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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:48 PM
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What do do? Can't find a doctor!
We live in a town with oodles of yellow pages listing many doctors. My husband needs to see one...injured foot and he's a home builder. He lived here thirty years but his doctor has retired. Now we're trying to find a new physician and I have been calling all over town plus the hospital here for a list of doctors taking new patients. Here's what get when I called the three, three mind you, taking new patients: 1) what kind of insurance do you have? (We have none but have enough to cover getting a splinter out of his foot, I'm sure.) 2) We have to fill out forms asking about medications he's on etc. and then they'll let us know in a couple of days IF they'll take him 3)Not taking anyone over the age of fifty! My husband is 56. I told the last one that I'm having real difficulty finding a doctor and that my husband is uncomfortable and needs to see 'someone' and she just repeated what she had told me and said it would only be a couple of days!!!!!!!!!!!! No wonder people use emergency rooms. Any ideas? I hate to tell hubby when he hobbles home no one wants him for a patient.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:49 PM
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1. Not taking anyone over the age of fifty? geez
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:10 PM
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11. Can you believe that? I'm 61 so I'm really out of luck! When online
I couldn't believe the number, taking new patients or not, that don't accept Medicare or Medicaid. And really it's is amazing because many folks come here to retire. Guess they should think twice about that.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:44 PM
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16. isn't there a law against refusing someone on age?
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:21 PM
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31. Aren't there laws
that protect people from age discrimination?
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 09:04 AM
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35. I was so taken back when told that I froze! Never have heard of
such a thing outside of pediatrics and geriatrics. Going to look into it.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 08:02 PM
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34. That is crazy! That is when most of us need docs! I would complain to your
Edited on Mon Jun-29-09 08:04 PM by Ilsa
local hospital administrators. They are going to see a huge drop in business if they don't find some geriatric doctors to work there.

Pssst. If it is been over ten years since his last tetanus, make sure he gets one.
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:50 PM
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2. I think the ER is probably your best option...
at least he'll get medical help right away... or at least in 5-6 hours.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:50 PM
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3. Unfortunately the ER is the only way to go. My son had a similar
situation, said the ER took him at once, worked on his foot (also) and he was out of there in 15 minutes.
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pkdu Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:52 PM
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4. Doesnt help in the long term...but take him to urgent care center
..that thing can go septic. ( Urgent Care should be under different heading in phone book)

Cheers
P
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:52 PM
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5. But socialized medicine will result in healthcare rationing and a bureaucratic nightmare!
Like we aren't already living a nightmare.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:07 PM
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10. Yeah, this is nuts. Glad it's not critical but still he's uncomfortable
enough to know he needs to see a doctor. Which is huge for him. We're being interviewed to see if they'll take us!!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:53 PM
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6. Find an urgent care clinic for the foot, then "apply" to a dr. NT
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JenniferJuniper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:54 PM
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7. Agree with the others - ER.
Also, I don't know if your state allows those CVS/Walgreen's Minute Clinic places, but I've got a co-worker who has used them a couple of times and swears by them.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:56 PM
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23. It's an idea...I'll check! Thanks! nt
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 09:07 AM
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36. I looked into it. None at Walgreens and CVS only has Minute Clinics
in Dallas area, Austin area and Houston. Austing is the closest at 130 miles. But thanks so much for the info. Could come in handy when traveling!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 03:56 PM
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8. An urgent care center will take care of his immediate problem
and an ER will have to do if you don't have a walk in urgent care facility in your area. They'll dig out whatever it is and prescribe stuff so it doesn't get any worse. Updating his tetanus shot might also be a good idea.

However, he's going to need to get one of those three docs to see him after his foot is taken care of, just to get on a patient list should something worse happen. I'd go with the guy who asked for a med list.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:04 PM
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9. Thanks for your advice. Unfortunately our urgent care sucks and closes in
an hour anyway. So I guess the ER is the best for him. He did this days ago...not infected just deep...not redness or anything. He's resistant to docs so that is why we didn't go sooner but his foot is painful. Unfortunately, all the docs asked for meds and then two days wait to hope they'll see him. I am flabergasted...would never have believed this in my wildest dreams. They're picking and chosing who to see and not to see!
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:47 PM
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19. at this stage g o to the ER
but write to your state reps and tell them what happened. You could also post it on the Obama's healthcare site.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:48 PM
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28. I Googled and Googled but all the health care sites I found for
the President and the White House didn't seem to have a place for me to tell them of my dilemma. What am I missing?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 05:51 PM
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40. go to your congrssman's advice session
or make an appointment
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:08 PM
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20. That's exactly why you need to play along
and get him seen after he goes to the ER/urgent care.

Once he's in the door as a patient, he'll have an easier time the next time something happens.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:32 PM
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12. Might be an ER situation whether you have a doctor or not.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:36 PM
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13. Wow, not taking anyone over 50!
Medications he's on--filling out that form makes sense. The doctor doesn't want to give him something that could have a serious reaction when another scrip would do. The insurance--well, some doctors are "in network" for some companies and not "in network" for others--and that can make a difference on whether or not you have to pay out of pocket. Of course in your case it doesn't matter, but this might be why they want to know what insurance you have.

As for not taking anyone over 50--if they are GP, that's age discrimination!

Too bad you aren't in northwest Arkansas--one of our new patients tomorrow is 89.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:55 PM
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22. Oh they're very specific on their websites and on the phone which
insurance companies are 'acceptable'. The meds thing is fine when you have an appointment but not before as a pre-requisite to getting an appointment. The age thing has me really pissed. I rarely use strong language like that but it fits! I guess I have to make an appointment (this if for me), fill out the usual forms and history and 'chat' with the doctor about what I don't know so that I have a doctor I can call on. I am not a happy camper.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:40 PM
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14. Go to the ER first. The hospitals usually have social workers so ask to speak
to one. He/she will be familiar with health services in your community and may be able to make other suggestions as well as to insurance or other options.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:45 PM
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27. I called the hospital's automative system that told me which doctors
along with their specialities that are accepting new patients. So, if we were to go to the ER I'm certain I would get the same dead end list.
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:41 PM
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15. We have an "urgent care clinic" near here where you can walk
in, pay cash and get a good doctor, with no insurance.
But you are right. For a regularly scheduled over the phone with a new doctor, without insurance, you will never get in. "Oh, no insurance, ah, we don't have any appointments til next month, call back then."
So look for one of those, walk in, urgent care, etc.
Good luck.
dc
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:16 PM
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30. That's what I would suggest.
Urgent care. Years ago there used to be community clinics/free clinics. When I was a single mom unable to afford insurance, I would take the girls there. Always got great care.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:45 PM
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17. Call your senator and congresspeople and tell them your dilemma
put it in the local newspaper that you have been refused care.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 04:46 PM
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18. I Never Tell Dr.'s About My Meds
Edited on Mon Jun-29-09 04:48 PM by otohara
especially if a visit is something totally unrelated to the meds I take and why I take them.

Age discrimination runs ramped in this country - I got fired because my new boss preferred the pretty, young thing without the cane.

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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 05:14 PM
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21. I have insurance
Granted it is high deductible with a co-pay. The last time I saw a doctor was in 1996 at a minor emergency clinic. Last time I had any routine or preventative care was probably in 1991 or so. At this point I can't even produce medical files because my previous doctors have long ago died, retired and relocated. Maintaining those old paper records for a long gone patient through several ownership changes hasn't exactly been much of a priority.

I know someone else who was uninsured, and needed an evaluation for a disability claim. He had been seeing and making full and timely payments to a doctor who gave him a specialist referral. Specialist refused to see him even when he offered to prepay fees for all anticipated charges, x-rays, blood work and other tests weeks in advance. In essence, the specialist denied this fellow the ability to secure the very documentation he needed to pursue his disability claim.

What is happning in our health care system shold be criminalized. Most states have statutes on the books that require that all patients be charged the same fee for medical services. But our spineless politicians and government regulators haven't done anything to enforce that legislation. The over 50 restriction should be considered impermissible age discrimination. And the application based on medical history should be considered a possible violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:13 PM
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25. I so agree with you. You brought up a point I forgot....one said "if"
they acccept my husband he'll have to pre-pay before he sees the doctor. Wish hubbie could pre-charge.
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SeeHopeWin Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:12 PM
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24. Yes - Emergency Room!!!
Then later when the bills come, apply for charity discount, you will get a HUGE discount.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:18 PM
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26. We're not destitute but we can no longer pay for insurance.
It's priced itself out of our range....let's see...eat vs health insurance; pay mortgage vs health insurance. We had a ten thousand dollar deductible with a 70/30 pay out...that was the cheapest we or our independent agent could find and it was just too much. I've paid into healthcare all my life and now when I'm getting to the age of needing it, the price just keeps growing. I'm hoping for better results tomorrow. Husband just got home and is OK but needs some help.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 06:59 PM
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29. Your hubby has a puncture wound? (the splinter) Make sure he gets a tetanus shot asap--at the ER
Damn I'm sorry. Best of luck.

Hekate


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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:26 PM
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32. Why didn't the retired doctor refer his clients to someone else?
Or did he?
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 09:09 AM
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37. My hubby moved away, out of state, for five years and then came back to
find out his doctor was gone. That's when we met!
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 07:58 PM
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33. Urgent care center will be way cheaper than the ER
My hubby is a family practice physician and has a waiting list of people who want to be a patient.
He just can't see anymore people in a day than he already does. When there is an opening family members of current patients are first on the list. There are spot shortages of doctors in many places in this country.Best of luck.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 09:13 AM
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38. Does your area have 211 service?
If so, call that number (like 911 except for situations that aren't urgent life or death, but still somewhat crisis related.)

They're run by United Way and they've probably done all the research on this sort of thing so you don't have to tear your hair out trying to duplicate all that research yourself.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 01:49 PM
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39. Thank you! Never heard of that service before this. I found out we
don't have clinics at our CVS or Walgreens so maybe this service can help.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-30-09 06:01 PM
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41. If they are able to help you, I'd love to know.
I've recommended them a couple of times to people, but I haven't had to call them yet - I'm hoping they are as helpful as what I've heard.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-01-09 06:56 PM
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42. Unfortunately, 211 was of no personal help. But I can see where
it could be a great aid for people in real need. We can afford somethings healthwise. God help us though if one of us becomes truly ill. Thanks for your efforts! :hi:
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