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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 12:35 AM
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Is the battering of Obama taking the heat off our Senators and Representatives?
Are they getting a free ride?

After all these years of observing our elected officials and all our paid employees in Washington and the lobbyists, reverends, military experts, hollow while vile tv hosts, and then reading between the lines to figure out what's really going on - on our own - we have learned plenty about our own elected officials and we are suffering from their positions.

I am one who is fearful and questioning about how we're going to get to the place we thought we would be in by now - with corrections and reversals and overhauls. When I post to a thread about Obama, I believe it is mostly from an "I" perspective - meaning what I was expecting, what I am disappointed in. I don't say 'he' and 'him' with irresponsible accusations. thgought. But, I do ask questions.

I fear that by pummeling him we are avoiding our true problem - the legislative branch. He can be no better in progressing than they are. If we think that one man can do it all, we're fooling ourselves.

By pummeling him - the DLC gets a free ride.

This is a request to consider that we need to give equal questioning, equal blame if that is what some are doing, equal critiques, equal posts, originate and participage in threads equally to say where the problems are - the senators and representatives and the DLC.

We need to free him up by telling it like it is about what the rest of them are doing to prevent what we want.

If you write one analytical criticism about him - balance it out with two about the legislative branch and the DLC Party.

They cannot get a free ride while we tear him apart.

We are still killing people in Moslem Arabic and Non-Arabic countries. I really don't know what our excuse is for Afghanistan. Is he the sole author of this?

We are still torturing in prisons other than Guantanamo (if we believe our leaders). I really don't know our excuse for continuing it. Is he the sole author of this?

I can't justify what we are doing. Death and destruction and the thefts of our structure and our dreams. It comes down to business and thievery. They must get the message. They can't get away with more theft just because their positons are predictable and heavily influenced by the brainwashing they received from the Republicans, lobbyists, combined with the military-industrial DOD and the Baron tier.

We need to get smart about who, how, and where we fight to get where we need to go.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 01:41 AM
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1. K and R ~ now we're talking


Let's take some POSITIVE action instead of knee jerk reactions.

:hi:
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 02:00 AM
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2. I like this toon to go along with what you said
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 02:03 AM
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3. k r
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 08:10 AM
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4. I think the entire body of legislators should get the blame with
Edited on Wed Jun-24-09 08:17 AM by peacetalksforall
exceptions added if some stand out. Everything is fractured by State. We need to fight the body of them, the totality of them. They need to be placed in between us and Obama. The DLC is active within that body and at Obama's side.

We need to state our demands and move away from labeling them left and right. We might have to shift to emphasizing the tiers of poor to rich. We must expose very simply why our representatives oppose a direct solution and fight those representatives as a body - we must expose their corporate allegiances. We are the nation. We come first. We don't have to single them out. Firt them as a block. Then make exceptons.

Dems are not the Second Party for the Rich as judged by their representatives.
Dem representatives can't get a free ride on the history of the Dems.
Dem representatives must be exposed for the entities they support and for all the ways they lean to rich contributors.

They have two allegiances - the rich and the poor. Not the poor robbing rich as in the bail out rich - the rich as in war perpetuators because they didn't make enough during the last nine years. We need to turn their heads around and make them look at us.

If our representatives can so easily fit in with rich Republican representatives, we need to make friends with our Republican counterparts - the ones who can think for themselves who are also hurting.

Hurting doesn't mean just financially. It means in hurting in spirit for the changes that are against us. It means hurting in knowledge of what this country is doing to other people.

Someone on DU quoted the words of a person who said that at the core of every crime is theft.

We can also say that at the core of every hurt is someone making a profit.

Stop the hurting. We need to adjust our political divisions and expose their structure that keeps us fighting each other to the benefit of a few.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 08:26 AM
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5. Change Takes Time...
I'm not gonna yell about ponies, but I do see a lot of impatience in both this administration and the political process. In many ways this is understandable as Democrats, and specifically Liberals and Progressives, haven't had this strong a political tail wind in 40 years. Some want results now without realizing how entrenched the beltway has become and that bringing any real change takes more than 5 months. In many ways, I see President Obama looking at what he can accomplish in 8 years, not 8 months. This means nuanced changes...finding the least points of resistance and picking his fights carefully. For some this isn't sufficient and thus nothing he says or does now matters as they feel betrayed or pushed aside.

In many ways I think the House gets short shrift as they've pushed through a lot of Progressive legislation over the past 2 years, but it easily gets confused with a Senate that still lives in the 90's. The weak leadership of Harry Reid teamed up with a rushpublican party that lost all its moderates and now borders on outright loony has created a byzantine game that makes change and reform difficult. I see having former Senators at the head of the executive as a benefit, as they know how to play the Senate game, but also that they play the game in measured steps...and this is what is frustrating so many who were expecting quick change.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 08:39 AM
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6. They have had a free ride for as long as anyone can remember.
Their reelections are paid for by corporate dollars, in exchange for their doing nothing about the corporate pillaging of America.
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