Illegal immigration saved our cities....

[LeftHander]

From rotting to the core. As American industry left our cities for Mexico and China the communities where the thousands upon thousands of first and second generation IMMIGRANTS lived fell into ruin and decay. Crime and drugs were the only "jobs" left. Enter...illegal immigrants.

They took charge of these forgotten areas and homesteaded them. Rebuilt them.

The NON-TAX paying, greedy companies headed by evil selfish bastards have done more damage to this nation than ANY illegal IMMIGRANT ever did.

Thankfully, these communities are being reborn. With shops, restaurants, goods and services....once abandoned and neglected areas of EVERY MAJOR city have been or are on their way to a new life. A LIFE of families, hard work, faith and community.

Sadly, This board has become a haven of freeper trolls. It makes me almost puke to see some of the vitriol coming from people pointing out that a drunk driver was illegal....what CRAP...TOTAL CRAP GARBAGE...!!!

I say OPEN the borders both ways.....Open our minds and our hearts to a NEW inevitable future for AMERICA...if you FREEPS DON'T LIKE IT....YOU KNOW WHERE THE BORDER IS

>>>>>LEAVE<<<<<<<

You are not wanted in this country. (or anywhere else for that matter)

I would rather have hardworking, joyful decent people by my side, than a bunch of consuming, selfish bigots wasting our space!

[KittyWampus]

1. That's a really sugar-coated version of the impact unrestrained, illegal immigration

has on our economy and society.

BTW, I have loved and worked with many a legal immigrant from South of the border.

And where I live, the newest surge of Latino immigrants (illegal or otherwise) are taking jobs from the Latino immigrants who were already here who, in turn, took jobs from the people who have lived here for a few generations.

That's why there's so many (mostly) Latino men standing around on the street corner waiting for jobs that don't come.

And why the farm land has been sold and McMansions built.

And the housing shortage, which impacted families who've lived here for generations and can't afford the excorbatant tax rates and house prices, has gotten even worse.

But you just keep on being happy with your cartoonish version of the issue. It doesn't help anything. But if it makes you feel "Liberal" then, whatever.

I, myself am for allowing a generous number of peoples into the country.

I am also for putting the screws to powers-that-be that encourage unrestrained, illegal immigration. Those are the people who benefit from forcing labor at lowest possible wages and benefits.

Frankly, I don't think your attitude helps anyone other than the wealthy and corporations who benefit from lowest wages anymore than allowing a youngin to eat as much candy, whenever they want.

[TahitiNut]

2. "cartoonish"

... and then some. :thumbsup:

[LeftHander]

3. Well I guess you need to open your eyes...

And look back to places in our inner cities...they way they looked in the 80's....is much different than today. Or didn't you notice that?? My life is better not from people living in McMansion's in the suburbs but from people who struggle to make a better life for themselves. And who cherish what they have not covet what others have. they have made me realize I was asking for too much and not satisfied with what really matters in life. Truth, community, love, hope and family.

And what is wrong with sugar...the fact is I see more WRONG with limiting immigration rather than encouraging it.

We need to accept that our "American" lifestyle is far above what we deserve and that we have no exclusive right to continue taking what we actually don't deserve. i.e. the bulk of the world's natural resources. As long at people feel they have the RIGHT to take more that is needed then we will always place limits upon others to protect our "RIGHT".

You should start looking ahead and realize that change is sweeping this nation... from immigration, to oil consumption, politics and social justice....it is all related....and there is no way it is going to stop or slow down...we ARE a nation of immigrants legal and illegal and we always have been and always will be.

Unrestrained consumerism and greed nearly killed this nation in one generation. Thankfully we are slowly waking from that nightmare. I am hopeful...we will move forward...and even if we limit, and wall up our borders people will STILL COME HERE....and seek a better life and I am optimistic that most will find it...we need to realize that one person's "better life" may be as simple as a roof, food, access to ANY heathcare and a job that pays even a small amount. Is THAT too much? Sure there will always be problems...but the solution is not to think that we can create a closed Nation for the privileged that historically is not America.

We go forward by looking beyond the needs of one individual or the effects of one individual. Sadly our media and mindset in general in this nation prevents that because we ARE still too lazy and selfish....and that is not sugar....sugar.

[lumberjack_jeff]

4. Well said.

The purpose of a country, deriving from the consent of the governed, is to promote the interests of that country's citizens.

This country's citizens are not well served by unregulated immigration. "sugar-coated" seems excessively charitable.

[LeftHander]

5. And what country do you live in?

FreeperDreamland or America...the melting pot...you know America the country with large percentage of the population soon to retire?

The interests of the few outweigh the realities of the many so it seems.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses..." used to be popular among progressives.

Unfortuntely, it has been replaced by "I got mine and to hell with the poor, tired, huddled masses."

[VP505]

8. Do you seriously

think that this equals "I got mine and to hell with the poor, tired, huddled masses." ??? Two million people legally admitted to the United States each year, 14 percent are from Mexico. Four hundred thousand skilled foreign workers and their families receive H-1 visas each year.

Nearly 900,000 other legal foreign workers are admitted on some type of employment visa. Six-hundred sixty thousand student visas are issued every year. And 455,000 people given temporary employment transfers.

[KingFlorez]

7. It puts an enormous strain on the labor force

How are US workers supposed to find work when people are willing to hire illegal immigrants for low wages? Not to mention they probably are paid under the table. There are people in this country that need work and have a hard enough time as it is getting it, why make it harder by supporting illegals coming in and taking jobs from them?

And our cities are still poor shape, there are areas of larger cities that have zero economic activity which leads to problems, illegal immigrants have hardly fixed that.

[LeftHander]

9. Honey....US workers are more threatened by

foreign competition due to unfair globalized free trade than illegal immigrants, the "work force" argument is vapid.

The jobs taken by immigrants both legal and illegal are for the most part ignored by low income Americans...who feel they are above such work. Thanks to our wonderful media and the right wing nationalists.