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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:04 PM Original message |
Poll question: Chevy Volt, for $40000 |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. $40,000 is about $39,900 past my affordability range. |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. Does it have a kitchen and bathroom? |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. 40K puts one in a wide field |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. I'd buy a 3-year-old Volt for $20,000 but not a new one for $40,000 n/t |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
80. and then you get to pay for replacing the batteries. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. and if there is a god in the Universe a replacement set will cost you $20,000 |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. thankfully, there isn't... |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. If we're meant to be fucked from birth to dead then I've missed out on some valuable fucking! |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Anything metallic an be recycled, including (eventually) the batteries. n/t |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. that doesn't mean that replacing them will be cheap. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. True. n/t |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. No thanks. |
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Baclava (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. For 40 grand you can get a 2007 Corvette Z06 / 505hp LS7 engine |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. See? Now that's thinking! |
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blue_onyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
6. If I was financially able to buy it, I would |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. Lol. |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Heh! I remember when they were promoting this earlier. This price was going to be under $30,000. |
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Indydem (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. It will be (or should be) |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
53. $30K is/was a pipedream. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Seems like it. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
8. Would buy if I could afford it |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
9. A first model of a government-built car? No thanks. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Wasn't this Volt started before the government intervention? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
10. There's no help for poor people when it comes to buying hybrids. |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
11. Shit, you could buy a used diesel Jetta |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
12. If they were to price it competitevly with the Insight and Prius, I would absolutely. |
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Peregrine (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. The Insight and Prius are not the same class as the Volt |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. True but $40K = wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy out of my price range. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
50. seems like it's in the same class |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. A plug in prius with a 16KWH battery capacity likely would be the same price. n/t |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Wholly agreed. |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
13. i like the new pic, Deja Q. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Thx! |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. no, thank you! |
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EndersDame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
64. It is awesome, although I think that Trelane is missing! |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
15. Give Me A Tax Break & A Deduction... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Even the clunker incentive won't help make a dent... |
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lob1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
16. It seems to me I heard it'll only get about 60 miles per charge. |
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Peregrine (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. You do know that at that point the gas engine starts |
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lob1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. If you are right, then wouldn't it be getting more than 60 miles per charge? |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Here's how it works |
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lob1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:33 PM Original message |
Thanks for the info, NickB79. That's a big difference, |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
56. Exactly. |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
21. Call me when they get to $20K |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
26. If I was going to spend that kind of money, I'd go with a Tesla |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. Isn't the Tesla Roadster more like a $100,000? |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Yeah, the Roadster is $100 K |
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sentelle (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
28. whats the rate for leasing |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
30. What they are saying is |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #30 |
67. Not true. |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. And that is true only because these batteries are not mass produced |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #69 |
75. Not mass produced? |
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zeemike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. Mass produced for cell phones but not cars. |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
31. Not on my budget. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
33. they WANT electric cars to fail. |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
34. That's alot of money for a version 1.0 product |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
35. Fact check! The car will be eligible for a $7500 tax break. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. So it will only be $15,000 out of my price range? |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. The average cost of a new car in the US is $28400. The tax breaks makes the Volt $4000 more |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. Right now very few people are buying new cars of any kind, though |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
41. Sure. If they'll giive me $38000 for my '94 Toyota. |
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elmaji (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
42. What! Don't you want to support the unions?!?!?! |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
44. The car is fail. |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
46. What the heck is making the Volt cost $15,000 to $20,000 more than competing alternatives from |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Link to similar models for $20,000? nt |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Warren Buffett is investing greatly in one such car. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. BYD? |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I'll tend to trust Warren Buffett. He wouldn't throw $230 million into a car company to have it |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. another way to look at it... |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Which is why I said maybe it would actually be $30,000 here in the US to 'upgrade' it for US stds. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. You are comparing apples and oranges. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #63 |
74. The Volt will be $32,500 after tax break. Your argument is WAY off base. nt |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:38 AM Response to Reply #51 |
72. Umm, can you say "not street legal in the USA, made in China"? Not even close. nt |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
47. Average cost of a new car in the USA is $28,400. The volt is $32,500 after $7500 tax break. nt |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. That's a little high. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #55 |
73. Then put your fingers in years ears and say, "I'm not listening!" if the facts aren't on your side. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
48. I'll Buy a Used One When Resale Value Hits < $3,000 |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
52. It is more like $32,500.... |
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Stevepol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
57. If we get single payer, the price comes down to $30K |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
60. Needs to be in the 20,000 dollar range to have a mass appeal. |
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Regret My New Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
65. I'll wait until I win one at the mall... |
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crazyjoe (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-22-09 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
66. look at the bright side, it will pay for itself in 30 years or so. |
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jakefrep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
70. Where's the "I'd consider it" option? |
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jschurchin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
71. 40K????????? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #71 |
78. Is your house worth $50K today? n/t |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
76. 40k? Looks like they're trying to kill electric cars in the crib, yet again. |
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tabbycat31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
77. call me when it's 20K |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
79. That is a SHOCKING price. |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
87. Can't afford that, don't drive anyway and |
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Zavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
88. Not a chance. |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
89. What a joke |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
90. insanity |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-23-09 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
92. In a heart beat |
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