Batshit Effing Crazy MSNBC host Carlos Watson: GOP death spiral greatly exaggerated, GO JEB 2012!!!

[Amerigo Vespucci]

MSNBC host Carlos Watson appears to believe that claims of a “GOP death spiral” have been greatly exaggerated. As Watson sees it, the news media will make sure that recent self-appointed GOP spokesmen like Rush Limbaugh are swept aside in favor of more traditional party leaders — leading up to a return in 2012 to the familiar Bush brand name.

“Rest assured, the GOP”s not going to fade into oblivion, Watson stated on Monday as he laid out the scenario for a GOP “five-stage comeback.”

“Stage One is what I call the Lord of the Flies period, where Newt, Rush, and everyone runs around and says crazy things,” Watson began. “But we know they jumped the shark with the Sotomayor criticism — and that has already led to Stage Two.”

According to Watson, Stage Two will be dominated by TV and newspaper “editorialists” like Joe Scarborough, David Brooks, and Peggy Noonan, who will “call for calm” over the next several months.

“But then here comes Stage Three later this fall,” Watson continued, “when we’ll start to hear more names of potential presidential contenders and maybe even party leaders. … Stage Four will come next year when a rising star becomes the flavor of the month.”

“But when all is said and done,” Watson concluded, “after the 2010 election — get this — I predict that all roads will eventually lead us back into the Bush. Jeb Bush, that is, as he emerges as the new GOP front-runner.”

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/06/15/watson-jeb-bush-will-be-gop-front-runner/

[marmar]

If the American electorate is dumb enough to put another Bush in the Oval Office....

..... I swear I'm leaving.

[ck4829]

1. "five-stage comeback." Um... Mr. Watson, cancer only has four stages.

[ThatPoetGuy]

7. Niiiiice!

This should win a DUzy!

[chimpymustgo]

2. And I think he's absolutely RIGHT. Look at the Joe Scab "reasonable rethug" media tsunami.

We have moved into Phase 2.

Ignore this at your peril.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

8. A reasonable case can be made for Phases 1 & 2...

...but after that?

I know, I know. George W. Bush had two terms in office. But JEB in 2012? Is there REALLY the possibility that as a nation we could be THAT...EFFING...STUPID?

[glitch]

16. Nope, but that doesn't mean the media can't create the circumstances which make Jeb "plausible"

and that is all they need. The corrupted polling/election systems will take care of the rest.

If they can make George 2004 plausible the can make Jeb 2012 plausible.

edit: TOLD YA ALL SO.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

21. It all starts with plane-jumping "hero" Poppy Bush

How much freeper seed was spilled over his birthday jump?

There is a deep-rooted desire in this country to turn a blind eye to the manner in which Prescott Bush established the "empire."

As long as Bush is the money shot in our country's porn fantasy, Jeb will have a shot at 2012. Or 2016. Or any date after that.

[glitch]

32. I think Bush support is entirely manufactured, and has been since Prescott.

Face it, they aren't the brightest, they don't have looks or charisma.

But they do have the power formula down pat certainly: instill panic then provide any kind of "daddy" figure for relief. And it that doesn't actually work they can fake it with the media blitz telling us it does and corrupted election systems to back them up.

And once again the Bushes get the public power franchise of the Presidency, mainly because they crave the attention and think they deserve it but also because so few of their backers want a) their own names publicly known and b) to not allow the Bushes something they crave is very, very high risk.

I don't think Palin would be the VP though, I think they've decided they're too unstable. Stupid enough to try and stage their own coup. Wouldn't it be funny (not funny ha ha) if they decided Liz Cheney, yes I said it, Liz Cheney, was their best bet?

And then we would know for sure, yes we are in fact caught in a time loop paradox and implosion is our only chance for escape.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

35. If it's not Palin, it will be "another" Palin, and yes...that Palin might be Liz

It's the whole Reagan thing, the image thing...remember how Fred Thompson was supposed to be the new Reagan, but he couldn't stay awake on the campaign trail?

:rofl:

[glitch]

36. And we were all wondering if they were trying to throw the election to the Democrats.

The caricatures they were throwing out there, McCain, Palin, Thompson, Romney, I don't want to bother my beautiful mind remembering the rest, all stick figures.

Did they throw it intentionally or were those really the best they'd got? were they just throw-aways since they knew they couldn't win it after Bush/Cheney trashed their brand so badly. Take a breather while they attempt to rebuild their image, seems most likely.

Seems a bit early to float Jeb but then again maybe this guy jumped the gun. We'll know if it gets any traction with the other poppets.

[CJCRANE]

3. delete

[Skip Intro]

4. Another bush would almost be as good as a Palin.

But the sad truth is there is a solid core of Democrat-haters who'd vote repuke if they ran Satan (again).

[Duer 157099]

5. Bush/Cheney 2012 no doubt

I have no doubt they'll run that ticket.

And I suspect they may succeed in stealing the election, again.

[ck4829]

6. Coincidentally, that would save a lot on advertising

Maybe the Republicans don't have any money anymore.

[glitch]

33. Not Dick though, Liz.

My bet is she'll get a lot more face time in the corporate media between now and then.

[NightWatcher]

9. (Jeb) Bush/Palin 2012. I giggled so much at that idea, that I tinkled a little

Puhleeze

[babylonsister]

10. Yea, he's batshit until he's proven right. I don't think this is that

outrageous, sadly.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

13. I can intellectualize it...I just don't want to believe it.

It requires taking a good, long, hard look at the frigging moron who occupied the Oval Office for the last eight years.

And if there is one thing we know about lightning, it's the fact that it CAN strike twice in the same place.

"President Jeb" is Poppy Bush's wet dream. It could come true. But dear GOD, if we put that block-headed lardass in office, we DESERVE whatever we get in return.

People like to piss and moan about what George W. Bush "did to us" and "did to our country" and "did to our standing in the world," but the truth of the matter is that after his first term, when we knew WHO HE WAS and WHAT HE WAS, we were too weak...or too stupid...or two weak AND stupid...to prevent lightning from striking twice.

So it did.

And President Obama, regardless of his strengths and potential, stepped into the job in the role of janitor, clean-up man. He'll take the blame for many situations he did not create. And he'll get out from under them and emerge as the victor, or we'll be looking at a Jeb Bush - Sarah Palin 2012 ticket. One that could actually win.

I MUST hold onto the belief that we are better than that.

[babylonsister]

18. I don't want to believe it either, but

I saw what 1/2 the country did in 2004.

I'm also listening (too much) to the people who are already making declarations of how bad Obama is.

I don't agree, and while he hasn't pleased me on several issues, he's so much more presidential than anyone I've seen in a very long time.

I pray we are smarter, too.

PS Then, an ExtenZe commercial comes on during Maddow, and all just might be lost. :(

[Amerigo Vespucci]

19. Obama's not gaining ANY traction with the fundies...

...at the exact moment in which I clicked on your reply, an email came in from a fundie friend of mine.

Subject line: "President Obama Corrected by Congressman on 'Christian Nation'"

DU has a bit of a chip on its shoulder when it comes to fundies.

Between now and 2012, I'd be doing everything possible to take that chip off and plan a strategy to counter their efforts.

Atheists can remain atheists. Agnostics can remain agnostics. I'm a Christian, and I could give a rat's ass about anyone "agreeing" with me.

We MUST remember how Bush gained traction. It all started with Monica Lewinski and Bush's promise to "restore dignity to the Oval Office."

Eight years later, we know how that went, but Americans seem to suffer from short term memory loss.

It's June 2009. KNOWING that Jeb Bush 2012 is a Republican wet dream, what can we do about it...NOW?

[babylonsister]

22. Ha! I didn't mention fundies, I was referring to the gop.

So what was the content of that e-mail?

And I don't have a chip anywhere (ok, usually).

Bush gained traction because he had all those neocons around him who had planned it for awhile, starting with lying idiot son into guv of TX vs. Ann Richards. They slimed her mercilessly.

They found a willing patsy and worked it. He could never have gotten where he did on his values or principles or anything that would ever infer he had any redeeming qualities unless he had help.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

30. The email was primarily a link to a YouTube clip...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpQOCvthw-o

"Congressman Forbes asks the questions "Did America ever consider itself a Judeo-Christian nation?" and "If America was once a Judeo-Christian nation, when did it cease to be?" on the floor of the US House. "

I know you don't have a chip on your shoulder...but "fundies" is a dirty word on DU, and...to coin a word made popular by our beloved 2000-2008 moron-in-chief, we should never "misunderestimate" what they're capable of.

I'm not on the email lists of any "progressive" friends...not do I want to be...and my fundie friend is a genuinely decent guy who has been tremendously supportive of my business (and who provided me with two of my clients). I just don't see eye-to-eye with him politically.

He sends out an average of two to three fundie emails, every day. So every time President Obama gives a shout-out to atheists, the fundies start emailing each other.

There are people on DU who would step up and attempt to surround me in a veritable SHIT STORM for what I just posted, but it's TRUE.

I'm a Christian...by choice...and I really, really, really DO NOT CARE what any other man, woman or child on the planet believes.

But that's ME.

Fundies have tunnel vision, and fundies know how to organize themselves.

You're right..."They found a willing patsy and worked it." And Jeb Bush has been the patsy-in-waiting for YEARS.

I don't know what's going to happen between now and 2012. I just know that President Obama is going to have to fight for a second term, because Bush's failures have already been laid at his feet, and so far, the GOP's remedy for what ails us is putting another Bush in charge.

[babylonsister]

31. Do you know what?

Thank you for your thoughts and comments, because I don't read them often. I don't think you share often.

He's going to have a fight, but the fact that he's not favoring any religion works in his favor.

As for fundies, I'm glad you know someone who is willing to work with you regardless of his religion.

That's what it's all about. We need to learn to accept each other.

I don't care what religion anyone is. I'm not religious, and I respect anyone who thinks differently than I do. Period.

Respect works in every relationship anyone ever has. Or it should.

[donco6]

11. No Effing Way. Seriously.

It'll never happen. Americans may be dull, but not THAT dull.

[Bolo Boffin]

12. Nooners is going to help them get back on track????

:rofl:

Tell us another one!

[Sebastian Doyle]

14. The Bush Crime Family has been behind ALL Repuke presidencies since 1952.

Nixon was a tool of the Bush Crime Family since 1946. Ike Eisenhower was Prescott Bush's "golfing buddy" and it was he that introduced the two of them and made the 1952 ticket. Dick ran unsuccessfully in 1960, but came back 8 years later.

Ford was part of the Warren Commission coverup, and a likely stooge to bring in as the placeholder when first Agnew, and then Nixon himself were forced to step down.

Poppy Bush hijacked Reagan's campaign at the 1980 Repuke convention and inserted himself as the VP nominee, then (much like Cheney did for the Chimp) picked most of the cabinet himself. There were only two actual "Reagan appointees" in his cabinet, the rest were all Bush Crime Family flunkies.

Then obviously, Poppy and Chimpy themselves.

And the same people who forgot what Nixon, Reagan, and Poppy did to this country, when they voted in 2000, will probably forget what Chimpy did by 2012. Especially if they're FAUX Noize viewers or hate radio fans, and STILL aren't aware that the dumb bastard did anything wrong.

[tom_paine]

15. Well said and sadly true. n/t

[glitch]

17. Earlier.

Don't ask.

[tabbycat31]

20. it's a (Jeb) Bush/ (Liz) Cheney 2012 ticket

[glitch]

34. Oh damn, I should have read through all the posts before responding above.

We are on the same wavelength tabbycat31.

[sendero]

23. I f Obama keeps failing..

... to deal with the economy, he will be a one termer and a Republican is the likely replacement because Americans have a really short memory.

[opihimoimoi]

24. Whatever they be smoking...I want.....Re: Watson.:: "Another Bush?"......."ya gatta be kidding".....

Empty talk to fill the clip....these dudes ain't got shit....their ammo stinks....its wet shit....

[SoCalDem]

25. Yay Jebbie.. Go Jebbie , Go

[babylonsister]

27. Do you remember all the stupid pics of his bro we've seen while

having to endure him, before and after?

I don't think a few pix make a lot of difference.

[SoCalDem]

28. But he would be sooooo much fun to beat up. Bush/palin

that would be too much fun:) Especially when Levi gets pissed off enought top admit that he & Bristol are Trig's parents, and Sarah is exposed as the liar we all know she is:)

[babylonsister]

29. Palin would doom him.

I can't even believe anyone is serious about her. Jeb would be a star compared to her, and that's worrisome. Unlike her or his brother, he's not stupid.

I think I'd prefer Romney/Palin, because he sounds seriously, to me, like another rethug box of rocks. He's not credible as a brain at all imo. I know his resume is great, but to me, oi.

[lpbk2713]

26. Sure. Let the Jebster run with his pal Katherine Harris as running mate.

What a pair of boobs that would be.

[RamboLiberal]

37. MSNBC has just rewarded Watson with his own hour

First on TVNewser: Carlos Watson, who officially joined MSNBC as a dayside anchor in March, will be the host of the 11amET hour. His first day was today.

The move continues to fill in the gaps on MSNBC dayside ahead of the June 29 move to HD and addition of programs at 9amET and NoonET.

Initially, it was reported David Gregory would anchor one day a week at 11amET. Norah O'Donnell was also slated for a morning hour. She told TVNewser in April: "I look forward to my new hour in the mornings!"

Now it appears the morning line-up is set, with Dylan Ratigan anchoring 9-11am and Dr. Nancy Snyderman at Noon.

Watson was recently asked not to promote his personal Website, The Stimulist, and although he didn't mention the site by name, he did bring over one of the features. "Now we're going to move on to my daily big thought," said Watson, delivering his take in a segment called "The C-Note." That name is used for his personal column on The Stimulist, and today's topic was taken directly from his June 5th post.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/msnbc/another_hour_filled_carlos_watson_gets_11am_slot_on_msnbc_118952.asp