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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 06:12 PM
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Poll question: Do you feel this is a case of: Meet the New Boss...
I read that David Axelrod, in a TV interview, said that the White House certainly has every option about health care on the table, and that even includes raising taxes on the middle class. It made me think about how politicians say one thing and do another. George B*sh often spoke peace and meant bloody warmongering, and already in this administration they have sided with B*sh Administration policies regarding warfare, judicial cases, treasury billions to corporations, and DOMA & DADT too many times for my comfort.

It makes my support of him lukewarm. I appreciate when he breaks precedence as a standard "middle of the road" politician, and does something progressive (Ledbetter Act), and yet, I am let down, and sadly, expressing disbelief that I could hear any of various policies being stated by the white house and not feel it would have been any different of an outcome if Der Fuhrer was still in power.

How do you feel about the decisions by the new administration? Are there so many that it's obvious they're far too similar to the previous white house, or are they opposite, and progressively different.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 06:40 PM
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1. at 50-50, as I expected. half the votes are the negative ones, with the other choice getting 50%.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:23 PM
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3. Ok, Seabiscuit.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:54 PM
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10. sorry, no biscuit. I've been on years before you. I remember the name though.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:21 PM
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2. Obama is turning out to be exactly what I expected.
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 07:22 PM by Tesha
Better than Bush, no doubt, but DLC to the core and not really
on the side of the average working stiffs in America.

And in 2010, watch the Democrats get bashed in the midterms
for Obama's and the Congress's inaction on all the really important
stuff.

Tesha
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:30 PM
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6. I'm very worried that will happen & here we have this great chance to really push forward on many
issues to bring us into the 21st Century. I believe it can still happen. We have to keep the pressure on the WH to hear us, so they understand we won't be helping them get re-elected if so much that could be isn't taken, and promises aren't kept.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 01:50 AM
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19. Agreed, these assholes have squandered what might be the last chance
we had to turn this disaster around.

Unlike you, I think they've made it abundantly clear that they have no intention of changing anything that might interfere with the flow of corporate dollars into their party's accounts. The Ledbetter Act was such a pathetic bone it hardly even qualifies as a bone, yet it is unvaryingly waved as the flag of change by the Gobama squad.

But hey, they're wearing blue sweaters.
:puke:

As always, here's hoping I'm wrong.:toast:


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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:26 PM
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4. The New and Old Boss both work for the same boss.
A corrupt system controlled by those with the power of money and influence.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:29 PM
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5. yes and no.
Yes in the sense that he's a politician, and this is how politicians are, even the charismatic ones.

No in the sense that I don't feel he's like Bush. Yes, there's a couple things he's doing that Bush did, but I would have to discount so much more that Obama brings to the table that Bush never could in order to compare those two in any serious way.

Calling someone a politician is already an insult, I don't need to pile on and make comparisons to the worst president we've ever had. :)
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:32 PM
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8. well, true.. LOL
thanks for your input FB. I always enjoying hearing your take. I'm still hopeful that after the medical coverage issue is resolved in some way, that we're going to be the focus of Obama's concerns. I want to believe, though it's hard right now, that he really does care about the "2nd class citizenship" that us GLBTers have.

divine discontent (formerly themartyred)
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:32 PM
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7. David Axelrod is wrong. Single-payer is not on the table.
As for the poll, I voted for choice 2.

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:33 PM
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9. David is upsetting at times. I think choice two is pretty spot on.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:56 PM
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11. He's a big Number Two.
Wait . . . let me rephrase that . . .
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 09:49 PM
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12. Now 60-40% in favor of saying we've been disappointed by the admin. so far
I'm watching PBS right now, they're showing a special on the Gay Rights plight, and they're putting major events chronologically, as the events involving GLBT people have happened. They put Barack Obama elected president 2008, as a moment in Gay history.... for now, that's hilarious that they did that.

I really hope tomorrow at the meeting with the GLBT leaders invited to the WH, that he makes a very public speech about how it's wrong to judge anyone based on their sexuality. That would help my opinion, that has been hurt by this subject, and the other issues that the admin. has seemed to behave just like the old admin, or in defense of the old admin.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 09:54 PM
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13. The old Obama=Bush nonsense. Again.
I wish every halfwit who subscribes to such stuff would publicly announce themselves so I could ignore each and every statement they make about everything on planet earth.

The only consolation is that these morons have no influence on anything except the ability to turn DU into the leftwing version of Free Republic in its hatred of a Democratic president.

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:16 PM
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14. Publicly announced! I noticed you have no defense to the actions of the administration, just
hyperbole of us being freepers. Yes, all these long time DUers, we're nothing but haters of the Democratic president. It is noteworthy that you call him such, by the way, as if that makes everything he does a-ok because he's got a "D" affilation. So does Senator Ben Nelson - and he isn't a Democrat!

Many of the people on here who have been active in Democratic fund raising, community organizing, and contacting Congress on the issues are not pleased, but you go right ahead and wish all you want to know who they all are so you can ignore half of the site instead of stating your case why it's okay the Obama Administration has broken campaign promises, is secretive and is using executive privilege, signing-statements and working against the organizations who are taking the legal fight to them for these choices. It's just a hell of a lot easier to name call though, instead of give an intellectual response, isn't it?


The tide is definitely turning against the administration for being too right of center - don't blame us - blame the administration for being the worst thing any politician can be - someone who bases decisions on politics and not what they told us they stood for. I hope the tide turns back with our continued voices telling the president and Congress what we expect of them. Mock us as being non-effective all you want - we are right to push progressive issues and will win.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:34 PM
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16. Obama=Bush isn't criticism, it's childlish drivel from small minds.
Either he's perfect, or he's Bush.

Small minds seek simple conclusions.

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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-29-09 01:27 AM
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18. "Small minds seek simple conclusions." Like YOUR simple conclusion? n/t
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:19 PM
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15. A mix of 1 and 2: Smarter and Prettier but other than rhetoric, no real difference.
The problem is entirely systemic. A new personality couldn't fix it even if he or she wanted to. (Not that I think he wants to...)
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:34 PM
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17. Another small mind to add to the ignore list. nt
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