had been kept secret, "the whole committee was stunned, even Republicans." A Republican committee member told Who Runs Gov's Greg Sargent it was something they hadn't heard before.

And let's not forget Cheney's "stay-behinds", likely at the CIA, digging the black hole burying the truth. Clean it out, Mr. President.




If these secret actions were deliberately hidden from Congress, that would indicate outright defiance of the US Constitution.


"Classified" claims must not be used to conceal crimes committed by the Bush administration.




Once again, sweeping massive crimes by a previous administration under the rug will guarantee a more virulent resurgence at a later date.

[Me.]

38. Good Additions

[pleah]

40. K&R

Bookmarked.

[Generic Other]

42. What about the bioweapons researchers who kept dying?

No one has really ever explained the whole anthrax business.

[earcandle]

43. Befitting of Cheney, we have a song not yet released.

heard it yet?

http://www.earcandleproductions.com/Atlas_Wept.swf

I wonder if he is responsible for Kucinich's three siblings
deaths.

Or for making that JetBlue plane shoot straight up and then
down before crashing and killing a key 2001 witness.

Or for a long list of fabulous people including Lennon,
Jackson, Wellstone and the Kennedy family.