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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 06:39 PM
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What do DUers think of these two parties?
Vermont Progressive Party:
http://www.progressiveparty.org/

Working Families Party
http://www.workingfamiliesparty.org/

More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Families_Party
The Working Families Party (WFP) is a minor political party in the United States founded in New York in 1998. The party also has a wing in Connecticut, and is working towards establishing itself in Massachusetts, Oregon and California<1>.

New York's Working Families Party was first organized in 1998 by a coalition of labor unions, ACORN and other community organizations, members of the now-inactive national New Party, and a variety of public interest groups. The party blends a culture of political organizing with unionism, 1960s idealism, and realistic tactical pragmatism. The party's main issue concerns are jobs, health care, education and energy/environment, and it has won notable policy gains at the city, county and state level by piggybacking on Democratic or Republican candidates.

In the 1998 election for governor of New York, the party cross-endorsed the Democratic Party candidate, Peter Vallone. Because he received more than 50,000 votes on the WFP line, the party gained an automatic ballot line for the succeeding four years. <2> In the 2002 election, the Liberal Party, running Andrew Cuomo (who had withdrawn from the Democratic primary), and the Green Party, running academic Stanley Aronowitz, failed to reach that threshold and lost the ballot lines they had previously won. This left the WFP as the only left-progressive minor party with a ballot line. This situation will continue until at least 2011 following the party's cross-endorsement of Eliot Spitzer in the 2006 election, at which he gained more than 155,000 votes on the Working Families Party line, more than three times the required 50,000.

As of 2006, the executive director of the WFP is Dan Cantor. The party's Co-Chairs are Sam Williams, UAW Region 9 CAP director; Bertha Lewis, ACORN's executive director; and Bob Master of the Communications Workers of America. The WFP also has a powerful alliance with Dennis Rivera and Local 1199/SEIU (Service Employees International Union). The intensely activist union is known to contribute more than $100,000 a year of the party's $1.4 million annual budget.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont_Progressive_Party
The Vermont Progressive Party is a major political party as defined by Vermont state law. The Vermont Progressive Party was founded in 1999 and is active only in the U.S. state of Vermont.

The Vermont Progressive Party originated with the independent campaign of Bernie Sanders for mayor of Burlington, Vermont. Sanders, who was later elected to the United States Congress, and subsequently to the United States Senate, never officially associated himself with the Progressive Party, although the Progressives were among his biggest supporters. A group of his supporters organized themselves as the Progressive Coalition to contest further elections.

The Coalition succeeded in electing several members, including Terry Bouricius, to the Vermont General Assembly, and, after establishing a stable political base, formally became the Progressive Party. After picking up three new seats in the 2004 elections, it now has six representatives in the state House of Representatives, making it the only third party in the United States to have more than one state legislature seat, excluding states such as New York and South Carolina, which allow candidates to affiliate with more than one party (for example, leading to many Republican/Conservative or Democrat/Working Families members of the New York Legislature.)



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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 06:41 PM
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1. They are better than the Joe Liberman party here in CT.
:puffpiece:
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 06:45 PM
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2. wouldn't it be great
if we had IRV voting and Democrats, Greens, Progressives, and Working Family Party candidates could all hold eachothers feet to the fire?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 06:52 PM
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4. New York has fusion voting. The Working Family Party often nominates progressive
dems as their candidate and you can vote for the Dem on the Working Family Party line on the ballot.

If the Dem wins, they can see exactly how much of their support comes from progressives in the Working Family Party.

Unfortunatly, both the Dems and the Repos have worked together to outlaw fusion voting in almost every state. They both prefer a monopoly arraignment.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 06:56 PM
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6. Here is an interesting piece on IRV Voting.
You may not be so enamored with it once you read this.


http://math.temple.edu/~wds/homepage/rangeVirv
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 07:03 PM
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8. thanks for the link
I will take a look at it!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 09:11 PM
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 06:52 PM
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3. I think they are Republicans. n/t
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 06:55 PM
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5. The Dems in New York who have been elected by their ballot line on the Working
Familiy Party ticket would disagree with you.

They have fusion voting in New York, so WFP doesn't have to be a spoiler.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 06:57 PM
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 07:13 PM
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10. The Vermont progressives are certainly not republics.
I work with a guy whos an elected progressive legislator
and believe me, he's very far from being a republic.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 08:00 PM
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11. Gosh, I feel so honored. You just called my mother a Republican.
She votes (for Democrats) on the Working Families line whenever she can. She's voted Democratic for her entire life (longer than you have I would guess).

While we're at it, when are you going to apologize for supporting the crypto-Republican Joe Lieberman?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 08:56 PM
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12. When did I support the crypto-Republican Joe Lieberman?
Edited on Fri Apr-06-07 08:56 PM by LoZoccolo
Nobody can seem to produce any evidence of that.

And no, it's not because it was deleted.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 09:01 PM
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13. And didn't we already have a talk about this? n/t
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 09:08 PM
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14. Yes, but that was before you called my mother a Republican.
How about you apologize, and then I will.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 10:09 PM
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16. Well, let's see what these people are about...
Edited on Fri Apr-06-07 10:10 PM by LoZoccolo
Usually, the WFP endorses the Democratic Party candidate, but it has occasionally endorsed Republican Party candidates in Westchester, Nassau, and Erie counties, often as a strategy for spurring bi-partisan action on its policy priorities. The party's sometime-position at the balance of electoral power and the threat of Republican endorsement has allowed it to influence the politics of local Democratic candidates and the state Democratic party. The support of the WFP can even be important in Democratic primaries.

Sounds like they're into extorting Democrats to me; they'd have no power to do so if they didn't act as Republicans from time to time, or at least threaten to.

Now let's see my endorsement of Lieberman again?
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 10:16 PM
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17. Let's see some evidence that my mother is a Republican
because she votes for Democratic candidates on the WFP line. There is nothing in the above post that would support the contention that my mother is a Republican.

When you apologize, I will.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 12:46 PM
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18. Simplistic to the point of irrelevance.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 07:05 PM
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9. Both are good for democracy.
Which is why some don't like them.
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