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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 07:23 AM
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Key Reason Palin Gave For Quitting May Be False
Source: The Plum Line

Key Reason Palin Gave For Quitting May Be False

One of the chief reasons Sarah Palin has given for resigning as Governor of Alaska is that her state’s taxpayers are being forced to spend money defending her government against ethics complaints that would otherwise fund teachers, cops, and road repair.

But in response to our questions, a spokesperson for the Alaska governor’s office just gave us new information that casts serious doubt on this assertion. The revelation makes the resignation episode even stranger, and raises fresh questions about the real reasons for her abrupt departure.

During her resignation speech last week, Palin presented herself as a heroic defender of the taxpayer. She said that money being spent on government lawyers to defend against these “frivolous ethics violations” could be “going to things that are very important, like troopers and roads and teachers and fish research.” Palin repeated exactly the same point this week.

But David Murrow, a spokesperson for the Governor, said in an interview that much of this money was budgeted to the lawyers in advance and would have gone to them anyway, even if state lawyers hadn’t been defending against these ethics complaints.

Read more: http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/republican-party/key-reason-palin-gave-for-quitting-appears-to-be-false/
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dalaigh lllama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 07:29 AM
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1. She probably got her data from the Department of Law
IOW, pulled it right out of her...dead fish. :crazy:
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 07:41 AM
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5. Department of Law!!!!!
:crazy: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I think the job has truly overwhelmed her!
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 07:44 AM
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6. Alaska does have a Department of Law. (nt)
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:05 AM
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10. I called Alaska, and the Department of Bullshit told me there is indeed a Department of Law ! ! !
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:12 AM
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12. But does the Dept. of Bullshit have a nifty website??
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dalaigh lllama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:45 AM
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20. I stand corrected. DU is a great place to be progressin' my knowledge
:D

Wonder why they didn't save her from all the frivolity of the media lookin' in her windows.
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 09:26 PM
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40. The State of Alaska has a Department of Law, but the Federal Government does not.
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 09:28 PM by Pool Hall Ace
"I think on a national level your Department of Law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out." --Sarah Palin, referring to a department that does not exist while attempting to explain why as president she wouldn't be subjected to the same ethics investigations that compelled her to resign as governor of Alaska, ABC News interview, July 7, 2009

edited to add quote from about.com website.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 02:40 PM
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34. Her dead fish....
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 02:41 PM
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36. Double. Sorry.
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 02:45 PM by No Elephants
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 07:33 AM
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2. She just makes shit up, then plays the victim when called on it
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 07:34 AM
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3. The Republicans don't care
They don't care if she lies or if she is dumb as a bag of hammers. The only care if she looks good and makes those awful liberals angry.

Hell, there is an article today that says her resignation didn't hurt her popularity among the GOP one bit. The stupid hurts.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 07:56 AM
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8. As the owner of several hammers - I object to your metaphor of "dumb as a bag of hammers"
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 08:31 AM by yellowcanine
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:07 AM
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11. SARAH PALIN.... Nailed again!
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:29 AM
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18. Sorry to offend hammerists
I correct that statement to read, "Dumb as a bag of rocks"

:D
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:49 AM
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21. Ok, now my pet rock
is offended. :evilgrin:
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 10:19 AM
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32. I can't win
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 10:20 AM by Stuckinthebush
Dumb as a penguin in the desert?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 09:08 AM
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27. Maybe this, instead of hammers?
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 09:16 AM by SoCalDem
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 07:35 AM
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4. You mean the Alaskan Messiah lied?
:wow: :wow:


In other new, water is wet.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 07:51 AM
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7. I will never support or vote for Palin!
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 07:57 AM
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9. Her only real supporter
is her bra.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:14 AM
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13. falsehoods from Palin? NO WAY!!! Pull the other leg will ya?
(oh yeah, that's :sarcasm: )
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:20 AM
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14. Republicans are the TRUE NIHILISTS. They DON'T care. Slap a focus-grouped label on whatever happened
and that's it, nothing left to do or understand, just repeat, repeat, repeat, never ever ever change, remain fixed in place to the END and your "virtue" will be rewarded, either in the here and now with $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, or in the hereafter with DOMINION in "God's" Kingdom on Earth.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:20 AM
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15. delete dup'e
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 08:21 AM by patrice
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InfiniteThoughts Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:24 AM
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16. has she ever spoken truth ... EVER ...
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:24 AM
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17. On a lighter note, I did hear a vocal SP supporter recently refer to "Ponzi Scheme$$$" in the Market
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:37 AM
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19. K&R #2 n/t
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braunfels Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:50 AM
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22. Dead Fish metaphor was stolen
From the title of Jim Hightower's latest book,

"Swim against the Current: Even a Dead Fish Can Go With the Flow"

I bet she doesn't even know that Jim is a Texas liberal treasure. Too bad the media didn't pick up on this and interview Hightower...he would have given us quite a treat.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:57 AM
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23. Thanks very much for posting!!! I think her current job assignment is to front the dead-fish net
for Republican bait-and-switch specialists in the back-office.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 09:02 AM
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25. P.S. You remind me that The Original Tea Party was a protest for TEA TAX DECREASES
Edited on Thu Jul-09-09 09:02 AM by patrice
not tax increases.

It would have been comparable to mom-and-pop operations publicly protesting China's Most Favored Nation trade status.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 09:04 AM
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26. It's a very well-known and popular saying
Hightower certainly didn't make it up.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 03:13 PM
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37. She took a true dead fish quote,rendered it nonsensical, then used it in her
insane and untrue resignation speech.

"Swim against the Current: Even a Dead Fish Can Go With the Flow" Hightower (correct)


Nah, only dead fish "go with the flow." Palin (nonsensical)


Sarah, dear, with a few exceptions, EVERYthing goes with the flow. That is the point of the quote you stole.





Meanwhile, when she stole this comment, she was already being criticized for plagiarizing from Newt Gingrich. Now, that's a double whammy: Plagiarizing from anyone is wrong. Plagiarizing from Newt Gingrich is wrong AND ludicrous.

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 09:21 PM
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39. Whatever one opposes, "the flow" in this case, defines its own opposition.
Contrariness is fundamentally reactionary.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 08:58 AM
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24. False? You think? nt
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 09:10 AM
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28. Great comment over there:
...Is this one of us? I recognize the compulsive research gene a mile away :D :
# WalterNeff | July 8th, 2009 at 04:46 pm

Sarah Palin believes it’s no big deal that she quit in the middle of her first term. Happens all the time, right? As it turns out—no.

On a hunch, I reviewed online lists of all the men and women who’ve been elected governor of their state since 1900. Pored over them for a few hours. Over 1200 politicians have taken that first-term oath of office. Some soon died in office. Many resigned to accept other positions in government, including Spiro Agnew who was “tapped” by Nixon after being the Governor of Maryland for about five minutes. On a handful of occasions, a first-termer was dragged off to the slammer or impeached. One was incapacitated by a nervous breakdown and one left just as impeachment came knocking on his door. So—how many out of over 1200 just up and quit before the end of their term?

Three: Jim McGreevy, Eliot Spitzer and Sarah Palin.

Can anyone say “other shoe?”
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falcon97 Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 09:39 AM
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29. It is also amazing that the supposed WH Dept of Law
would summarily reject all these ethics complaints against Palin, as she suggested.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 09:56 AM
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30. failing does it again!
she's the headlines in the news.

At the end of the day, that's all she cares about.

Are we so naive to miss that point?

however, this warmed over version of peggy hill is pinning all her hopes that by her quitting, it will be a genius move.

Um, no.

I do believe there are many more shoes to drop, but in the mind of failin, I do think that she honestly believes this is a slick move of brilliance.

Heck, she quit mid first term. She didn't even get a "one in a row" as far as a gubernatorial term.

The right can spin this all they want, but when all the cards are counted in the end, she is a quitter.

I mean honestly, if a repuke comes to you and says she is not, reply with this: If a fireman is putting out your house fire and suddenly calls it quits mid fight, isn't that a quitter? Or some guy beats the crap out of you and the arresting officer decides mid arrest to just walk away, isn't that quitting? So exactly how is an elected public servant quitting mid term a success?

After listening to Rachel Maddow this morning, there also seems to be a new talking point emerging from this whole failin mess. It seems as if failin is making the round about assertion that ethics don't matter. That the "frivolous" investigations into ethics violations, according to her, are just that.

So is this the new insanity this moron is going to try and push? that accountability, which seems to dog all repukes, is not important? if that were the case and they are successful in pushing this insanity, then they no longer have anything to worry about and the discourse in our nation plunges to 3rd world dictator level.

The repukes maybe in the political wilderness, but that doesn't mean they aren't busy building huts.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 10:04 AM
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31. TALLY: Record requests, ethics complaints, lawsuits, troopergate given price tag.
Palin says inquiries wasted 'millions'

TALLY: Record requests, ethics complaints, lawsuits, troopergate given price tag.

By SEAN COCKERHAM
scockerham@adn.com

Published: July 8th, 2009 09:34 PM
Last Modified: July 8th, 2009 11:09 PM

Gov. Sarah Palin, explaining her stunning resignation announcement, has repeatedly said attacks on her since she ran for vice president have cost state government "millions" of dollars.

"That huge waste that we have seen with the countless, countless hours that state staff is spending on these frivolous ethics violations and the millions of dollars that Alaskans are spending, that money not going to things that are very important, like troopers and roads and teachers and fish research," Palin said this week.

Palin administration officials provided the Daily News with a breakdown of what it says are $1.9 million in costs. Most if it is a per-hour accounting of the time state employees, such as state attorneys, have spent working on public records requests, lawsuits, ethics complaints, and issues surrounding the Legislature's "Troopergate" investigation last summer of Palin.

"Is it a check that we wrote, no, but is it staff hours, yes," Sharon Leighow, spokeswoman for Palin, said of the expenses related to state employee work.

Those state employees would have been paid regardless.

more:
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/858523.html
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 11:05 AM
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33. Remember, she filed an ethics charge against herself
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 02:41 PM
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35. She didn't really play basketball?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 03:24 PM
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38. To be fair, no one believed that she quit to save the state money.
If you tell a story that no one in his or her right mind could ever believe, is it really a lie?
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 10:27 PM
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41. K&R
:kick:
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-09-09 10:34 PM
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42. Can anyone point to an occasion where this ditsy person told the truth? n/t
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