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EricSmith Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:25 AM
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An anonymous Indian spills the beans about bodyshops

An anonymous Indian national named "Paul" sent us the following comments about the big Indian bodyshops. For all you Indian fraud IT workers out there who accuse us of being 'racists', your own countrymen are now condeming you:

"Hi
I have been abroad for 15 years and orginally Indian..
Now ..regarding Indian companies. .. these companies should directly be banned like
wirpo,tcs, infosys,satyam..why they are not providing you any service they are just interested inexploiting cheap labour ..

You are saying 6 %...Pay scale if being affected I feel it is 80%....The it industry is just doomed by this industry.. outsourcing.. !! But what they do is scary ..They get enginners ..
who can be fakes ..and with lot of fake experience to sit in their company and they will claim they have that skill,
The European recruiters are much smarter to catch these frauds.

One more thing fake pride is creating a lot of trouble.. I had seen lot of Indians bragging they are the best and all those fake lies which result in people getting annoyed..
The other problem is lies and greediness. is always there in Indian company..I know it is human..But you know what I like in usa..is there are some super rich guys who have set up companies and after making the profit they give to poor ..for some social cause..
that is what is required..

Now regarding city bank ceo vikram pandit ..He will be shipping all the jobs to the Indian outsourcing firm..

I Bet he is doing this ..I hate him cause he is just trying normal Indian tricks to stay in his job..the lie how he said ..i will take only 1 dollar as my monthly pay and then he took monthly bonus which was very high and it just showed his typical Indian nature .

Americans have to be smart to identify the blood suckers..Lot of people trying to suck your blood..wipro,tcs ,infosys are just examples of this..
I had seen how people work here for 4 months and get paid 200 dollars and they wer every happy enginners..THese are the frauds which occur here..

Just telling my thoughts..
Why I like usa.. is they spend a lot of money on research but there are so many blood suckers trying to rob them..which is not fair.

H1 visa should be made in such a manner that these companies should be blackl isted
even still it wont solve the problem..People who set compnaies should be allowed but theere shoudl be a proper audit. .LIke it should not happen the company is set and it becomes a hole from which all ur money goes from your country to some other country..
That is possible cause of outsourcing..

FOr h1 visa normally a person is abused in India too..
I THINK The uk system of hsmp is more intersting they just get the talented guys..directly.and once u reach there unless ur truly talented its then only you get a work permit..
Something shoudl be done by which the companeis wont have a hold in issuing hsmp..
cause it is just a misuse visa..
And when wipro is telling usa to open up the ecenomy tell them to open indian ecenomy first.. they are never open..like you cant buy a american car here in india..it has dutys which is charged 200%....same you can do. atleast for outsourced jobs.
Efforts needs to be done to kick of these outsourcing companies..
They are danger for the full world.

Thanks"
http://guestworkerfraud.com/
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:40 AM
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1. Reads like a poorly-translated owner's manual.
I'm not entirely sure what your point was in posting that...perhaps you could offer a little interpretation for us.

Welcome to DU, by the way.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:59 AM
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3. It's not that good...
More like someone ran a bit of "stream of consciousness" writing through babelfish..

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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:55 AM
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2. If you think that Americans get crappy from CS from outsourced Indian call centers
Imagine the CS that Indians get from their own countrymen.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 09:25 AM
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4. You aren't doing too much to help your cause
when the first thing coming out of your post is:

"For all you Indian fraud IT workers out there who accuse us of being 'racists', your own countrymen are now condeming you:"

followed up by a weird bunch of anonymous shit that looks like it could have been written by a 4 year old.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:12 AM
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5. Can you write Hindi or Gujarati better than an Indian 4 year old?
Those who can do and those who can't criticize. Uh huh.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:52 AM
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8. Actually I can
but I wouldn't post it as an anonymous smear.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:57 AM
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10. "countrymen" indicates nationality.
Your stick needs sharpening.

However, "Indian fraud IT workers" is a glib generalization and could be attributed to racism as much as nationalism. Granted the context of "countrymen", my vote goes to "nationality" over "racism".

Want racism? Find a sandbox and beg George Allen to sit in it with you.

:shrug:
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 02:14 PM
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13. If You Look at the Link,
the comment about racism is an editorial comment by GuestWorkerFraud.com site. (That was not made clear in the way the OP was displayed.)

The remainder of the post was attributed to an Indian working overseas for whom English would seem to be a second language. We don't have all the background, but his commments make sense and are directed at what he believes to be abuses of the outsourcing and visa system. He cites Wipro, TCS, and Infosys as examples of companies that overcharge American firms, use engineers with fake credentials, and keep too much in profits. He admires American research and philanthropy, but feels the Europeans are smarter about detecting outsourcing fraud and about issuing visas.

Obviously the linked poster has a chip on his shoulder but his comments are worthwhile. A lot it sounds like a DUer discussing the American banking industry. :)
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:23 AM
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6. Also from your source "NASSCOM, Premji Buy Off Clinton - Again"
"NASSCOM and Wipro must have really written her a big check..."

"Clinton-era hard drive missing from archives
By admin on May 21, 2009 12:41 AM | Permalink | TrackBacks (0)
How much do you want to bet it was a guest worker/industrial spy who stole it?"

"Cap and Tax Collapse
By admin on April 4, 2009 1:37 AM | Permalink | TrackBacks (0)
Thank God this communist, industry-restricting plan has failed in Congress.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123872261427685233.html
Congress balks at one more bad Obama idea.
Please pass Al Gore a Valium -- and better make it a double -- because his cap-and-trade dreams just took a dive in the U.S. Senate. In a vote late Wednesday, no fewer than 26 Democrats joined all 41 Republicans to insist that any new cap and tax on carbon energy would require at least 60 votes."

Are you sure you're in the right forum?
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:28 AM
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7. do i smell PIZZA??? just in time for lunch!!!
yummy!

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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:57 AM
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9. Um, okay...
:eyes:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:36 AM
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11. IBL. nt
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:28 PM
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12. I think you wrote that.
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 12:28 PM by Richard Steele
This is not genuine 'bad english', it's
an ameteurish attempt to FAKE 'bad english'.

And the words and ideas are remarkably similar to the stuff
you've written on that blog.

I call "shenanigans" on this post.

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