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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:11 AM
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How the fuck did I GET here???
When I first signed up on DU, I was always squabbling with people who seemed to my left.

Now I seem to be squabbling with people to my right. Often way to my right.

What gives? I don't think my fundamental views have changed. I used to think I was only slightly left of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY's center. Now it seems I am a left wing kook.

:wtf:
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:13 AM
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1. This is no longer DU, it is now OU.
Get on your knees, or leave.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:14 AM
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2. Welcome to DU!
:eyes:

Tell me more about the good old days. :rofl:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:14 AM
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3. Are you chained to a desk?
How can you stand to stay?

P.S. Bullshit.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:16 AM
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4. Well, I know YOU are because I locked you there.
...For three donuts I will disclose the location of the key. Hint: not in the keyboard drawer. :D
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:28 AM
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8. Dingbat
:P
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:22 AM
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6. I have a lot of respect for stinky. you should talk, mr. i'm leaving never coming back and here you
are.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:27 AM
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7. Please show where I replied to Stinky.
I'll wait.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:30 AM
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11. irrelevant sir. I have respect for MNdem as well.
Edited on Fri Jun-19-09 10:36 AM by boston bean
You have on many occasions left DU only to find yourself back here.

Now you question people, who like you, question what has happened on DU. pfft.

and on edit.

please respond to where I said you responded to stinky.

I made a statement that respected stinky. You obviously think people who question what has happened on du should get over themselves and leave. what are they chained to a desk or something.

deal with your hypocrisy.

I will wait.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:32 AM
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12. I hope you're well-provisioned. This could be the mother of all waits.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:43 AM
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14. Sadly, I didn't have to wait at all.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:28 AM
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9. Your post proves that this is still DU.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:17 AM
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5. It's pretty clear the the center of gravity of DU has swung pretty far to the right..
All that leftist pap was all well and good when we were on the outside with our noses pressed against the glass.

Now that we are part of the governing coalition we must become more "serious" in the M$M sense of the word, leftists are never "serious" in that milieu.

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:30 AM
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10. Your views have changed
Now you're one of those crazed leftist yelling at newbs. :D
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:35 AM
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13. The system itself is corrupt. Which party holds power is irrelevant.
"Not as bad" doesn't equal good.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:59 AM
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20. +1. n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:07 AM
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23. !
:thumbsup:
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:36 AM
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26. Why do you hate Obama?
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:47 AM
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27. Probably is not about Obama
may be about how much progressive changes the party in power can accomplish.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:45 AM
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15. Same as it ever was.
Edited on Fri Jun-19-09 10:50 AM by BeatleBoot
Let the days go by (water flowing underground)

Into the blue again (after the money's gone)

Once in a lifetime

There is water undeground.

Same as it ever was

Same as it ever was

Same as it ever was

And look where my hand was.










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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:51 AM
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16. things never can get just right for YOU, can they?
looking forward to the day you catch a break.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:52 AM
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17. We're a bigger tent now
Those who pulled us left have moved on to more progressive boards as the middle-right of the party moved in.

-Hoot
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:56 AM
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18. I know, I feel like I'm the same old wild-eyed radical I always was
believing in things like Rule of Law, Justice, treaties, no torture, investigations/prosecutions , government oversight, universal healthcare, transparency, civil rights for all, which we all commiserated about during the Bush years and took solace from each other. In other words, I was anything BUT radical - I was the norm.

Now, however I am told my very same beliefs are impractical, immoderate, demanding, purist, impatient, undermining, intolerant, leftist, Naderish, bashing, etc.

I didn't change, the tenor and tone of the site has. Most seem to be grateful for the few crumbs that are scattered our way from our now-in-power-yet-still-impotent Dems. We are told that if we are very very patient, yet more crumbs may be tossed at us all in good time. Now, let's look at another picture of Bo and stop fretting about healthcare.

Stinky, I have always enjoyed your orneryness and I hope you don't get ever get the complacency bolt at the base of your neck.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 03:54 PM
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29. Complacency may have been a trait of mine in my younger days
I'm now too old to be able to afford complacency.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 10:58 AM
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19. My observation is that many people confuse "issues" with "politics".
If one wants to be an ideological purist, democratic (small 'd') politics isn't going to be a very rewarding experience. Compromise is part of the plan, and leaders are supposed to try to represent all of their constituents, not an extremist platform.

There are plenty of ways in which one can get involved to try to influence political policy, but failure to adhere to a full and complete purist agenda should not make a legislator/candidate an enemy. John Lewis is my Rep, and there are things that we disagree on, but overall he is still the best Rep I could possibly hope for.

But, we all have to decide when a leader has strayed from the path enough to lose our support.
With issues, the goal rarely changes. You just keep fighting to get there. With politicians, it's not a choice between Candidate (D) and "Perfection", it's between the D and somebody else.

note: Not directed at you, just a general comment.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:01 AM
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21. Power has a remarkable quality of altering opinions.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:05 AM
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22. The party is unabashedly moving to the right.

You're where you was.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:16 AM
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24. Oh stinky, stinky, stinky...
nothing really, I just wanted to say that.

:rofl:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 03:51 PM
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28. And now you seem to have done it!
:)
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 11:17 AM
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25. I feel your pain.
double wtf.
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