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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:09 PM
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Holy Crap! NASA To Blow up the MOON!!!!!
http://www.siliconvalley.com/ci_12590357

In an unprecedented scientific endeavor — and what may be one of the coolest space missions ever — NASA is preparing to fly a rocket booster into the moon, triggering a six-mile-high explosion that scientists hope will confirm the presence of water.

The four-month mission of the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite (LCROSS), which will be directed from NASA's Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, is to discover whether water is frozen in the perpetual darkness of craters near the moon's south pole. As a potential source of oxygen for life support and hydrogen for rocket fuel, that water would be a tremendous boost to NASA's plans to restart human exploration of the moon.

But the launch is scheduled for Thursday at Cape Canaveral, Fla. It was delayed a day to allow repairs to the space shuttle.

http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/06/16/1556254/NASA-To-Trigger-Massive-Explosion-On-the-Moon-In-Search-of-Ice

"NASA is preparing to launch the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, which will fly a Centaur rocket booster into the moon, triggering a six-mile-high explosion that scientists hope will confirm whether water is frozen in the perpetual darkness of craters near the moon's south pole. If the spacecraft launches on schedule at 12:51 p.m. Wednesday, it will hit the moon in the early morning hours of October 8 after an 86-day Lunar Gravity-Assist, Lunar Return Orbit that will allow the spacecraft time to complete its two-month commissioning phase and conduct nearly a month of science data collection of polar crater measurements before colliding with the moon just 10 minutes behind the Centaur."
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:12 PM
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1. Oh crap, now the crazy astrology lady is gonna moan again. n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:22 PM
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19. Intergalactic lunar rape jokes are not funny.
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 01:22 PM by Renew Deal
:spank:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:25 PM
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:37 PM
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Can't...stop...laughing.....
I'll have to join Letterman's support group.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:39 PM
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32. Oh my...
:rofl:

Sid
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:47 PM
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41. I think I just peed. n/t
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:15 PM
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84. LOLOL! nt
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 08:46 AM
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140. Your user name makes this thread even more hilarious!
:D

:rofl:
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 11:22 PM
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125. Great!
:lol:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 02:09 PM
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:58 PM
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115. TOO funny. :p n/t
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 08:49 PM
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119. Stop laughing. They're getting ready to blow up the
crystal dome that encircles the moon. The dome proves alien technology (or that we were up there eons ago).

See the book "Dark Mission" if you think I'm making this up.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:46 PM
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39. The moon is, like, ALIVE man
It's like a whole CIRCLE of livingness and and lightitude.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:47 PM
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40. This is gonna fuck up SOOO many periods. nt
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:48 PM
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42. HAHAHAHAHAH
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:49 PM
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43. Think of the Werewolves!
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:13 PM
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81. self-delete
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 03:15 PM by dorkulon
wrong place.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:32 PM
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107. NASA: 50,000 PMS related homicides expected
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:54 PM
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47. It's a simple question:
If the moon were made of cheese, would you blow it up to determine if there is water under the surface?
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:05 PM
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53. If the moon were made of cheese, I'd have eaten it long ago (n/t)
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:15 PM
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83. What kind of cheese?
If it's Velveeta, nuke the fucker. Roquefort? Give me a baguette and step back.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:53 PM
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105. "Moan' - Ronald Reagan's Dead Republicon Astrologer*



* Courageously channeled by the intrepid SpiralHawk from the vast netherworld of Republicon occultism.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:13 PM
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2. Wait a second
If there is water, there's not that much of it. This undisturbed water might contain useful scientific information about the origins of the solar system, so firing a fuel-laden rocket into it has that downside. Also, if this is hoped to someday serve as drinking water, etc., rocket fuel has some really nasty compounds in it and this could make the water unsuitable for human use. Any ideas for a more prudent way to check out the situation?
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:20 PM
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15. You may have a point about disturbing pristene water
because of the loss of scientific information.

I'm not so sure that contamination is an issue as far as future usability is concerned. This water may be from come comets, asteroids, etc. and may already be contaminated with nasty organic compounds and other stuff, so it would probably have to go through a purification process before human consumption anyway.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:20 PM
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16. It's not a "fuel-laden rocket."
The probe will be the spent final stage of the launch vehicle. All the fuel will have burned off in the process of leaving Earth. The lunar orbiter basically crash-lands that big chunk of metal into the lunar surface to throw up a plume of impact ejecta for analysis.

And any imaginable scenario for using lunar water deposits for drinking involves all sorts of purification anyway, so the remote possibility of some small portion of it being tainted is pretty immaterial.
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ddiver Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:35 PM
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27. There's a reason this isn't in the science forum.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:06 PM
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154. ROFLMAO! I should forward this to the Center Director.
:rofl:
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:37 PM
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29. Deep Impact:
http://www.space.com/deepimpact/



Along those lines.

I wonder why the sudden push to the moon.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 01:11 AM
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126. It must be Planet X.
They're really going to shoot it down. The Moon is cover.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:06 PM
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155. Lunacy. n/t
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:38 PM
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30. comets contain the orgins of the solar system
and if we actually EVER used the moon for drinking water, by then I'm sure we would have the technology to clean it....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:13 PM
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3. Thank god, finally
That glowy fucker's been keeping me awake.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:17 PM
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9. LOL! :-)
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 01:12 AM
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167. The guy in the pic might actually be able to survive the Van-Allen-radiation belt! n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:14 PM
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4. NASA lives in a space helmet of sexism.
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 01:13 AM
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168. Nazism! Dorner, von Braun... n/t
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:15 PM
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5. They were going to do this in the 50's with Nukes.
http://www.space.com/news/spacehistory/nuke_moon_000514.html

The U.S. Air Force developed a top-secret Cold War plan to detonate a nuclear bomb on the moon in the 1950s.

In a letter to the journal Nature, physicist Leonard Reiffel, leader of the effort which was called Project A 119, wrote that the Air Force wanted to explore the effects of exploding a nuclear bomb on the moons face. The Air Force wanted the explosion to be clearly visible from Earth.

Reiffel wrote that the military leaders did not seem concerned with the loss to science that would have resulted from a large atomic explosion on the moons surface. Let alone what it may have done to the appearance of the "man in the moon."

Part of the team researching the hypothetical explosion was a young Carl Sagan, who was recruited to study how the mushroom cloud would expand and collapse under the moons lighter gravity. Sagan proposed that a legitimate scientific purpose for the explosion could have been examining the cloud for possible organic material.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:16 PM
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6. Is this happening in 2012?
One wonders.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:17 PM
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8. They were going to launch on Thursday.
But had to delay for repairs
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:51 PM
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74. Well then delays for a few years and
watch out! Lucifer's Hammer, 2012, be there or be square!
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:05 PM
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152. But the repairs were on the Shuttle. Then, they scrubbed the shuttle launch
because of lightning during the hydrogen fueling. So now, both are late getting off the ground.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:20 PM
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13. It should have happened in 1999
Commander Koenig had the Eagles all ready to launch. Yes, I'm a nerd.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:23 PM
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22. Space 1999 represent!!! Nerds unite!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:58 PM
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49. I was so bummed when Copps sold out of Space 1999 lunch boxes.
:rofl: That I can still feel the disappointment 30 odd years later.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:04 PM
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52. I was wondering if anyone would get the reference
I thought I was the only person who even remembered Space: 1999 (colon added for maximum nerdiness).
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:08 PM
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56. We nerds are *everywhere*
:D
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:43 PM
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68. Ah... Launch interceptors!
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 03:22 PM by cascadiance
Oh wait, that was the earlier UFO series, not Space: 1999



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE-aBcfs854&feature=related


Space: 1999 was a great series and also started the trends towards colored hair!





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAt60HrSkzI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DF9nDJZrdA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqdMmH7UE_s

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-3Utgq0yhk9Y/space_1999_requiem/

BTW, if you're looking for old Space: 1999 souvenirs, try Monsters in Motion... Here's a search page that might be helpful...

http://www.monstersinmotion.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=space+1999&x=0&y=0
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:00 PM
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77. Thanks for the links.
I think I'll have to get that lunch box one day. I'll put it next to my Battlestar Galactica one that I got that a couple of years later. :hi:
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Franzia Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 08:14 PM
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117. I still have my Space: 1999 lunch box.
Along with my brother's Black Hole lunch box.

Still in pretty good shape.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 08:27 AM
Response to Reply #117
138. I used to have a toy Eagle
Though for some reason, the pointy cockpit bit was painted metallic green instead of white.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #117
148. Lucky duck on both counts!
I did see the Black Hole in the theater (along with everyone else our age!) :D
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 01:38 AM
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128. ...
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:17 PM
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7. Poor Moon....
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:18 PM
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10. The moonbats aren't gonna like this.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:17 PM
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87. Rapture ready index: +50000!
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:02 PM
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151. Destroying the lack of evidence that they went to the moon in the first place, perhaps? n/t
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:18 PM
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11. "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." How stupid is this, to blow up...
... the Moon? or any planet? I mean :wtf:

Hekate


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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:20 PM
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14. It's not actually going to blow up the moon, btw.
Oh, and the moon is not actually a planet.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:22 PM
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20. They arent blowing anything up. Good grief.
We're gonna drop a chunk of metal onto the surface and analyze what it kicks up.

Christ.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:31 PM
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25. The reactions are reminding me of Pluto's "demotion"
I was talking to a few people eyes-deep in astrology who thought that instead of recategorizing the thing, NASA had actually destroyed Pluto physically.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:53 PM
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46. I destroy the moon every time I stop looking at it.
Quantum Physics has PROVED it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :crazy:

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:45 PM
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38. You don't really think they're blowing up the moon, do you?
"why, to do that it would take a thousand ships with more firepower than I've ever---"

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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:43 PM
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67. Wow, the lack of scientific understanding here can just be amazing
GIVE ME ALL YOUR MONEY OR I WILL BLOW UP THE MOON! SRS!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:46 PM
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71. He that breaks a thing to see how it is made...
...has left the path of wisdom.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #71
80. Some applause is heard in these quarters
For a comment I enjoyed. Am copying to my "quotes" journal.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:14 PM
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82. It's Tolkien
I can't remember exactly where but I'm pretty sure Gandalf said it to Saruman.
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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #71
114. Really?
Scientists have been doing exactly that for decades with particle accelerators. Think they have "lost their wisdom"?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #114
116. Faulty assumption. nt
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #114
124. Relax, man. It's Gandalf
It's an important thing to at least have in the back of your mind when you're designing an experiment, though.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #124
141. It's the difference
b/w parts and systems
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #71
149. Indeed. You put it much more felicitously than I ...
Also, she who posts in haste repents at leisure. :eyes:

Hekate


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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:17 PM
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88. Please tell me this isn't a serious post.
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 03:18 PM by woo me with science
Fund education now, please.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:55 PM
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112. I DO NOT THINK THE MOON IS GOING TO BE BLOWN UP IN A CLOUD OF GREEN CHEESE
I simply think it may be counterproductive to do what they are planning to do. For a variety of reasons.

Hekate


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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 08:42 PM
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118. Give us just one this "variety of reasons." nt
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 01:46 AM
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170. Yeah, I pretty much figured you'd have nothing to share. nt
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 03:15 PM
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147. "i'm no NAIL so u cn stfu, Nasa an u earth NOOBs" -- Chaz Grassley
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:20 PM
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12. Somebody needs to make them watch
"The Time Machine," the 2002 remake with Guy Pierce. Maybe they'll decide not to screw with the moon?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:21 PM
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17. Oh, yeah, amazing movie. Very educational.
I had no idea the moon was two dimensional.

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:17 PM
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89. Or just this:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 08:44 AM
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139. My first thought.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:48 PM
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160. Endorsed by President Guy Whitey Corngood
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:21 PM
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18. Protect us from hyperbolic overreactions. (nt)
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:23 PM
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21. Too late.
The moonbats have beaten you here.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:30 PM
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24. Retroactively protect us from hyperbolic overreactions! (nt)
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 01:48 PM
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142. Who are you
praying to? :shrug:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:32 PM
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26. Yay! Free cheese from the sky makes this Wisconsin girl's dream come true. n/t
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:09 PM
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57. Mine too..I hope
it tastes better than that shit in the can.

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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:36 PM
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90. It better be a like fantastic roquefort or brie.
I'd fall to pieces if Moon cheese was the equivalent of velveeta. :cry:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 04:38 PM
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97. Wow. Don't you know your science? It's not roquefort, brie or Velveeta..
The cheese of which the moon is made is GREEN.



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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:11 PM
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120. So what's green cheese....
Bleu cheese before it ripens?


:7

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:37 PM
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28. Alexander Abian, internet legend
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 01:47 PM by bananas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Abian

Alexander Abian (January 1, 1923 – July 1999) was an American mathematician who taught for many years at Iowa State University but who became an Internet legend for his incessant and frequently bizarre posts to various Usenet newsgroups.

<snip>

Abian gained a degree of international notoriety for his claim that blowing up the Moon would solve virtually every problem of human existence. He made this claim in 1991 in a campus newspaper.<1> Stating that a moonless Earth wouldn't wobble, eliminating both the seasons and its associated events like heat waves, snowstorms and hurricanes. Refutations were given toward that idea by NASA saying that part of the exploded Moon would come back as a meteorite impacting the Earth and causing sufficient damage to extinguish all life, while restoring the seasons in the process. Just before he died, Abian said that "Those critics who say 'Dismiss Abian's ideas' are very close to those who dismissed Galileo".<2> This claim and others, made in thousands of UseNet posts during the last portion of his life, gained Abian mention (not entirely favorable) and even interviews in such publications as Omni, People, and The Wall Street Journal.<3>

<snip>

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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:45 PM
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110. I knew the good Professor...
I was a physics/math/computer engineering major at ISU during the 80s. I never had him as an instructor, but was in several math classes with his daughter, a brilliant and lovely young woman.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:38 PM
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31. the Mooninites are gonna fuck NASA's shit up!
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:39 PM
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33. Does this mean the Man in the Moon is going to have a moustache?
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:15 PM
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58. If he does, rides will be available I'm sure.
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 02:16 PM by GoneOffShore
I'm really really sorry for that.

I probably shouldn't have posted it.

The purity police are knocking at my door right now.

Self :spank:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:23 PM
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64. Thank you, David Letterman.
:spank: :rofl:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:39 PM
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34. We must quickly construct a Space Dworkin to stop this interplanetary phallus problem. nt
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:40 PM
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35. It was always lookin at us wrong anyway, needs a smack upside the head
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:42 PM
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36. I wish they'd write "CHA" on it in huge letters.
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 02:24 PM by dorkulon
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MyUserNameIsBroken Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:03 PM
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51. Don't forget the bite...n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:14 PM
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103. ...
:thumbsup:
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:44 PM
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37. They should make a smiley face pattern on the moon.
Or sell ad space to beer companies.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 08:22 AM
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137. Arthur C. Clarke: "Watch this space"
Please let this be one aspect of science fiction that *doesn't* come true!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:49 PM
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44. Probably funded by Big Pharma
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:50 PM
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45. Fuckin' Lunesta, I'm willing to bet. nt
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:44 PM
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70. +1
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 01:05 AM
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171. ...
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:55 PM
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48. I bet we finally find that underground Nazi base thats been there since the 40's.
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:01 PM
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50. America can, should, must, and will blow up the moon.
When I was a boy, blowing up the moon was just a beautiful dream. Now its science fact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csj7vMKy4EI
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 04:32 PM
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95. "Since the dawn of time, Man has yearned to destroy the ..."
oh, wait, that was the Sun.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 04:45 PM
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101. You don't mess around with God's America!
You beat to posting the first thing that came to mind when I saw this thread.
Bob and david really captured the feel of the U.S. under Bush - even though the sketch was done in 1996.
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:05 PM
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153. Damn right! Tides piss me off!!! n/t
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:07 PM
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54. to all the comedians on this thread... thank you n/t
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:07 PM
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55. So if they blow up the moon, does that mean
we'll have to give songs a different title?


"Blue chunk of rock in the sky"

"Small round dustball River"


"Fly me to the leftover crater floating in the sky"


"Dark side of the shiny little sandball revolving around the earth every 28 days"


Just think of the trouble it'll be to change the lyrics!


:cry:
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:17 PM
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60. Don't forget Blew Moon!
:woohoo:
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:38 PM
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91. We'll have bigger probs than that--like the earth rolling off its axis
you know, suddenly Ecuador being the north pole, stuff like that. I think we should all panic now. :woohoo:
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:15 PM
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121. I'm sort of looking forward to it...
I'm in the Hilltowns of Western Mass...it would be nice to have oceanfront property

:party:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 04:40 PM
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98. By the light of the silvery dust.
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:07 PM
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156. Change the context to dropping one's pants and one's underpants! n/t
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:16 PM
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59. Phew... at least we didn't establish a base on there in 1999!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:19 PM
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61. Prince Zordar and the Comet Empire strike again!
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:22 PM
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62. Wow...no Mr Show fans here?
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:36 PM
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65. Please refer to post #50.
And don't mess around...with God's America.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:11 PM
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79. LOL indeed
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:44 PM
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69. That's what I was thinking...
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 02:47 PM by gmoney
Brilliant stuff... "we're earthlings, let's blow up earth things"
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 01:04 PM
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164. Here! heh heh! n/t
PB
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:22 PM
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63. Too late...it's been done already:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:40 PM
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66. Cool, we'll have a ring system like Saturn!
:woohoo:
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:48 PM
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72. The moon people will shoot it down. Don't worry.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:10 PM
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102. Nah it will problably hit him right in the eye!
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:49 PM
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73. Why?
Why are we blowing up the moon?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 04:35 PM
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96. We aren't
As for why they're planning the experiment, you could always read past the subject line of the OP.
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:30 PM
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106. Um, maybe watch this before any more earnest chiding.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:15 PM
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104. Monkey Demands Answers!!!
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:54 PM
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75. There must be oil under the surface. That's why we usually bomb places.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:16 PM
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86. Drill baby drill! nt
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 05:26 AM
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134. Only I get to tell him that!
He thinks the fake bun and the glasses are really hawt, dontchaknow. :evilgrin:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:59 PM
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76. Oh Paleeeeze. We're not blowing up the moon.
Any idiot knows we can't even get to the moon let alone blow it up.

They'll do a CGI thing in Hollywood and NASA will post it on their website. Meanwhile, all the money for this project will go to some secret CIA/NSA project.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:01 PM
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78. This unchivalrous conduct toward the moon is going too far with this!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:16 PM
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85. OMG!!! This is Mr. Show come to life!!
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jmondine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:46 PM
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92. ... with an Illudium Pew-35 Explosive Space Modulator?
"Oh, that makes me very angry!" (pace, pace,pace)
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 04:30 PM
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94. You talking to me?...
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:00 AM
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173. Jason, don't you ever just get tired of getting duzys?
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:51 PM
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93. "I don't know lad. Its like no cheese I've ever tasted before."
- Wallace.
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Just Saying Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 04:41 PM
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99. Would you miss it?
Sorry, lame Austin Powers reference.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 04:41 PM
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100. "...for no adequately explained reason"?
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:52 PM
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108. Out of Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulators, I see...
The moon's not blocking our view of Venus, though, so it's okay.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:34 PM
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109. I wonder how this will affect my astrological chart
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:47 PM
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111. That's not blood, that's God's semen.
:eyes:
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:56 PM
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113. Boy I hope they know what they're doing
The moon is so incredibly unbelievably important to our planet, and the balance might be really delicate.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 02:36 AM
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130. Maybe someone/thing will guide us at the right time...


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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 09:33 PM
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122. Only way to stop the "The Alan Parsons Project"
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NJGeek Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 10:07 PM
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123. America can, should, and will blow up the moon.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 01:20 AM
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127. Those same turkeys sent a probe smashing into a comet !!!!!
They must be stopped!
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 02:21 AM
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129. The Aliens are gonna be pissed, man... get ready for intergalactic war

"A certain professor, who wished to remain anonymous, was
engaged in a discussion with Neil Armstrong during a NASA
symposium.


Professor: What REALLY happened out there with Apollo 11?



Armstrong: It was incredible, of course we had always
known there was a possibility, the fact is,
we were warned off!(by the Aliens). There was
never any question then of a space station or a
moon city.



Professor: How do you mean "warned off"?



Armstrong: I can't go into details, except to say that
their ships were far superior to ours both in
size and technology - Boy, were they
big!...and menacing!
No, there is no question of a space station.



Professor: But NASA had other missions after Apollo 11?



Armstrong: Naturally - NASA was committed at that time,
and couldn't risk panic on Earth. But it really
was a quick scoop and back again.


Armstrong confirmed that the story was true but refused to
go into further detail, beyond admitting that the CIA was behind
the cover-up."


http://www.sacred-texts.com/ufo/moonbase.htm


:hide:


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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 05:14 AM
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131. It's really gonna suck if the moon just pops like a giant beach ball....
and flies off into space.
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ControlledDemolition Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:11 PM
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157. The Soviets recorded the moon's response to a previous impact... "It rang like a bell!". n/t
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 05:20 AM
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132. How much is this going to cost?
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 05:21 AM
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133. The aliens living on the dark side of the moon are going to be pissed..nt
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 05:28 AM
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135. This thread needs more input from teh Indigo Children. Somebody please xpost to Astrology
so they can bring the lulz. Thanks!
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 06:43 AM
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136. I'l say it. White man's disease.
Must.break.everything.:banghead: :hide:
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 03:11 PM
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145. Wow. You're racist AND stupid!
Nothing is being broken. We're dropping a chunk of metal into the dust. No harm will come to the moon.
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:02 PM
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158. Wow. You're hypersensitive AND humorless AND arrogant!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:26 PM
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159. To see how it works.
That's why they think everything is lifeless. :spray:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:53 PM
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161. So you're saying that black people are ignorant and incurious.
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:58 PM
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162. Wow. You're racist AND stupid!
balance.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 01:00 PM
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163. Hey, don't get mad at me.
I wasn't the one claiming that science was limited to white people.
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 04:14 PM
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165. ;)
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 02:18 PM
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144. k/r
This thread is hilarious. :rofl:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 03:13 PM
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146. Ha-ha! Fuck you, moon! Who's more powerful now, huh? Who's the fuckin man now?
Earth - 1
Moon - zilch. :rofl:
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 08:58 PM
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150. Get that moon the hell out of here. Damn light. Can't sleep at night.
So our planet will wobble crazily and we will all die very quickly, but isn't that worth one night's sleep?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 04:18 PM
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166. Times are tight, we need the cheese. n/t
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-19-09 01:13 AM
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169. Apparently AMV Hell predicted the future
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DatManFromNawlins Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 03:00 AM
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172. I AM GONNA HOLD OUT MUH PIZZA CRUSTS ON WEDNESDAY FOR DA WELL AGED CHEESE!
Gimme some of dat 6 billion year old gouda, man!
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