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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:10 PM Original message |
Honduras and the center right split brain syndrome |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. I have no freakin' idea. |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Anyone calling Chavez a 'dictator' merely exposes their ignorance |
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metapunditedgy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. CNN says the legislative and judicial bodies of Honduras had already rejected the referendum. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Irrelevant |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Why is it irrelevant? They have a constitution there, you don't think they should follow it? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Because the Chavez-bots don't care if someones a dictator as long as he's THEIR dictator. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. If you've read my previous posts I am neither pro nor anti Chavez |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Pinochet actually was a dictator. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. You misunderstood me. I wasn't Calling Zelaya a dictator. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Bullshit. You WERE calling Zelaya a dictator. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Holy jumping to conclusions Batman! |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. The Honduran political class, if you hadn't realized that, are antidemocrartic elitists |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. So I should support a populist dictator (Chavez) just because he claims to support the little guy? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. In Latin America, people like Hugo are all the poor and the workers have. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Power corrupts. Look at Mugabe. |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. If Hugo is all the poor have then they are in deeper shit than I feared |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Again: democratically elected in fair and open elections. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I DO NOT SUPPORT THE COUP! |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
50. You called Chavez, the democratically elected president of Venezuela |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. An elective dictatorship is still a dictatorship. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. fair and open elections |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. One can win free and open elections and still be a dictator. |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. If you are constrained by the electorate your power is not unconstrained. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Why is it being a dictator to give the people direct power? |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. notice the Right's lack of condemnation regarding Uribe's attempts to end term limits |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Indeed. The right only speaks up when the poor find a way to stand up to them. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. One can be a populist without shiting on your country's constitution. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. This was the only chance of changing the constitution |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. That's when you start up big demonstrations to get the politicians to get off their asses |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. While all of that is true, the punishment (removal) does not match the crime |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Perhaps not, but... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Huh? The coup was when the coup happened. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Surprisingly, no. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. Oh, fer Christ's sake. He couldn't have removed his term limit via a survey |
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metapunditedgy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. Of course its not irrelevant. If you want a discussion, present the facts. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Anytime someones says, at a time like this that "the situation is very complicated" |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. LOL, I think you have just showed your ideological dogmatism. |
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metapunditedgy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #33 |
56. Any time somebody leaves important facts out of a story, |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. The only thing I left out was the right-wing pro-coup official line |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
42. No, the situation is not all that complicated. |
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metapunditedgy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-30-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #42 |
55. I'm not supporting the coup. I am opposing the propaganda. |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Besides opposition from the Congress, the Supreme Court, the electoral tribunal and the attorney |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Yes, and what the people want is a right-wing military coup! |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. This situation is crystal clear to anyone who knows the history of 20th century Latin America. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. That still couldn't justify a military coup. |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm gonna ask the same question I asked in another thread: |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. That is a good question. n/t |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. same was done to Haiti's last Democratically Elected President |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
5. To tell you the truth, I haven't been following that closely |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
7. Because the "Center Right" is the "Far Right" with jobs programs for the middle class. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. HAHAHA!!! Oh, wait, you seriously believe that BS in you post... |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
11. This stinks |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. Because they are liars |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. What I've been hearing is that Zelaya was trying to pass off an unconstitutional referendum... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. and in your mind that justifies a military coup? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Of course not. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Funny, all you've done in the Honduras threads is spew abuse at those who support democracy |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Wow, that's quite Rovian-type spin you are engaging in. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-29-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. Well, you've been hearing golpista propaganda. |
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