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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 11:42 PM Original message |
Is the Oil THAT Important? |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. People don't want oil, they want control |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 12:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Petroleum keeps the War Machine humming. |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 12:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I do not think money is power, I think that is an illusion too many people support |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 12:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. It's what Karl Rove believes. And you know what part of the Monkey's anatomy that is. |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Yea, Machiavellian is dark side. |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. Sadly, we sure seem to be. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. What Cheney Energy Task Force Talked About |
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galileoreloaded (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
5. It sucks to say, but for societies the world over, and especially ours... |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. Oil makes the world go 'round. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
7. The Military is either the biggest or one of the biggest oil consuming sectors of the US economy. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. Yes: no oil means no mechanized war. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
8. Who is pushing oil now? This admin? Proof? Thanks. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-25-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
31. ''We can't kill our way to victory.'' -- Adm. Michael Mullen |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
10. Oil is power. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. It's the use of concepts like "good" and "evil" that propagate wars. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
11. Unfortunately, it is |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-26-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
32. What I ask the members of the War Party: What if this was YOUR child? |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
12. "No. It's simple economics. Today it's oil, right?" |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-27-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Ronin |
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excess_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
15. the electric car is coming |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #15 |
36. It was already here. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 04:54 AM Response to Original message |
16. We're dependent on oil |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I second that. |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
17. How else are we supposed to get to work and the grocery store? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
37. Excellent questions. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
18. More important than our lives and Treasury, obviously. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
39. People who howl at paying more at the pump have said nearly nothing regarding war. |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
19. Monsters are kinder ... |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-27-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Airstrike Report Belies 'Blame Taliban' Line -- The Farah Bombing |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
20. Empires fight for the things that make empires possible |
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konnichi wa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
21. The oil is a small part of it. Ask any person at random |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
23. Oil is one reason. Annihilating as many Muslims as possible is the other. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-27-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Do you think the average American would mind if the state was killing White Europeans? |
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david13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
25. If you think it's the oil, how is it that they do not get ANY of the oil? |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. What makes you think they do not get any oil? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
28. If you are running an empire, YES |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
29. Yes, oil is THAT important... |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #29 |
41. That explains why Bush said: 'Money trumps peace.' |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-24-09 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
30. The petroleum economy is the world economy. It's that simple. n/t |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
38. But hey...gas prices should drop once that sweet Iraqi crude hits the market!! YIPPEE!! |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. BP group wins Iraq oil contract |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I've got a BP card and there's a BP station right down the road. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-01-09 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
43. You know - its not the oil, its the money |
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