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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 12:01 PM
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U.S. base camps in Iraq built on uranium dumps?
Edited on Sat Jun-27-09 12:01 PM by MercutioATC
Just got an e-mail from my aunt. It appears that when my cousin was on his 1st tour in Iraq, his base was built on an Iraqi uranium dump. Apparently, several of the men have cancer and one has died of cancer.

Anybody hear anything about this?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 12:45 PM
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1. For there to be uranium dumps, there would have to be uranium in the first place.
No proof that Saddam ever had any in any quantity.

Chemical dumps, however, also cause cancer, and he had plenty of lethal chemicals.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 01:05 PM
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2. The Al Tuwaitha nuclear complex had a lot of poorly-disposed-of waste.
(it was the generation facility for the reactor the Israelis bombed in 1981)
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 06:04 PM
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8. Saddam had lots of uranium
It was monitored by UN inspectors like Scott Ritter.
http://www.military.com/news/article/us-removes-uranium-from-iraq.html">US Removes Uranium From Iraq
July 06, 2008
Associated Press

The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program - a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium - reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" - the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment - was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions.

What's now left is the final and complicated push to clean up the remaining radioactive debris at the former Tuwaitha nuclear complex about 12 miles south of Baghdad - using teams that include Iraqi experts recently trained in the Chernobyl fallout zone in Ukraine.

<snip>

U.S. and Iraqi forces have guarded the 23,000-acre site - surrounded by huge sand berms - following a wave of looting after Saddam's fall that included villagers toting away yellowcake storage barrels for use as drinking water cisterns.

<snip>


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johnnypneumatic Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 01:09 PM
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3. more likely to be nuclear waste dumps, not uranium
such as from the Tuwaitha nuclear plant
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 01:10 PM
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4. That's what the Al Tuwaitha plant was processing....yellowcake uranium.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 01:14 PM
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5. Even more likely
is the large amount of Depleted Uranium used in the Middle East by US forces.

How about a tank gunner sitting his entire tour on a box of DU shells for the tank's cannon?

I am surprised the entire country doesn't glow in the dark at this point.

And that strange amorphous "Gulf War Syndrome?"

Can you say radiation poisoning?

robdogbucky says check it out, although a lot of the information on this is buried, obfuscated and otherwise covered up, it can be found and it is all true and is a big dirty secret about our adventures in the ME.


just my dos centavos

robdogbucky
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 02:25 PM
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6. For your consideration...
Depleted Uranium Contaminates Europe

"Did the use of Uranium weapons in Gulf War II result in contamination of Europe?

Evidence from the measurements of the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE), Aldermaston, Berkshire, UK," reported the Sunday Times Online (February 19, 2006) in a shocking scientific study authored by British scientists Dr. Chris Busby and Saoirse Morgan. The highest levels of depleted uranium ever measured in the atmosphere in Britain, were transported on air currents from the Middle East and Central Asia; of special significance were those from the Tora Bora bombing in Afghanistan in 2001, and the "Shock & Awe" bombing during Gulf War II in Iraq in 2003. Out of concern for the public, the official British government air monitoring facility, known as the Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE), at Aldermaston, was established years ago to measure radioactive emissions from British nuclear power plants and atomic weapons facilities. The British government facility (AWE) was taken over 3 years ago by Halliburton, which refused at first to release air monitoring data to Dr. Busby, as required by law.

- Lauren Moret. The name 'Halliburton' crops up everywhere. Is Halliburton Corporation the real ruler of the world?? Though we never gave them a single vote??

"...Dr. Busby's request for this data through Halliburton from AWE, and subsequently provided by the Defence Procurement Agency, was necessary to establish verification of Iraq's 2003 depleted uranium levels in the atmosphere. These facts demonstrate why Halliburton (AWE) refused to release the 2003 data to him, and it obviously establishes that weaponized depleted uranium is an indiscriminate weapon being distributed all over the world in a very short period of time, immediately after its use. The recent documentary film BEYOND TREASON details the horrific effects of depleted uranium exposure on American troops and Iraqi civilians in the Gulf region in 1991; not to speak of those civilians continuing to live in permanently contaminated and thus uninhabitable regions..."

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AmericanDUST/message/58?l=1


Just my dos centavos

robdogbucky

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 05:49 PM
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7. Here's something
March 12, 2008 at 13:25:42

Death on the freeway: Eulogy for a former KBR-Iraq contractor

by Jane Stillwater Page 1 of 2 page(s)

<snip>

I am here today to tell you the story of Dave Crow and to write his eulogy.

Dave was a well-built and beefy man, a carpenter who could lift 100-pound slabs of sheet-rock all day long and not break a sweat. But then he got lured overseas by all the easy money to be made as a contractor for KBR in Iraq.

"I was only over there for four months," he told me. "I was a truck driver for KBR. The money was good. But our camp was located over the site of a former depleted uranium dump and I got really sick. My body started just wasting away and now I'm weak, unhealthy, living in a trailer outside of San Diego and basically screwed up." He talked to me about his plans to sue KBR because they had reneged on their promise to provide him with healthcare when he came back from Iraq.

After he returned to the States, Dave's life went rapidly downhill. He lost weight. He was ill. He was in constant pain. His girlfriend left him. He drank. And then, apparently, he shot himself.

<snip>


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