I'm looking for DUer's that are not only for the prosecution of BUSH/CHENEY era CRIMINALS,

[bobthedrummer]

DUer's that are preparing to or are actually proceeding along those lines regardless of all else.

:hi:
:patriot:

Not DUer's biting their nails as they wait for Michael Jackson autopsies and other Culture of Death extravaganzas (a regular feature here).

If I'm the only one remaining (and actually doing something about those CRIMINALS) so be it-but I'm optimistic that there are a few more here.

[GodlessBiker]

1. "Actually proceeding along those lines" - What does that mean?

[bobthedrummer]

3. You will probably be reading about it in 2010...

[GodlessBiker]

14. That's what I'm afraid of.

[omega minimo]

2. Maybe in your threads tell people what you are doing and what they can do

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5954884

[redqueen]

7. How novel!

Whoever could have thought of such a thing?

;)
:hi:

[bobthedrummer]

9. Can't do that at present....

[omega minimo]

27. Maybe a

feline wrangler? :toast:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

4. I sure hope you're not implying that DUers go vigilante.

Because that's what it's sounding like from here.

[Dragonfli]

32. Clearly that is not implied "for the prosecution of " is simple english. NT

[conscious evolution]

5. I fall in that category.

I've been collecting evidence for quite a while now on the bfee and plan on continueing to do so.

[Soylent Brice]

6. here.

[Octafish]

8. Investigate. Indict. Prosecute. Imprison.

Investigate. Indict. Prosecute. Imprison.

Repeat process until they are ALL Investigated. Indicted. Prosecuted. Imprisoned.

[OregonBi]

17. Bush and his evil, evil goose stepping cronies MUST be prosecuted!

Bedsides the hundreds of thousands of deaths in Iraq he is DIRECTLY responsible for, there are the thousands of his own countrymen that he has killed because he stopped stem cell research and deamonized homosexuals to the point where they were afraid of seeking much needed treatment because they were gay AND because they did not have the money to pay for their treatment..

As an aside, I registered at Democratic Underground almost four years ago but rarely stopped by to visit let along to post. I have spent the last four hellish years taking care of my partner who died because Bush and his rethuglican Nazi followers that blocked research for a cure of AIDS and the stem cell research for combating the MRSA my partner contracted while in intensive care. My partner and I were married in Multnomah County, Portland Oregon almost four years and the filthy right-wing fundies saw to it that those marriages were struck down, null and void!
Fortunately, four days before my partner passed a progressive non-denominational reverend blessed us with a bedside marriage as we recited out marriage vows.

Please keep up the good fight. The criminals MUST be held accountable for the destruction they have wrought upon this nation and the world.
I am still grieving to the point of being totally incapacitated as I can hardly get out of bed daily let alone take care of myself - including my personal hygiene. If I am up to it I can barely bathe once a week it at all! I just lay in a tub of hot water and sob all day long!!
I love you DU and want to help all I can after I can get re-aligned and productive again.

[glitch]

42. Seize Assets. nt

[cali]

10. look, I'm all for the prosecution of bushco, but your threads on it actually

don't do anything toward achieving that end. That's just the reality of it.

[OregonBi]

21. Why though cali, why?

I understand the behemoth right wing monster we are up against but if we all band together and push hard, don't you think we can at least make a little progress?
I for one refuse to give up and I will push hard for the rule of law to be applied against the Bush cabal and see them spending their last years in jail. This wonderful nation, you, I, and the socially secure intellectual members of Democratic Underground deserve better than what the Bush war machine gave us for eight years.

I always enjoy reading posts from you and a wide variety of friends here at Democratic Underground.

[omega minimo]

47. oh boy

[Senator]

33. look, ANY and ALL "threads on it" actually help a great deal...

...toward achieving necessary prosecution.

That's because the biggest current obstacle against enforcing our laws and treaty obligations are those -- like Obama -- who use escapist, "look away forward" rationalizations to put the inconvenient truths out of mind. There are certainly DUers included in that cohort.

Threads that can break through the hypnotic euphemedia trance of celebrity deaths, politician penis patrol, and other comparative trivialities -- like the vaunted Obama/DC-Dem "centrist agenda" -- are a welcome reminder of what's really vital and important.

Anyone who's "all for the prosecution of bushco" ought to be happy to promote such reminders. Dismissing these efforts, no matter how small, really only helps achieving the torturers' ends. That's the reality of it.

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[cali]

36. sorry, I don't believe that threads on DU demanding prosecution make any difference at all

For sure they don't hurt, but neither do they make a difference. What will? I don't know, but I think we have to expand efforts beyond the narrow confines of the internet.

[Freddie Stubbs]

37. But look at well all of the threads demanding the impeachment of Bush and Cheney worked

[Senator]

41. but this one has just made a difference, with you

You've gone from flat dismissal of even bringing up the subject in a thread to admitting that it's something that needs to be expanded upon.

It's that small change -- FROM talking about "wasting energy" on what "will never work" for things that are "never gonna happen" TO talking about how to "expand efforts" for what suddenly seems difficult but possible -- is all that is required.

In fact it's the only way any successful result has ever been achieved.

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[omega minimo]

49. This coalition is expanding on the efforts of many groups, to address torture and enablers

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5954884

[omega minimo]

48. Thank you Senator, as ever for a dose of clarity.

:yourock:

[mullard12ax7]

11. Signed every petition, written numerous times to politicos, protested, etc..

The paid-off whore politicians only care about advancing themselves in our current culture of corruption. Still, I'll never give up as I realize that nothing will ever change in the U.S. unless the worst criminals we've ever had in elected office are held responsible. Nothing will change because they are just the tops of huge corrupt organizations of people in gov't and business whom have been allowed to break every law possible.

[pleah]

12. K&R Prosecutions and nothing less.

:patriot: :hi:

[Mira]

13. You keep at it, and I'll back you K&R

[noiretextatique]

15. still here

:hi:

[EFerrari]

16. Kick

[fascisthunter]

18. kick

[leftstreet]

19. K&R

[bvar22]

20. I think we will have to "Privatize" the effort.

I support a private effort by Citizens of the World.
It is clear that the Democratic Party and the US Justice Department will do NOTHING to hold the criminals accountable.
A private organization representing Citizens of the World would have better results.

I will donate $500 to ANY organization that will place a Bounty on Bush/Cheney to be paid to anyone or any country that provides evidence or sworn testimony that leads to the issuing of an International Arrest Warrant, or an actual Arrest for War Crimes.

A small, transparent trust could be set up by a handful of lawyers, and located in a neutral country like Switzerland. If the BOUNTY is promoted internationally, it would quickly grow to Mega-Millions.

The fund would also be tasked with running full page "Wanted For War Crimes" ads in major Global newspapers every 3 months until the Bounty is awarded or depleted.

Wanted
for
WAR CRIMES

A $500 Million Dollar Reward will be paid to any individual, organization, or country that provides evidence or sworn testimony that leads to the arrest, or the issuance of an International Arrest Warrant for War Crimes committed by George Bush, Dick Cheney, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, or Donald Rumsfeld.

I have neither the resources or skills to institute such a fund, but I am willing to donate $500. I also believe that there are at least a million more worldwide (extreme minimum) who would also be willing to donate....that adds up to some serious money.

Even if Bush/Cheney are never arrested, a Mega-Million Dollar International Bounty would certainly keep them looking over their shoulders and curtail retirement travel plans.

It would also put a nice ribbon around the Bush Legacy, AND serve as a warning to future "Unitary Executives".

Until then, it looks like Spain is our only hope.
Does anyone know how we can support Spain in their quest for Justice?

[G_j]

22. it's up to us, but we are many nt

[hootinholler]

23. I'm in, let's go get those Bush Bastards! n/t

[madokie]

24. Bob you can always count on me being right there with you

especially on the prosecution of the bush/cheney gang of war criminals

[tavalon]

25. I've been sending weekly letters to the White House

So, I'm doing something. Nothing effective, I'll grant you.

[spanone]

26. jail

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[nc4bo]

28. Present! nt

:patriot:

[Dragonfli]

29. Yes - I will work to make this a nation of laws not men - Where NONE are ABOVE the law!

I believe in justice and want to live in a country that believes and applies rule of law.

Many do not realize this (because their pet politicians do not agree that none should be above the law), but our nation was founded on a principle of equality of justice - our founders loathed the idea that a royal class could have immunity from the laws of other citizens.

They actually believed that even a ruler must follow the same laws as did the most humble of citizens.

I may now be a minority in my agreement with our founders but I will not be moved in this belief!

[nashville_brook]

30. right here.

[Autumn]

31. Right here

those fuckers lied to pursue a war of choice, they have tortured human beings and I WILL NOT fucking forget. I want them to answer for the shit they have done. NO I am NOT getting over it. But you know they have no desire to prosecute, no matter what we say.

[chill_wind]

34. kick.

[tomp]

35. the plan? nt

[leveymg]

38. You're hardly the last one, Bob. Thanks for reminding us!

:hi: Back at you.

[barbtries]

39. justice

your secrecy makes me wonder if we are on the same path. but justice demands that the gwbush administration answer for their many, many crimes.

[Echo In Light]

40. It would be something to see them held accountable, but the ENTIRE system is 'guilty,' so to speak

...so accountability ain't comin' any time soon, I'm afraid.

[snot]

43. I concur: the plan?

[robertpaulsen]

44. Hell yeah! K&R!

:kick:

[dysfunctional press]

45. "If I'm the only one remaining (and actually doing something about those CRIMINALS)"

so...besides all the inane threads, what exactly are you doing about it? :shrug:

personally, i've got MUCH more pressing issues to deal with, here in the real world.

[blm]

46. ya really got me now....

.

[omega minimo]

50. Declaration of Indictment of Bush/Cheney cabal

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5965345&mesg_id=5965345

[bobthedrummer]

51. I have a few Congressional offices now involved, this involves the general area of health care abuse

and fraud on one basic level (there are multiple related dimensions) and leads right to BUSH/CHENEY era CRIMINALS.

This is developing ever so slowly, I thank those who are supportive, and don't respond to those that suggest nonsense/plant disinfo/attempt provocation, etc.

The vetting process has recently been completed-that's all I can say at present--I will be going public eventually (as some of my offline friends here know).