Nine-Year-Old Helps Catch Molestation Suspect

[Kadie]

Jul 8, 2009 10:08 pm US/Pacific

Nine-Year-Old Helps Catch Molestation Suspect
Exclusive: Suspect Admits To Exposing Himself To Victim

VACAVILLE, Calif. (CBS13) ― A quick-thinking nine-year-old girl led authorities to an alleged predator who admitted to assaulting a young girl behind a strip mall.

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"He lured her over there by saying, 'This is something Hanna Montana does,'" the victim's mother said.

The nine-year-old friend immediately knew something was wrong: "I knew something bad was going to happen because he was a stranger and he was saying to close your eyes."

The victim cried out for help when she was attacked, and her friend quickly came up with a story to get away from the suspect.

"I lied on purpose, and I said I was going to go and put the jump rope away so he wouldn't know," she said.

She immediately ran to get the victim's mother. Police say Kattan got scared and ran away, but police caught up with him within minutes.

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The victim's mother says if it wasn't for her daughter's friend, she knows something much worse could have happened to her little six-year-old girl.

"I owe her, I owe her for the rest of my life," the victim's mother said.

For her part, the young hero says she is happy she was able to help.

"I feel very good about that too, that she is okay and she wasn't stolen or anything," the nine-year-old friend said.

more...
http://cbs13.com/crime/child.stops.molestation.2.1077727.html

[redqueen]

1. When can we start putting these people away for life...

after the first offense?

[snooper2]

2. death penalty after 2 offenses

period

[Warpy]

3. While I probably have more reason to hate this crime

than you do, I can't see the state sanctioned murder of my fellow citizens as the answer.

Something has to be done about rogue males with sexually loose screws.

The answer might be castration with closely supervised parole versus incarceration in an institution for the criminally insane. The closely supervised parole would monitor for anabolic steroid abuse that overcomes the effects of castration.

We have to get these guys off the street and make sure they're not out there destroying kids. We don't have to become savages, ourselves, in the process.

[TygrBright]

4. Not even anabolic steroid use can overcome the effects of REAL castration.

As in: CUTTING IT OFF.

I think in some extreme cases such surgery might be justified.

I am not arguing for it to be applied lightly or routinely, nor am I claiming a deterrent effect or any of that other troglodyte BS. But I think that if someone demonstrates, repeatedly, that he thinks of it as a weapon, and will use it as a weapon, and will not be deterred by any other means, society needs to take the weapon away altogether.

extremely,
Bright

[Warpy]

8. Oh, hell, honey

I also suggest deballing serial fathers who refuse to support any of their offspring (well, at least snipping them).

Rapists are another matter, entirely, though. The rage they display can only be cured by singulotomy and nobody is brave enough to suggest that--besides, we probably don't know enough about the limbic system yet to do it effectively.

Equally extremely, Warpy

[TygrBright]

12. I wasn't talking about deballing.

Although that would undoubtedly be part of the package in some cases. I was talking about ensuring that they have to sit down to pee for the rest of their lives.

I think the operation is called "Bobbitting."

Like I say, if they persist in thinking of it as a weapon or a tool to enforce their will on others, that weapon or tool, in the last resort, should be removed.

clarifyingly,
Bright

[CoffeeCat]

5. Pedophiles are horrendously complex...

I certainly don't know everything about pedophiles, but I do have some insight. My own therapist, who counsels
me as a victim of childhood sexual abuse, also leads group therapy--and what I have gleaned from his expertise really is chilling.

Again, I don't know everything--and not all pedophiles are cookie-cutter individuals--but from what
I understand--the desire to sexually abuse a child is really not about sexual desire. These people
want to DESTROY children. It is not about "love" or "attraction" as the NAMBLA sickos will tell you.
That's their rationalization and denial talking.

They do "desire" children, but the desire stems from wanting to shred their innocence, inflict trauma
onto them and power up on a child to make themselves feel some kind of control. Pedophiles are so
lily-livered and such weak individuals--and they don't mesh well in society or with other adults. This
enrages them and makes them feel inadequate, and powering up on children is one situation where they
feel in control. They get a high from obtaining that control. Sexual control does the most damage--and
they know it.

Pedophiles are haunted by their own self loathing and hatred--and they can't stand that children possess goodness,
confidence and joy that they just do not experience.

Sorry to drone on and on here--but it's just my opinion that castration would not work on these types. It's
a psychological problem that takes years and years to develop--and their thinking is just so distorted, bizarre
and filled with layers of denial and delusional thinking.

I could tell you stories about what these people have done---and how they rationalize it--that would sicken you.
That's one reason my therapist does these group sessions. He does them on his own time, on a Saturday--for no pay, because
he has told me that it really is the only way to get them to see how bizarre their thinking is.

Therapist has told me that it if you have a convicted pedophile (with multiple child witnesses, even photographic evidence), it
usually takes two to three years before they even admit that they did anything wrong. It's just an insidious psychological
mess that is like emotional cancer inside of these people.

I was sexually abused as a child, and it took about four years of very intense therapy to process everything. I know my own
recovery was so complex, painful and layered with denial. It was so hard to get at the anger, sorrow and rage--because when
these crimes happen to you as a child--you build layers of denial to protect you from totally losing it. I never grew up
to be a perpetrator---and it took me several years of therapy to get over being a victim. Pedophiles are far worse off because
they're offenders--they have to deal with their own trauma and the fact that they're now monsters. I just can't even imagine
the amount of energy and psychological expertise it would take to unravel that mountain. It's really staggering to think about.

Those are my thoughts...just thought I'd share. As horrific at the subject is--I think they only way we will decrease these
horrible crimes is by understanding the complexities of these offenders so we can treat them. My answer is long-term, very
intensive psychotherapy.

[Warpy]

9. Therapy alone has a pretty dismal success rate

and the recidivism rate among pedophiles is very high once the behavior has become established.

Add it to a deballing, though, and those men might be able to lead productive lives outside institutional walls.

It provides meaningful changes in both recidivism probability and quality of life.

[RaleighNCDUer]

6. Castration would be totally ineffective. This is a disease of the brain, not

the hormones. Molesters would still molest, and rapists still attempt to rape if castrated - a great many of them are sexually impotent as it is.

The only answer is separation from general society - minimum security prison, even campus-like grounds and ankle monitors to let the authorities know if they stray from the reservation. The vast majority could be productive citizens if they didn't have something wrong in their heads, so give them an alternate society where there are no children and let them live out their lives there.

[Warpy]

7. Castration results in testosterone depletion

which results in low to no sexual desire. Unlike rape, child molestation depends on the sex drive. The desire isn't to humiliate the child, the men usually rationalize what they're doing to children as awakening them and other sick but pious fantasies. Remove the drive, remove the problem.

Rape is a crime of violence, domination and humiliation driven by a deep hatred of all women (or men).

I do agree that allowing them to live out their lives in a facility is a viable alternative to castration. State sanctioned murder is not.

[RaleighNCDUer]

10. See post #5 above - most child molestation is NOT about sex, it

is about DESIRE. The neediness would still be there, even without the sexual urge. Long term intensive psychotherapy, and separation from children, is the only rational response.

And I agree with you, that state sanctioned murder is not a viable alternative.

[Warpy]

11. Actually, it is, they don't think they're destroying the child

but awakening him/her. The sexual loose screw makes them desire children sexually, not as objects to be humiliated and destroyed.

I've worked enough psych to know that much. The rationalizations these men go through to justify the agony they put a terrified and screaming child through is incredible. I've certainly heard enough of it.

Getting through to them that they're actually destroying these children is the hardest part. It's not their aim. If it were, the denial wouldn't be so great.