TOON: Sunday's Doonesbury - "Stripping A Nation Of Its Own Traditions Of Decency"

[Hissyspit]

[armyowalgreens]

1. There was a letter to the editor in the AZ republic today bashing last weeks DB...

Some dumbass said she didn't get what it was all about. She also said she thought AZ republic should drop the comic. She said it was "too liberal".

Edited for spelling

[The Doctor.]

3. "to liberal"

"to funny".

:)

[armyowalgreens]

4. yeah I fucked that up

[The Doctor.]

29. Oh, no.... I actually thought it was a direct quote...

That's just the sort of thing to expect from freeperville.

[Arkana]

37. "too liberal" = "uses words with more than one syllable".

[PSzymeczek]

45. There ARE those of us who call it

the Arizona Republican.

[howmad1]

48. Naw:

I call it the Arizona Repulsive. Sometimes the "birdcage news".

[TexasObserver]

2. K&R

[Senator]

5. Hello? Mister President?

It saddens me to say that, though he means well, Trudeau is flat wrong.

No criminals -- not even war criminals -- can strip our once-great nation of its decency. Our greater generations fought and died to forge remedies for that, in the form of laws and treaty obligations.

Only the refusal to abide by and enforce those remedies strips our decency. Obama is the steward of our decency. Only he can redeem Our National Soul.

We can only (audaciously) hope that he rises to that challenge.

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[MrModerate]

7. I would like to think you're right, but . . .

Too many Americans believe that "24" is more real than World War II, and if it works for Jack Bauer it must be OK. And a lot more tell themselves "well, it makes me uncomfortable, but if it stops a terrorist . . ."

Have we lost our decency? A goodly amount of it has been leached out by the amoral poltroons of the right. Stripped? Maybe not.

But standing there wearing tatters . . . ?

[Buzz Clik]

9. Brilliant! The criminal doesn't demean the nation, but ...

... not using one's political power to punish one's enemies does demean the country.

Wake up. Think about this -- for the first time.

There are at least five other mechanisms for punishing these criminals that would not involve politicizing the Department of Justice.

I'm guessing you've been told this before, but you're simply too goddam stubborn to let it sink in.

[ooglymoogly]

21. Tut, tut, tut Buzz Click your pug undergarments are showing.

should not wear them on the outside.

[Buzz Clik]

33. Me and my shadow. Too bad DU doesn't issue restraining orders. Oh, wait....

Later, weed.

[Senator]

32. Demeaning the nation is not stripping our decency.

Lots of things can demean the nation. Like referring to people as "one's enemies."

I would be interested to know which of these "five other mechanisms" Obama is promoting and/or implementing. And how they satisfy our treaty obligations and/or enforce our laws.

And FWIW, fear of "politicizing the DOJ" in fact IS politicizing the DOJ. (Yeah, you might have to let that sink in.)

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[lame54]

13. you are flat wrong...

decency has an expiration date - it has to be renewed once in a while

[bjobotts]

49. Since when is "enforcing the law" politicizing the DoJ. Doesn't that make some people above the law

[bjobotts]

50. You said you wanted the job and this is what it entails...ACCOUNTABILITY

[bjobotts]

51. Instead (as usual) we are getting COMPLICITY, SECRECY, COVER UP.

[bjobotts]

52. We will never be able to hold any administration accountable if we fail to do it now.

[bjobotts]

53. If Hitler were American he'd be doing book signing tours and fund raisers for the GOP

[bjobotts]

54. Demand that we call the government on their bullshit, it's too serious to let pass.

[bjobotts]

55. Pelosi's we can't impeach, Obama's we can't prosecute.It would distract from "policy making"

[bjobotts]

56. America's leaders must face their own hypocrisy of putting people above the law

[hootinholler]

14. No. We must demand it.

We must make him either do something or wear the mantle himself.

-Hoot

[Warpy]

16. They can if we don't prosecute them

The only way we can get our decency back is by insisting that there are consequences for violating it.

If we want the rule of law back, we have to insist the law is enforced even on the rich and powerful.

[varelse]

18. If that is true then we are lost (nt)

[pscot]

28. I thought I was voting for a guy with a compass

But since everything still looks familiar, I guess we're just going around in circles.

[OwnedByFerrets]

38. Bullshit. Decent citizens wouldnt stand for torture in their names.

We did and have.

[Senator]

40. Of course they didn't. Don't blame the victims.

Millions of "decent citizens" have been demanding that laws be enforced for literally years. And they have been dismissed and/or suppressed by "political leaders" and the euphemedia -- http://talkingimpeachment.com/blog/Hall-of-Shame-Inductee----Barak-Obama.html">including Obama himself -- for all that time.

The average American is not to blame for being duped by the DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy.

The "Blame Americans First" canard is just another overt rationalization for failed leadership.

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[OwnedByFerrets]

57. Bullshit! We are complicit. Otherwise we would have

been on the streets like those brave people in Iran, rather than huddled in front of our televisions watching AI.

[Senator]

58. Can we skip right to all caps and 3 exclamation points?

I'm not exactly sure what day you were expecting the public to take to the streets, but it's not their fault that the euphemedia they were "huddled in front of" was/is providing no reason for doing so.

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[OwnedByFerrets]

60. Want to try to sound more self important?? Im sure you can do better.

[Senator]

61. Perhaps, but then it might sound like bullsh*t.

[roody]

46. 106 billion for war will not redeem our national soul.

[Solly Mack]

6. K&R

[Buzz Clik]

8. Bummer. Condi pulled a Coulter/O'Reilly and split when she heard the truth.

Must have stung.

[ThomWV]

10. Recommend and Kick this back to the top where it belongs.

[Catshrink]

11. Again, Trudeau nails it.

This was an incredibly powerful strip today.

[CTyankee]

35. Trudeau sounds especially pissed off in this one...

I know how he feels...

[Paladin]

12. Outstanding. (n/t)

[Lugnut]

15. K&R n/t

[dana_b]

17. that's a classic

great commentary.

[AzDar]

19. K & R

[Faygo Kid]

20. One of the best ever. He still has it.

I was going to post this, too, but happy to recommend it instead.

[Wizard777]

22. ROTFLMAO! Too Funny.......in a very serious sort of way.

[greengestalt]

23. How true

The USA should never, ever use torture.
Frankly, we work best by bribery. By first threatening to jail people for long periods of time, then by offering them a lot of money (if the target is high value) along with re-location and a new identity.


The thing is, the USA is supposed to be a country based on ideals. Like "Innocent until Proven Guilty". That was a "Flip the birdie to the King" by literally "Upending" the justice system and not having civilization collapse because a few people aren't thrown in a dungeon for a rumor.


And, look at all the propaganda of how 'evil' the rest of the world is supposed to be, all the petty third world dictatorships... Never mind the "Cold War" created them for the most part.


How in such societies you can be whisked off the street, tortured, executed, jailed indefinitely all without rights or trial. How the leaders are vicious people who care only about themselves. How the economy is in shambles but a few of the richest people live like kings there...


Well, the behavior of the US this last decade just admitted to every "Generalismo Sadismo of the Republica Del Worthlessia" that they were right, that any ideals our founders risked death for were only 'Creatures of Convenience" or "Tools of Propaganda" that were used when good to promote things or claim moral superiority, but could be discarded in an instant.


I hope Obama's able to set things on the right track (again, like Clinton did) but frankly I'm looking to "SeaStead"... If we escape an economic "Perfect Strorm" this time, it'll hit worse when the Republicans lie and cheat back into power.

[winyanstaz]

24. Our Democratic Congress now owns the blood being spilt

as they are still funding these illegal wars.
Obama will also be guilty of war crimes if he does not prosecute now.
He is fast running out of time to rise above this evil.

[Tarc]

26. The Concern Trolls are up today

[winyanstaz]

27. Oh yes, call names, so mature of you.

[Tarc]

59. If the jackboot fits...

[Buzz Clik]

34. A lot of people have trouble understanding what's going on.

It's a big club.

[Hissyspit]

25. .

[FailureToCommunicate]

30. Brilliant Doonesburys recently dealing with the Iraq vet trying to fit back into regular

life. Reminds me of the poignant 1946 movie "The Best Years of Our Lives" with Harold Russell.
The biggest problem those wounded in war have is not usually the disability. It is with the rest of us never seeing past it to the person they were/are.

[hfojvt]

31. "it took two years to book her"

Hence why so many new show interviews are love-fests.

[Hissyspit]

36. Welcome back, DU.

:-)

[pat_k]

39. LOL -- we've been waiting with baited breath.

[Hissyspit]

42. Some people go into withdrawal!

Not me, mind you...

[mzteris]

41. K&R n/t

:kick:

[mrdmk]

43. K & R

[MrMickeysMom]

44. This is one of the few things in the paper to remind us of decency...

... just around the corner?

Please make it so.

[bvar22]

47. You all will just have to Get Over It.

Our President himself has proclaimed that committing Torture is OK.
If you have a note from your lawyer, then you CAN freely torture "in good faith", and NEVER have to worry about any messy Laws or Treaties or other such quaint nonsense.