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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 07:18 AM
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mc cain:"I disagree with what the majority of the American people want". No shit.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003568551

NEW YORK Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in a '60 Minutes' segment coming on Sunday says he misspoke in comments he made about security in Baghdad earlier this week and admitted that heavily armed troops and helicopter gunships accompanied him when he visited a market there.

'60 Minutes' correspondent Scott Pelley accompanied McCain to Baghdad and then interviewed him afterward after the senator drew wide criticism.

"I'm happy, frankly, with the way I operate," McCain explained, "otherwise it would be a lot less fun."
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Continuing America's military presence in Iraq has been a key position in McCain's presidential bid. He says he knows he is out of step with the rest of the country. "I believe we can succeed and I believe that the consequences of failure are catastrophic," he tells Pelley. "I disagree with what the majority of the American people want. Failure will lead to chaos, withdrawal will lead to chaos."
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Poor ol mc cain, he just gets crazier and crazier by the day.
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dapper Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 07:22 AM
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1. He's a puppet
and Bush is pulling his strings.

Everything he does seems rehearsed, I can see right through his facade.

Dapper
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 11:09 AM
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48. A puppet? yes.
Controlled by bush? bush couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instruction were on the heel. I imagine that mc-crazy has the same puppeteers as bushler.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 07:23 AM
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2. i'm convinced that mccain is certifiably insane.
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winston61 Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 07:24 AM
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3. What a miserable failure of a douche bag-
Rove and Cheney stab him in the back and all he can do is ask for more. I did not think it was possible to be more slimy than Hillary Clinton, but I think John takes the biscuit.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 07:25 AM
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4. Well said, I agree.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 08:39 AM
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17. I dislike the idea of HRC as our nominee as much as the next person but
I'd take her over McCain any day.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 01:47 PM
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43. Au contraire, I think he's succeeded splendidly as a douchebag.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 07:45 AM
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12. Um, where did Philosoraptor mention Hillary?

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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 08:51 AM
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20. yeah, I didn't see any Hillary comment, either
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 10:00 AM
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33. see reply #3. n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 07:35 AM
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6. McCain is insane in the membrane
Way'at Philosoraptor! :hi:



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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 07:41 AM
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8. And that's why you'll never be president, Senator Asshat
:eyes:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 09:11 AM
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25. Yeah, how is that gonna work out for you, Mr. Candidate?
I mean, there's taking a principled stand such that even people who disagree with you will at least respect your position. For McCain, though, taking the contrarian position on the war in Iraq is right now a sure-fire (you should pardon the expression) way to alienate a significant bloc of voters and never retrieve them. I believe it was Henry Clay who famously said, "I would rather be right than president." McCain is and will be neither.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 07:41 AM
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9. Well, considering how orderly and benevolent the situation is now, he may have a point.
I mean, gods forbid chaos breaks out there with bombings and beheadings and whatnot.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 07:41 AM
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10. I think McCain is going senile . . . seriously. nt
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 07:45 AM
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11. vandalising logic
and loving every minute...the bastard needs some jail time (to cool his overheated brain)
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 07:47 AM
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13. McCain Thinks Americans Are Stupid
yeah, let's turn the old Conservative argument around on them. You know, they keep saying crap like "Democrats trust government with your money, Republicans think you know best" as justification for their reactionary fiscal policies.

Well, John McCain thinks the American people aren't smart enough to understand what's happening in Iraq. He thinks you're wrong. The Democrats agree with you, they think you are right.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 08:14 AM
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14. stockholm syndrome...he's been captured and tortured by the shrub administration...
and yes, I realize its happened to him before in vietnam.

I"m not disparaging vietnam POWs, I'm pointing to this particular idiot, who looks more and more all the time like a sacrificial lamb for the administration.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 08:25 AM
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15. That man needs a clue stick.
If he recognizes that he disagrees with what the majority of the American people want, then why in the sam hill does he think they will vote for him in '08?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 08:29 AM
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16. Because he's the sacrificial lamb, to lose in the primary to a more "reasonable" position
a position that still leaves us in Iraq, but sounds more deceptively more moderate.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 08:48 AM
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18. yah, that'll get you elected, McCain
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 08:49 AM
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19. Not a bad position...
and, thus, the majority of Americans will not be voting for him.

Next!
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 08:52 AM
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21. They must be giving him the same "stupid" drug they gave bush in the 90s
If you've ever seen those videos of shrub in the Texas gubernatorial debates you know what I mean. He once could complete whole sentences and make sense sometimes. Then the big turnaround. I think the same thing is happening to McCain.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 08:56 AM
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22. "Failure will lead to chaos, withdrawal will lead to chaos" and staying will lead to chaos!
ALL ROADS lead to chaos, not Rome. It's about damned time that someone declare that chaos in Iraq was guaranteed in March 2003. There is absolutely no avoidance of the fruits of the obscene folly of our illegal invasion.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 08:56 AM
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23. The American Petain
French General Petain, hero of WWI, collaborated with the Nazis in WWII,Leader of the Vichi Government, convicted of treason and exiled.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-144317835.html

No doubt, one factor in the historical verdict against Petain is that he had aligned himself at some stage with the European right. He resisted overt political identity, and his private views remained opaque. But he had been warm friends in the 1920s with General Miguel Primo de Rivera, the protofascist dictator of Spain and, as French ambassador to Spain in the following decade, had been as close to Francisco Franco as the latter's icy personality allowed.

The penultimate act of the Petain drama came in April 1945, when Petain's German minders turned him over to the Swiss, who were prepared to offer him asylum. He could have stayed in Switzerland but he insisted on returning to France for trial; and the trial was even murkier than the cloudy facts of his disgrace. The indictment skipped what to many seemed the gravest offenses of the Vichy regime and dwelt upon constitutional details: the notional treason of Petain's having assented to the self-dissolution of the National Assembly. This in itself was odd, since De Gaulle himself rejected the premise that the Third Republic had ended in 1940, and insisted that the Vichy regime was a usurpation, a "parenthesis" between lawful governments. De Gaulle, for that matter, would have been happier had his old mentor stayed in exile. The court that judged Petain for treason was an oddity--three regular judges plus 24 so-called jures, lay members chosen by lot from among representatives of the Resistance and the National Assembly. The three judges voted for acquittal. The lay members voted narrowly for the death penalty, which De Gaulle commuted. The old marshal, stripped of his dignities, lived for another six years, imprisoned on a bleak Atlantic island, and died in his 95th year.
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 08:58 AM
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24. I never did like him--he's always smelled bad.
:shrug:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 09:17 AM
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26. Is this some kind of new political maneuver...
"I disagree with what the majority of the American people want. Failure will lead to chaos, withdrawal will lead to chaos."

The fist part is sure to make "the majority of the American people", just jump up and decide to vote for him in an instant, I can see it now...

*****FLASH*****
Nov, 2008

STUNNING VICTORY FOR McCAIN

"...94% of Americans voted in the 2008 election; 96% of those voted for John McCain(R), who led his campign to victory by stating he would lead the country in a direction they were opposed to. Furthermore, McCain stated that he would put an end to chaos by actually adding more chaos in the Middle East"
*****



Jeebus...is this an ONION story?????...:D
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 09:22 AM
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27. A shell of a man, as profiled brilliantly by Will Pitt on the Greatest Page this morning.
MKJ
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 09:24 AM
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28. McLame is beyond being a FLIP FLOPPER...He is FLIPPED
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 09:32 AM
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29. Everyone who wants another publican *resident who doesn't listen to the people, raise your hand.
*** crickets ****





































Stop wasting your campaign money, John. It's over.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 09:35 AM
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30.  I don't understand his logic - he wants voters to elect him to NOT represent their interests?
Further, saying "we must win in Iraq otherwise there will be chaos" is like saying being broke, having bills stuffed in my mailbox, spending my last ten bucks on MegaMillions lotto tickets (my own personal surge), holding that ticket in my hand and declaring "I must win this lottery, otherwise they will shut my utilities off, evict me and I'll be broke." Well, duh, those circumstances already exist, and magical thinking won't help a bit.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 11:04 AM
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36. The logic sems to be "I know better so you must trust me to lead you."
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 11:55 AM
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39. Yes, which given his actions, also defies logic! :) n/t
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 09:37 AM
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31. What a great campaign slogan!
Good thing didn't go with his second choice, "Screw You, America!"
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 09:38 AM
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32. Then you need to get out, asshole.
Government is largely subject to the people, or it ought to be, anyway.
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 10:03 AM
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34. Then stop running for President
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 10:54 AM
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35. Craven McCain is an example of why torture is so inhumane.
I believe it really damages the synapses in the brain which are necessary for cognitive functioning. Sometimes it can take decades for the problems to appear.

On the other hand, perhaps Craven McCain has always been deficient in character and integrity, and he's exploited his POW status as if it were a blessing in disguise.

Either way, I think he's certifiable and needs some genuine mental counseling.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 11:19 AM
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37. But stay in the race anyway, Senator. Seriously.
Edited on Sat Apr-07-07 11:20 AM by smoogatz
Keep sucking up millions in contributions from the military-industrial war-mongers who support you and your war of terror. Keep running on the "I don't give a fuck what the American people want because they're idiots" platform. Keep reminding everyone how thoroughly and unapologetically out of touch and unresponsive the Republic party has become. I think, in all seriousness, McCain believes he's already been anointed by the beltway money-boys, and that his nomination is a done deal, and all he has to do is run the mother of all negative campaigns against the evil Hillary. In other words, he's lost his fucking mind.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 11:50 AM
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38. Isn't that an admission that he can't get elected? Why is this man running?
can he really believe a glorious victory is just around the corner and the country will elect him in a vast celebration of victory victory victory?

scary
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 06:17 PM
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46. I am given to understand that his own son is in Iraq.
If I'm wrong, please correct me. If it's true, his insanity is deeper still.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 03:30 AM
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47. you seem to be right
altho couldn't find any news reports after July 06 about young Jimmy (18) McCain, marine recruit. That might explain his father's blind support for the war--thanks for the reminder!
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 12:42 PM
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40. McCain: I need the majority of the American people to vote for me,
but I don't really give a shit about what they want.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 01:17 PM
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41. Memo to McCain:
The goal of a presidential campaign is to gain the support of a majority of the American people.

Hanging out with the 20-whatever-percent of complete idiots who still support BushCo isn't going to get you shit.

Thank Goddess.




PS: Douchebag.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 01:40 PM
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42. He IS nuts - he has to be
He has no chance of winning, so I'm not concerned about that, but I think there should be mandatory psychological testing for whoever is running for President, so certifiably insane people like * can be removed BEFORE they get in. McCain would definately be found to be batshit crazy.
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cascagraphic Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 06:08 PM
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44. Thread title says it all. He won't even get the GOP nomination.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 06:10 PM
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45. McCain -- It's just the way I roll
:puke:
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