It's incredibly insensitive to say someone's civil rights are your least important priority

[CreekDog]

And bad as it is to say it, if that's really how you feel, you should think about how important your own civil rights are in comparison.

The things I read...

:rant:

[jonnyblitz]

1. that locked poll result didn't surprise me at all. nt

[ThomWV]

2. To be fair the question was a comparative one - of those on the list

[vadawg]

3. it would have been interesting to have let it run without comments to see the totals

sometimes its interesting to see the numbers in any argument.

[CreekDog]

4. would you do that again?

an honest question.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

6. Why did you choose to phrase it as "Homosexual Rights" v. "Civil Rights"? (n/t)

[ThomWV]

14. Here is what I was thinking and why I worded it that way

First off you may have noticed that I said "homosexual's" to indicate possessive - that I meant specifically those issues related to the gay community, things like the ability to marry, partner's insurance, rights in the workplace (including the military) and so on. These I wanted to distinguish from things like voter's right, or race and gender specific issues which I thought to be Constitutional issues.

I'm really sorry if that was confusing or invoked some sort of flame war - which is why it was blocked. Those things were not my intention.

[vadawg]

15. a good explanation of your intent and makes perfect sense.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

18. Just an FYI, in case you didn't realize, "homosexual rights" is a RW term

[WorseBeforeBetter]

28. IIR, every poll option you offered (but for the glaring "homosexual's rights") is something...

that affects people from all walks of life--gays, straights, black, white, employed, unemployed, etc. (e.g., the economy, the environment, ending wars). But for some reason, you decided to single out one very specific group with the "homosexual's rights" option. As others have pointed out, the poll was flawed and a good example of why I usually ignore silly DU polls. "Civil Rights," in keeping with the other not-so-specific options you offered, would have been less discriminatory and more fair.

[Just Saying]

17. My sentiment exactly.

Homosexual rights = human rights

[EFerrari]

5. WTF is the matter with people.

Is there a group of posters here at DU who just go out of their way to slam the gay community -- as a hobby or something? Charming.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

7. Yes...there's an asshole contingent on DU.

And fortunately the mods stepped in and shut down that idiotic poll.

[Starry Messenger]

24. Yes, there is.

We finally just got rid of one, but there are at least a dozen more.

[Vinnie From Indy]

8. Is the OP ALWAYS true?

Should one rank another person's civil rights higher in priority than their right to medical care of they are dying of cancer?

Is another person's civil rights ALWAYS of higher priority than other priorities?

Should one not don their own O2 mask in a burning plane before trying to assist others?

[EFerrari]

13. When you consider that a culture that denies human rights to some

of its citizens is also less likely to provide for less fundamental, more complicated needs like cancer care, the answer is pretty obvious.


/oops

[QC]

9. I think the poll should remain open.

People need to see what sort of place DU has become.

[JVS]

10. I'd be interested in finding out just who voted for that option. I think it might be disruptors.

[QC]

11. I would bet the opposite.

That poll just revealed what the few remaining lgbt members of this board already know all too well.

[PVnRT]

22. No

Including gays in the civil rights umbrella is an OK sacrifice for many here, especially the ODF.

[JVS]

23. ODF?

[zeemike]

12. I guess I missed something.

A poll I guess that offended someone.
But that is a general sweeping statment..."It's incredibly insensitive to say someone's civil rights are your least important priority"
That does not always apply unless all things are equal.
For instance if someone is loosing there home is out of a job and about to be on the street living in their car, how can you say that they are insensitive because someones civil rights is not their first priority?
It seems more like incredibly insensitive to expect them to hold civil rights as a first priority in their situation.

[hvn_nbr_2]

20. This is one of several threads trying to continue a locked thread. IBTL. nt

[Blue_In_AK]

16. I have to agree with you.

I was stunned by the results of that poll.

[CreekDog]

19. me too

and horrified.

[QC]

21. Why are you stunned?

Honestly. The few remaining GLBT members of this community are not surprised at all. That's what this place has become in the past couple of years.

[Blue_In_AK]

25. I guess I hoped DU would be better than this.

The topic is front and center in my mind right now because the Anchorage Assembly is considering an equal rights ordinance covering the local GLBT community. http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/anchorage/city_election/assembly/story/832195.html It's been a real eye-opener how homophobic some people in this town are ... I guess equal rights aren't all that important for some DUers either.

[QC]

26. I wish I could say that I thought people here were better than that,

but the past couple of years have taught me different.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

27. I must have missed it

the poll that was locked.

But it does not surprise me at all --- I see it every day here- Your civil rights can wait until the bigots change on their own --- (until hell freezes over) because your gay issue just is not as important as MY issues... MY issues take precedence --- so just run along and wait for another 10 or 20 years.... then maybe you gay people can have YOUR (idiotic and unimportant) civil rights.

Amazing though. :eyes: