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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:05 PM
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New Freeper Meltdown - Now They Believe Ayers Wrote Obama's Book (clues=big words they don't know)
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 02:14 PM by Stephanie
Oh noes!



http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2009_06_28_archive.html#2786635164969216280

Sunday, June 28, 2009

ANOTHER COUNTY HEARD FROM. I am grateful to Jeremy Osner for pointing out that while all the squares are still into Obama birtherism, real gone cat Jack Cashill is into alterna-conspiracy, specifically the Bill-Ayers-Wrote-Obama's-Books thing. Actually up till recently Cashill has been the only active explorer of this literary crime and cover-up, though mainstream conservatives sometimes like to pick up on it to enhance their street cred.

But now he's got help.

About a week ago, however, I heard from a new contributor. I will refer to him as "Mr. West." Like most contributors, he prefers to remain anonymous. The media punishment that Joe the Plumber received has much to do with this nearly universal reticence.

A week before that, I heard from another excellent contributor, Mr. Midwest.

Build a better crackpot, and the world will beat a path to your door -- in discrete geographical segments, apparently.

Scoff as we will, Cashill, Mr. West, Mr. Midwest, and perhaps Mr. Pacific Northwest, Mr. Venice Beach, and Mr. Marvin Gardens have made real progress. For example, both Ayers and Obama misrender Sandburg's "Hog Butcher for The World" as "Hog Butcher to The World." If you would point out that many of us make the same mistake -- including, for example, Reason's Nick Gillespie -- that just shows that you're in on the deception. Maybe Gillespie proofread Obama's books -- he's a libertarian, and you just can't trust those people.

Also: like Ayers, Obama writes about the Mekong Delta -- and "Given Obama's age, 'Mekong Delta' was not likely a part of his vocabulary." (Wait -- didn't Obama go to Normandy Beach recently? How'd he know about that? It was way before his time. The plot thickens!)

And both Ayers and Obama use the word "baleful" -- Cashill says, "I had to look it up," which is to him further evidence of its singularity.

Cashill gloats over his accomplishments:

To this point, I have just skimmed the 759 items in the bill of particulars in my case against Obama's literary genius. Not familiar with the term "bill of particulars?" Uncertain myself, I looked that one up too.

You'll want to get on at the ground floor with this one, folks. Cashill and all his contributing jursidictions are going places,

1:08 PM by roy edroso Comments (6) | Trackback



Here's the Freeper thread on it:



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2281020/posts

Breakthrough on the Authorship of Obama's 'Dreams' !!!!!
American Thinker ^ | 6/28/09 | Jack Cashill
Posted on June 28, 2009 1:34:36 AM EDT by pissant


Within days of my going public last September with the speculation that terrorist emeritus Bill Ayers helped Barack Obama write his acclaimed memoir, Dreams From My Father, I learned that I was not alone in that intuition.

Since then, I have received helpful contributions from serious people in at least five countries and any number of states and have integrated many of their observations into my ongoing narrative, summarized here. If you are unfamiliar with this research, please read this before going forward.

About a week ago, however, I heard from a new contributor. I will refer to him as "Mr. West." Like most contributors, he prefers to remain anonymous. The media punishment that Joe the Plumber received has much to do with this nearly universal reticence.

A week before that, I heard from another excellent contributor, Mr. Midwest. Their collective contribution should dispel the doubts of all but the willfully blind that Ayers played a substantial role, likely the primary role, in the writing of Dreams.

As a reminder, there is no reliable computer science for determining authorship. In assessing the value of the existing science, think polygraph, not DNA. Polygraph-level scholarship may suffice for harmless speculation about the authorship of Midsummer's Night Dream, but not for Dreams From My Father. Too much is at stake for the latter.

The experts in the field have told me to stick with old-fashioned literary detective work, and I have done just that. Mr, Midwest has helped. His most recent contribution is a good example of keen-eyed detection.

==blather blather blather==




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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:09 PM
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1. I thought it was ghost written by Elizabeth Hasselback. n/t
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:11 PM
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2. They BOTH USED THE WORD "BALEFUL"!!!!!!!
Well, right there.

I mean, guilty on all counts.

NO ONE uses that word. Ever.

Anywhere...............
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:19 PM
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11. Yah...baleful is such a rare word. I'm sure I didn't encounter it until
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 02:20 PM by MineralMan
the fourth or fifth grade. But, since that exceeds the level most Freepers reached before limiting out on their vocabulary capacity, I can see how they might be confused.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:51 PM
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20. It comes from the huge quantities that Limbaugh feeds his sheep.........
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 03:19 PM
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24. OMG, Ayers wrote my Webster's Dictionary!!!!! n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 03:25 PM
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26. Ayers was probably Shakespeare. n/t
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:11 PM
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3. Idiots!
A sample of the idiotic posts there:

"Soetoro even has difficulty carrying on a simple conversation without the use of a teleprompter, and he expects us to believe that he could write a book...even a bad book? :crazy:
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 09:24 PM
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38. Why do these idiots keep calling him SOETERO?? That's not his name.
:grr: :banghead:

That's his stepfather's name.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:12 PM
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4. Such drivel. They just can't accept the fact that our president
is intelligent and entirely capable of writing a book? Pfft.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:15 PM
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6. It's been such a long time since a President from their party could do such a thing.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:13 PM
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5. Oh man.
Wow. Because Obama uses terms they don't understand that means he didn't write his own damn book?

They are through-the-looking-glass crazy.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:15 PM
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7. They have believed this for quite some time
I had a Republican come at me with this during the election and it totally pissed him off that I wouldn't believe him. They seem to believe Ayers is basically a human Satan, but since he's white, he must be smarter than President Obama and wrote his books.

This is old stuff for these people. They can't even come up with new conspiracy theories. I guess they have to wait for the radio guys to come up with them for them.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:18 PM
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10. First I've heard of it
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 02:27 PM by Stephanie
Absolutely amazing. All of these Freeper conspiracy theories have a common angle, from the birth certificate to Dan Rather to what they did to my friend Andy. They seize on one little factoid which they try to discredit and then demand PROOF that they're not wrong. They are one trick ponies.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 04:15 PM
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32. They are amazing!
I wouldn't have known if someone hadn't tried to use it against me in the fall. They get so angry when you don't believe them too. I actually think the person who threw it out at me said he heard it from a "guest" on one of the big AM hate-talkers, either Rush or Hannity, though it has been a while now and I don't keep track of their insanity very well. :crazy:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:35 PM
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35. If they're going to invent stuff, why don't they do it about stuff that matters?
They spend their days chasing their tails, for nothing. They got Rather and that encouraged them.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:16 PM
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8. Teh stupidity burns!
"Also: like Ayers, Obama writes about the Mekong Delta -- and "Given Obama's age, 'Mekong Delta' was not likely a part of his vocabulary." (Wait -- didn't Obama go to Normandy Beach recently? How'd he know about that? It was way before his time. The plot thickens!)" :crazy: :silly: :dunce:

Gee, maybe President Obama heard of this new thing - education and research. In the last forty years, maybe Obama and Ayers had a chance to learn about things that happened during and even before their lifetimes. Some people are capable of that radical sort of thing!
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:33 PM
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12. Did you see Paul Begala's handling
of the dimwit Meghan McCain on Bill Maher's show last week?

If now, you REALLY must. You'll love it, I guarantee................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENGnGAIuYgM

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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:58 PM
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21. That was great! Paul Begala can be so good at that kind of thing
I do have to disagree with TYT guy - I don't see that it was bad Begala being 'patronizing.' When Meghan McCain whined about being just "the blonde figure (?)" and "the lone Republican" and getting shit from her friends, she deserved to be patronized for being stupid and uninformed. If she is going to trot out and speak up for her Dad's party, she needs to be prepared for whatever gets dished out, put on her big girl panties and deal with it.
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 09:22 PM
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37. I got the impression she thinks ignorance is a badge of honor. n/t
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 09:31 PM
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41. Well, look at her father and her associates
Stupid seems to be their way of life. :shrug:
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:42 PM
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42. She's an arrogant little twit -
she's there only because she's McPOW's kid. She has not a whiff of intelligence about her, and that comment about "I wasn't born yet" was so abysmally stupid, I wonder if the Powers That Be at Columbia - yes, our President's alma mater - cringe when they realize they gave this little dipshit a degree.

Yes, she's a Columbia University grad. How frightening is THAT?

She labors under the delusion that what she says actually matters, and she seems to see herself as some sort of Youth Ambassador, a bridge between the Old GOPigs and the Young GOPigs.

If she's representative of what's coming up in that party, we must encourage Meghan to appear everywhere and to keep talking.

Plus, her terminally nasal Valley Girl inflections make her sound like she'd be much happier selling earrings at a kiosk in the mall...............
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 09:29 PM
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39. God, what a whiny, dippy voice she has!!
I could barely understand anything Meghan said!!

I can't stand nasal, high pitched, whiny muffies!

:banghead:
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:45 PM
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15. There's also this new-fangled invention
called movies...

Anyone who's seen "Apocalypse Now" or other Vietnam war movies has probably heard of the Mekong Delta.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:16 PM
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9. I know Jack Cashill; he is an absolute moron
He is from here and a well known local conservative activist. For some strange reason, he is frequently featured on local political TV shows. And he rarely fails to make a fool of himself when he opens his mouth.

What I find interesting is he has never once that I know of spoken out locally about this stupid theory he is promoting about Obama. He has opinions on voter ID, abortion, gay marriage, the republican party. All of those issues are put to him by our local media who drink up his warped opinions. But nothing about this nonsense. I found out about it from reading his website.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:37 PM
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13. Well you know megan mccain says if it happened before they were born....
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:39 PM
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14. To me when I read his autobiography it was in the style in which he speaks.
I could hear his voice reading the book in my head. I don't know why I'm bothering to post this since you guys all probably agree.
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:46 PM
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16. In fairness to the Freepers they have a good case on this one
Barack and Bill both used words of more than one syllable - eg America, burger, giraffe, nostril - so, your honour, I rest my case.
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:46 PM
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17. This is just an old
recycled issue. They've been claiming that for a long time.
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Ocracoker16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:50 PM
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19. yes, these allegations debate back to the election
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:46 PM
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18. bill and barack are diametrically opposed to each others philosophies.


oh no! i used two words the freepers have no clue what they mean....yes.... i had bill write this for me........
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 03:15 PM
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22. it's kinda fun watching freepers foam at the mouth
poor things just cannot accept a black man as prez :nopity:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 03:16 PM
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23. they are dumber than a double pile of horseshit
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 03:19 PM
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25. I don't see what the big deal is. If they honestly believe this
tripe, they only have to go back into the extensive written bodies of work of both individuals in question and compare writing styles. That would tell them who had written it.

The thing with Bush was, he had no previous written materials for comparison purposes.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 03:34 PM
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27. That's what they claim to have been doing.
Hence, both used the word "baleful" so it must be a conspiracy.
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 04:10 PM
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31. Well, in that case, someone needs to inform them there is
a LOT more to writing style than vocabulary choice.

Based upon that dimwitted logic, I'm sure we could find a lot of the same words in Bush's (ALLEDGEDLY Karen Hughes' ghost written) autobiography and "My Pet Goat" and prove that they were both written by the same author.

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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 10:45 PM
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43. The idea that Chimpy Fucknuts
ever READ a book, let alone WROTE one is so obviously ridiculous that it's not even funny.

I can imagine him struggling to get through a copy of People, and throwing it down in exasperation.

Honestly, does anyone think he reads anything but the sports pages?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 03:42 PM
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28. Bill Ayers wrote this post for me
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 03:51 PM
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29. I know I was critical of Ms. Garofolo's comments on the tea parties, but . . .
. . . this really is about racism. This really is just a bunch a Neanderthals who resent having a black man as president of the United States, who are so dismissive of black people in general that they do not believe one could write a book.

I don't really think all members of Free Republic are racists, but many are and they are attracted to this stiff like flies to shit. The analogy of shit to this theory is a damn good one, don't you think?

This has all the same elements Andy Martin's Obama-is-a-Muslim meme from last year. It has all the same elements, including the same evil white puppet master (Ayers) and a plot that reads like a bad science fiction novel.

I don't know if Martin, a notorious anti-semite, thought of this, too, but let's see if Hannity can resist the lastest Obama-Ayers conpiracy nonsense this time.


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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 04:04 PM
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30. The rationalizations are hilarious though
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 04:05 PM by Stephanie

"It is the rare memoirist who talks about eyebrows at all." :rofl:




Returning to the exotic, in his Indonesian backyard Obama discovered two "birds of paradise" running wild as well as chickens, ducks, and a "yellow dog with a baleful howl."

In Fugitive Days, there is even more "howling" than there is in Dreams. Ayers places his "birds of paradise" in Guatemala. He places his ducks and dogs together in a Vietnamese village being swept by merciless Americans. In Parent, he talks specifically about a "yellow dog." And he uses the word "baleful" to describe an "eye" in Fugitive Days. For the record, "baleful" means "threatening harm." I had to look it up.

Ayers is fixated with faces, especially eyes. He writes of "sparkling" eyes, "shining" eyes, "laughing" eyes, "twinkling" eyes, eyes "like ice," and people who are "wide-eyed" and "dark-eyed."

As it happens, Obama is also fixated with faces, especially eyes. He also writes of "sparkling" eyes, "shining" eyes, "laughing" eyes, "twinkling" eyes, and uses the phrases "wide-eyed" and "dark-eyed." Obama adds "smoldering eyes," "smoldering" being a word that he and Ayers inject repeatedly. Obama also uses the highly distinctive phrase "like ice," in his case to describe the glinting of the stars.

If Ayers is fixated on eyes, about eyebrows he is positively fetishistic. There are six references to "eyebrows" in Fugitive Days -- bushy ones, flaring ones, arched ones, black ones and, stunningly, seven references in Dreams -- heavy ones, bushy ones, wispy ones. It is the rare memoirist who talks about eyebrows at all.

On three occasions in Dreams, Obama speaks of people with "round" faces. On four occasions in Fugitive Days, Ayers does the same. Both speak of "grim-faced" people, people with "soft" faces, and, most unusually, people with "tight" faces.

Both Ayers and Obama describe acquaintances who smile like a "Cheshire cat." Some of their characters have a countenance -- grin, squint, or scowl -- that is "perpetual." Others are "suppressing" their smiles or their grins.




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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 04:26 PM
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33. Republicans try to use Oxford don to smear Barack Obama
-snip-

He believed that if “proof” of Ayers’s involvement was provided by an Oxford academic it would be political dynamite.

Fox contacted Millican*, who said: “He was entirely upfront about this. He offered me $10,000 and sent me electronic versions of the text from both books.”

Millican took a preliminary look and found the charges “very implausible”. A deal was agreed for more detailed research but when Millican said the results had to be made public, even if no link to Ayers was proved, interest waned.

Millican said: “I thought it was extremely unlikely that we would get a positive result. It is the sort of thing where people make claims after seeing a few crude similarities and go overboard on them.” He said Fox gave him the impression that Cannon had got “cold feet about it being seen to be funded by the Republicans”.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5063279.ece



* Dr Peter Millican, a philosophy don at Hertford College, Oxford, has devised a computer software program that can detect when works are by the same author by comparing favourite words and phrases.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 09:31 PM
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40. Okay that's hilarious
"Interest waned." :rofl:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 05:18 PM
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34. they couldn't figure out the plot of a book ...
despite the fact that I told them it was a dictionary ...
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 07:42 PM
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36. They just make this shit up.
Then they spend weeks having a circle jerk over it.

I think they were deprived of oxygen at a critical stage of neonatal development, or just plain got dropped on their heads as babies.
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