True Story from the heart of Red Country > Overheard in passing two young men . . .

[patrice]

working on something in the hallway: One guy, " . . . Redneck ways, you know." The other guy, "Yeah, they Never think."

These were workers of the sort that drill holes through walls and do things to cables and such.

[Sanity Claws]

1. Are you saying that people who do that kind of work don't think?

Snobbery is not very becoming to a Democrat.

[Judi Lynn]

6. I would be tempted to imagine the words in quotes represent what they were SAYING

about some people who were NOT there, who could be seen as being like "rednecks."

This would mean they do not identify themselves as rednecks.

Also, you might wonder why the poster wrote "overheard...."

The one thing I DON'T see in that post is that the poster is calling the young men "rednecks." I see it the poster's recognition they distance themselves from simplistic, backward conservatives, feel they have nothing in common with them.

[patrice]

15. You're reading your own stuff in that. Where does it say that I think these two were rednecks.

You surmise, because we live in the heart of Red Country that I think everyone here is a redneck. There is no logic in the sentences that upholds your assumption.

The post says they were two workers working on something and talking about someone(s) else whom they refer to as Rednecks.

To support your view, you must quote exactly from the post where I said the workers are Rednecks.

[EOTE]

17. So what, is your point exactly.

What is it that you're attempting to tell us all about these people you wrote about? Do you think it's slightly odd that no one on this thread has the slightest clue as to what you're attempting to say? I also don't think that anyone here needs a lesson on the appropriate use of quotation marks.

[patrice]

19. My apologies, I get your point now: you DON'T see me calling the workers rednecks in this post.

You DO see it as me noting that the workers regard Rednecks as persons who do not think.

Please Pardon, my surprised over-reaction to being mis-understood.

[here_is_to_hope]

2. Singing "Honky Cat" by Elton John? n/t

[Glorfindel]

4. That's exactly what I thought!

They said, “Get back, honky cat,
Better get back to the woods.”
Well, I quit those days and my redneck ways,
And oh, the change is gonna do me good…

– Elton John, Honky Cat, 1972

[WI_DEM]

3. I don't understand what you're trying to say? Sounds like you heard snippets of a conversation

and are trying to draw conclusions based on that.

[supernova]

5. Not seeing what you thought was odd about that

:shrug:

There are a lot of redneck around here.

;-)

[NeedleCast]

7. Context

Use it.

I have no idea what your OP is attempting to say.

[Hangingon]

8. Oh! I love these "Lets guess what its about threads".

[patrice]

13. That's life; it doesn't come with a dictionary and some of us wouldn't need it if it did.nt

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

9. Ooooh....lemme guess....they are rednecks and don't know it!!!

BWAHAHHAAAAA......stupid manual laborers......pass the white zin, honey......

:sarcasm:

[patrice]

12. Is it possible that people no longer know what quotation marks mean?

Hint: the stuff inside the quotation marks is what the two guys were saying.

at least get an f-ing clue, before you ridicule others.

:insert emoticon for no sarcasm intended here:

[EOTE]

20. That's what I got out of it.

After all, why comment on something as inane as that unless you were trying to suggest that there was some sort of irony in what the workers said. If that wasn't the intent, then this isn't an insulting and classist thread, it's just a stupid one.

[patrice]

24. You are twisting it to your own purposes. Quote EXACTLY where I say what you say I'm saying. Otherwi

se, you are inferring something that is not a logical necessity in the structure and syntax of the letters on the "page".

[EOTE]

33. Once again, I haven't a clue as to what you're trying to say.

But, either you're suggesting that what they're saying is ironic (offensive). Or you're saying what they said without comment (stupid). So take your pick.

[Seldona]

39. It's called being obtuse.

It is not worth your time.

[patrice]

26. P.S. The same mistake two or more times doesn't make it any less of a mistake. QUOTE your

proof from the OP.

[EOTE]

30. You're asking me to cite proof in a post that's two sentences long?

Ummm, no thanks. How about you tell us in a non-cryptic manner what your post is trying to say? I'm guessing that's not going to happen because you only want this post to be read by those who "get it". I get it just as much as I get the lamer runs of Family Circus.

[aikoaiko]

10. huh?

:shrug:

[Occulus]

11. They were a-talkin' bout how ya shoun't spit yer chaw out the window of yer truck

'cuz it gits all over th' sahd 'n makes a big ol' mess

:D

[EOTE]

14. So two working men make a comment about rednecks.

Ahhh, I can see why you find this threadworthy.

[patrice]

16. Yeah, apparently i overestimated reading comprehension around here.

:wow:

[EOTE]

18. Apparently we've all greatly overestimated writing skills around here.

Funny us for expecting a thread to actually be about something rather than reading like an unfunny Gary Larson quip.

[patrice]

22. And who made you God of DU? No need to answer that; it was you.

Authoritarian ways are soooooooo obsolete!

[EOTE]

25. You're the one who slammed the several posters

who couldn't make heads or tails of your incomprehensible post. Rather than realizing it must have been a deficiency with your writing, you slam person after person for not knowing what your post means. There are two ways to interpret your post. Either you think what the workers said was ironic, in which case your post is offensive and classist. Or, you are repeating their words without comment, in which case the post really doesn't mean anything. Take your pick.

[patrice]

28. Definition of "several" please. nt

[EOTE]

31. Definition of "inane", please. nt.

[konnichi wa]

35. It passed way beyond inane. Insipid comes to mind.

:shrug:

[konnichi wa]

27. Like Sanford, you have forgotten the Law of Holes.

Hint: it only gets worse from here one.

[Ignis]

47. I lol'd. Thanks. (nt)

[lumberjack_jeff]

51. No, you overestimated psychic ability.

Simplify as much as possible, and no further.

[Raine]

21. Does this relate to a discussion on Sanford?

I just don't understand the context of it. :shrug:

[supernova]

29. You're not saying *why* exactly

you found this conversation worth noting.

It's just a random, meaningless snippet of conversation.

Unless, you mean to *imply* that two low-wage workers (who according to you are themselves "rednecks") are complaining about the redneckishness of others.

If you do, I would find that incredibly snotty.

edit: Raine, I meant to reply to the OP. :hi:

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

23. 2 laborers a redneck, a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar..................

[Gemini Cat]

32. And the point is?

[EOTE]

34. If you're looking for points, you've come to the wrong thread. NT

[supernova]

36. I guess she thinks it's cute

that the little rednecks are complaining about other rednecks.

That's the only way I can interpret this that makes sense.

[EOTE]

37. Bingo.

If it's not about that, then it's completely pointless. I'm guessing the thread was originally about that. Then she realized what an offensive and stupid thing it was to say, so she just lashed out at everyone else for not "getting" it, or not understanding how to use quotation marks.

[supernova]

40. +1000

;-)

[Gemini Cat]

46. Agree

That was my interpretation of this elitist rubbish pile of a post.

[Gemini Cat]

44. Obviously.

[noamnety]

38. I may as well line up for my insults, too

'cause I haven't a clue what this is about.

(But I am sorely tempted to start a thread about women on DU talking about rednecks!)

[EOTE]

41. You don't get it?

Tsk tsk. Read "Finnigan's Wake" and then come back to this thread. All should be clear by then. If that doesn't work, read "Ulysses", write an extensive book report and then give it another go. If you still don't understand it then, try to make amends for wasting a good 80+ hours of your life.

[Ikonoklast]

42. They must be a couple of blue-collar louts.

I would hold them up to ridicule, also, but I am smarter than that.

Who do you think keeps the infrastructure of this country running?

"These were workers of the sort that drill holes through walls and do things to cables and such."

Yeah, and without them doing these sort of things, would you know how to? Or would you just stare at a blank computer screen in the dark, wondering why there was no electricity?

Hope you never have to deal with such lower-class proles directly. It would be demeaning to have to interact with those lesser than you.

[EOTE]

43. K&R. Come on guys, only four more! NT

[Chorophyll]

45. ...

I rec'd it for you, because it's incredibly entertaining (and such.)

[EOTE]

48. Much thanks!

Oh, and uh, kick.

[EOTE]

49. One more rec, guys! Someone out there has got to have one to spare.

And why the sudden lack of snark from the OP?

[XRubicon]

50. ...

[EOTE]

52. You rock!

Now this thread can finally get the attention it deserves. Then somebody who understands it can finally explain it to me.

[SpookyCat]

53. I just read through the thread hoping for enlightenment,

but I remain blissfully ignorant.

I know what these thingies are " " and I understand the concept of a conversation.

What I don't understand is why you noted this and I would appreciate it if you could give a civil explanation, because so far I've seen no frame for this that doesn't get my hackels up.

As someone who has spent lots of time as "...the sort that drill holes through walls and do things to cables and such." as well as janitorial, package loading and other things that "...workers of the sort..." do, I'm pretty sure I don't care for what I see in this post.

I am willing to be wrong about your intentions, but you need to perhaps explain them without the snark.

Apologies in advance if I'm reading this wrong.