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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 08:35 PM
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Justice Yemen style. Not for the squeamish
Edited on Tue Jul-07-09 08:37 PM by Liberal_in_LA
Justice Yemen-style: Paedophile who raped boy, 11, shot in the head in front of hundreds of spectators

By Tamara Cohen
Last updated at 3:14 PM on 07th July 2009

This is criminal justice, Yemen style. A man accused of raping and murdering an 11-year-old boy is paraded through his home town before being shot dead by an executioner.

Hundreds of onlookers lined the streets to watch the gruesome scene, cheering and shouting abuse at Yehya Hussein al-Raghwah.

The boy, Hamdi al-Kabas, had reportedly come into his shop for a haircut last December during the Muslim festival of Eid. After brutally attacking him, the barber cut his body into pieces and dumped them outside the capital Sana'a.

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As a police official reads out his sentence for the last time, a doctor oversees his treatment and crowds - which appear to include children - jeer and punch the air, some filming his final moment on their mobile phones.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1197900/Justice-Yemen-style-Paedophile-raped-boy-11-shot-head-hundreds-spectators.html
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 08:42 PM
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1. Here we go.
:popcorn:
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 08:42 PM
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2. A friend of mine said her dad took her to see an execution in Yemen when she was five
Her dad was a petroleum engineer working there for a time, I think. She told me she doesn't remember anything other than her dad holding her on his shoulders, but that she couldn't see the actual deed.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 08:46 PM
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3. I wonder if it's a new rug, or if they use the same one over and over
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 08:47 PM
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4. a fine punishment for a pedophile rapist and murderer
The boy, Hamdi al-Kabas, had reportedly come into his shop for a haircut last December during the Muslim festival of Eid. After brutally attacking him, the barber cut his body into pieces and dumped them outside the capital Sana'a.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 11:33 PM
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39. See, you'll fit right in to "The New World Order", which is just the same old world order
with a PR firm handling it.


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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 08:52 PM
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5. Well, as Petronius said to Nero:
"Thou wert worthy of the spectacle, and the spectacle was worthy of thee."
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:05 PM
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8. BEST post of this thread. I question the sanity of anybody who would like to go see this. -nt
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:59 PM
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31. Great quote.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 09:00 PM
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6. I see nothing wrong with it.
He raped, murdered, and butchered a child and if he got out he likely would do it again.

The argument against capital punishment in the US if often it is cheaper to keep them alive for life w/o parole but I doubt that is the case in Yemen.

a single 7.62x39mm Soviet retail price $0.10 cheaper in bulk.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:34 PM
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14. Did he really do those things?
Edited on Tue Jul-07-09 10:34 PM by Art_from_Ark
Or was he just a convenient scapegoat?

How trustworthy is the Yemeni justice system?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:41 PM
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18. We'd like to think he was the murderer.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:59 PM
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32. Who knows, the guy might have been a real-life Sweeney Todd
Of course, even in our own country when a barbarous act has occurred, the public outcry for revenge has sometimes blinded them to the actual facts of a case-- just as long as someone (preferably one of the less popular members of society) pays for the crime, they were satisfied. The Yemeni mob wanted an execution, and they got one.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 11:27 PM
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37. Don't order the Schwarma
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:44 PM
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19. See #11. -nt
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Duckhunter935 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 09:47 PM
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7. He will not do that again
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:46 PM
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22. See #11. -nt
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:11 PM
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9. At least they don't have to worry about recidivism.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:13 PM
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10. That would be accomplished with a non-public-spectacle execution, too.
Doesn't THAT bother you even a little bit?
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:30 PM
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12. No, it doesn't bother me a bit. I just take for granted that there are places where a
pedophile, rapist, murderer might get his head publicly blown off. And I really don't have a problem with it.

I just wish they'd extend that treatment to rapists and murderers in high places and not just the ones who are barbers.


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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:33 PM
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13. See #11. -nt
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 09:45 AM
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43. They don't seem to have to worry too much about basic human rights either
www.amnesty.org/en/region/yemen

The man in this story (assuming that he was in fact guilty) was a bad man - but if we deny human rights to some, even including bad people, we end up denying them to all.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:19 PM
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11. What a fucking swell place, Yemen is. Everybody who is applauding this should go live there.
From article:

"It (the death penalty) is deployed for a variety of violent and non-violent crimes including apostasy and adultery."
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:35 PM
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15. Perhaps those DUers who wish they were in the crowd would be less enthusiatic
if the guy was being executed for being gay or for adultery.

:eyes:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:37 PM
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16. And perhaps not. -nt
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:47 PM
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24. They're nothin' but a bunch of commie pinko dirtbags
Edited on Tue Jul-07-09 10:48 PM by HughMoran
{chuckles}
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:47 PM
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23. That is a very low blow, which I cannot overlook, even if you are a HughMoran.
Raping and murdering an eleven year old child somehow equates with being gay or adulterous? Now, that is just plain fucked up.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:51 PM
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28. The apologists' silence about that little detail speaks volumes.
I'll say it before and I'll say it again:

Go live there. Stay away from those hellish, evil places that refuse to mete out proper punishment, like oh, say, Sweden. Even the US is too sissy about its executions.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:51 PM
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27. bertman, you're on ignore precisely because you so completely miss the point
Edited on Tue Jul-07-09 11:10 PM by HughMoran
For those who don't understand sarcasm, it was pointed out that they execute people for a lot less than the horrible crimes this man committed.


...or do we not remember that people have been sentenced to death for a lot less in the "enlightened" Middle East?


Edit: spelling.

Oh, and bertman, you were already on ignore for other stupidity - this just verifies your inability to not fly off the handle.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 11:06 PM
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34. yes, I definitely missed the "sarcasm". But put me on ignore if you want. I could care less
if you don't want to hear anything but what you agree with.

hugh moran sounds about right.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:50 PM
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26. A lot of DUers thought Hezbollah was just a fine group of people.
Of course, if any of them told a Hezbollah commander that they were an atheist, they might have another thing coming.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:37 PM
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17. Justice? Revenge maybe.
Seems that justice would have been locking fucko up in some dank cell, letting him live in fear and misery for the rest of the days allotted him.

But, bloodthirst is what it is.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:45 PM
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20. "A man accused"
"The deeply religious desert country has a poor human rights record and it is unclear if the barber had a fair trial. "

is this justice?
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 11:03 PM
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33. Torture to obtain confessions is routine in Yemen. So the question "is this justice?"
Cannot possibly be answered by anyone. Only at the highest level of generalization can an answer be given: it's not a justice system as we know it at all. It's not intended to be.

It's not just arbitrary, it's also a private affair. Sheiks maintain their OWN private jails over there. That's right - fall afoul of the local poohbah and you could find yourself in his jail being tortured by his jailers with no way out. It's pretty much the picture of the worst medieval abuses you ever saw in an old movie.

Around the block in the much wealthier UAE, there was recently the case of Sheik Issa bin Zayed Al Nahyan who had himself filmed while he extensively and gruesomely tortured an Afghani merchant he accused of cheating him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfwMrJePa_g
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 11:09 PM
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35. So? What's your point?
You make it sound like it's bad or something.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 12:41 AM
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40. yeah I guess I did make it sound kind of bad...
Edited on Wed Jul-08-09 01:16 AM by kenny blankenship
My point is that it's impossible to have confidence in the findings of Yemeni justice. Maybe this guy was guilty as hell, maybe he was just unlucky. There's no knowing. But you can be pretty sure he "confessed". But the value of any confession is nil given the way they extract confessions.

I'd like to say that there's no point of comparison between Yemeni feudal justice and the modern Anglo-American model, but that's no longer something one can say without major qualifications. At least within the context of terrorist investigations and with some suspects we've systematically tortured people for information and confessions. I'd like to think that can't happen anymore now that Bush is gone, but given the way the new administration covers up for the old, that's probably wishful thinking. And now within the past couple of weeks we've heard of British police using waterboarding to coerce confession and information from ordinary civilian drug suspects. Torture is something a society either rejects utterly and prosecutes, or it is a method of law enforcement, just one of the tools in the policing toolbox, that you make more and more exceptions and excuses for using.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:45 PM
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21. A quick google confirms there are Freepers in that crowd.
But they aren't all freepers.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:49 PM
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25. that's fucked up
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:57 PM
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29. If they were 100% sure of guilt.....
I don't see any problem with this. Pedos are without a doubt the scum of the earth. I'd like to see every child molester in the world thrown into a pit of starving wolves.

Pedos can't be fixed, so why lock them up and feed and house them? They deserve nothing but the pit and an unmarked grave.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 10:58 PM
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30. See #11. -nt
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 11:28 PM
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38. Ok I saw it.
And? I'm talking about killing pedos. Not cheaters or members of other religions.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-07-09 11:19 PM
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36. Why do we kill people who kill people to show people that killing people is wrong?
Saw that on a bumper sticker.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 01:11 AM
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41. I don't know. It seems to me that capital punishment validates the contrary idea.
Edited on Wed Jul-08-09 01:11 AM by kenny blankenship
When you are REALLY angry with someone it's OK to kill them in order to express your righteous anger.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see capital punishment and a high murder rate keeping each other company around the world, despite that the first one is supposed to correct and cancel the second.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 09:37 AM
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42. Honestly, I would have no problem doing that to the monster who raped my disabled friend.
n/t.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-08-09 06:16 PM
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44. You, a private citizen, hunting down a criminal out of grief and anger, is undertandable.
The State doing that is not. Especially not as a public goddamn spectacle.
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