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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:31 PM
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The Jackson's An american family was just on this last weekend. Michael's dad was an ass
Edited on Thu Jun-25-09 06:31 PM by greenbriar
and will hog all this attention


Michael is the first Jackson kid to die
not counting Brandon ...Marlin's Twin that died at birth


This is sad


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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:32 PM
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1. As I posted in another thread the ABUSED often grow up to be ABUSERS
Is it so hard to imagine that this happened to Michael?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:36 PM
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2. Don't forget that while his behavior was close to the edge
he was never convicted of a crime. The only people who tried and convicted him were the gentlemen of the press. His judgment was questionable, but he never really knew what normal was.

I think he had a very sad life.

I'll miss him. It was always comforting to know there was an oddball out there who was weirder than I am.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:39 PM
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3. he was never convicted
I seriously believe he thought of himself as a little kid


His music was greatness
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:43 PM
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4. ITA: I'm not trying to cast asparagus on him.
My interior armchair psychologist thinks that he didn't receive love as a child, and so wanted to love children as an adult. To give them what he never got as a kid.

This lead to inappropriate situations/behaviors that maybe he just didn't grasp the seriousness of. I mean, as you say, he never experienced "normal."

Just a really sad story, all around.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:48 PM
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7. i hope you really meant asparagus
because that's the funniest thing i've read all day.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:53 PM
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8. Yes, it's one of the adopted Freeperisms like "screwn"
And yes, a FReeper really did write "cast asparagus" instead of "cast aspersion".

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:53 PM
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9. This is true.
However, were Joseph Jackson's children sexually abused?

Or did the asshole father only physically hurt them (slapping, punching, etc)? Or did he only emotionally attack them (yell at, humiliate, etc)?

If any of the facts surrounding what Father Jackson really did to his kids ever gets out, it may explain what Michael did.

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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 09:41 PM
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18. "only"
I wonder what you mean with that qualifier.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:46 PM
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5. If even half the crap I've heard about how that family was raised ...
... I'm surprised he turned out as normal as he did.

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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:48 PM
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6. watch the TV movie Joseph was an ASS didn't even let the boys go to Rebbies wedding
and really treated ALL the boys like crap
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 06:54 PM
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10. I saw one of those movies.
But don't remember if he sexually abused them.

Did the father ever sexually abuse them?

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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 07:17 PM
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11. This was supposed to be their life story
showed papa jackson being very cruel and the boys ALL of them were very scared of papa


Michael did the video that burned him for his moma and her desire to see all her sons again

also the victory tour for moma


MJ LOVED his mother and alwasy wanted to please her
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 07:18 PM
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12. He was also extremely abusive both verbally and non-verbally
is it any wonder those kids had some problems growing up?
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 07:20 PM
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13. And only Rebbie is married to her original spouse
and her father was so horrible to her at the wedding and refused teh boys to attend
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 07:27 PM
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14. I've always felt really bad for all of them, to be honest
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 08:49 PM
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15. so true
and he cheated on Katherine


pretty much devalued all the women
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 09:19 PM
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16. The guy was scum....I'm not going off on a rant here, I won't nt
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-25-09 09:21 PM
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17. lol...i remember i was in 10th grade when that aired
those two weeks it was all me or my classmates talked about...
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