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armyowalgreens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 06:58 PM
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Poll question: Do you support revolution in Iran?
Edited on Sun Jun-14-09 06:59 PM by armyowalgreens
There seems to be a few sides to this argument.



Which one do you think is true?
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Baikonour Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 07:00 PM
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1. Yes and no.
I do support a revolution that overthrows all corrupt religious and political leaders.

However, I don't support a revolution that replaces one criminal with another.

People need to look into Mousavi's connection to the 1988 massacre in Iran.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 07:00 PM
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2. Let's stay out. We don't need war zone stretching from Jordan to India.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 07:20 PM
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9. And Korea, too.....nt
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 07:02 PM
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3. Other - I support free and fair elections
and at this point, I don't know whether they were free or fair.

I don't support any revolution to overthrow a democratically elected government.



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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 07:02 PM
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4. Other
Iran's citizens have every right to support a revolution there. I do not.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 07:02 PM
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5. I don't know enough about the situation.
or the sentiments of the Iranians toward either candidate.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 07:15 PM
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6. I do, but he's their dictator. It's their job to overthrow him, not ours.
If, of course, that's what they want.

And I said the same thing in 2003 about Iraq and Saddam Hussein.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 07:16 PM
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7. We need to stay out of it...
as painful as it is to watch. A revolution must happen from within, without US/European interference. It is hard to see these people in such pain, mostly emotionally, but also seeing the brutality their own countrymen are using against them. My heart is sinking. I hope it all turns out for the best. :cry:
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 07:25 PM
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11. And we've proven pretty freaking bad at "liberating" people.
It has to be done by the people involved for their to be any legitimacy to whatever Government takes over in the aftermath. We just have to cross our fingers that the right team wins. Whoever the hell that is at this point. I wouldn't pretend to know if Mosavi is any better than Am-a-dinner-jacket. Who really needs to be tossed out is the theocracy.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 07:20 PM
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8. Other: That's for the Iranian people to decide, not us. NT
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 08:07 PM
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16. +1
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:25 PM
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20. That's what I was gonna say. n/t
Edited on Sun Jun-14-09 09:25 PM by Ian David
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Interloper Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 07:24 PM
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10. An Excuse For Oppression
Rioting in the streets will serve to justify a military coup
and to impose a police state.
That was probably the reasoning behind rigging the election in
the first place.
But, keep in mind, the candidate that the rioters are
supporting, was not a good guy either.
He was a former president and compaigned to return Iran to the
principles of Khomanies revolution. Is THAT reform?

At any rate now they know how we felt when W was reelected in
2004. Why didn't we riot?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 08:03 PM
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12. I can see no physical role for the U.S. in Iran.
We have been singularly unsuccessful at manipulating foreign governments during my lifetime. I cannot see that we can do anything material to affect Iran.

As much as I want to see Iran become a democracy of some sort, I believe it must be the Iranians who bring that about. We fail when we meddle.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 08:04 PM
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13. The vote was rigged.
But a bloody revolution is not the answer ... it seldom is. War is bad.

:dem:

-Laelth
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:56 PM
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25. But necessary at times.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 11:23 AM
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28. Sadly, that's true.
But I can not in good conscience advocate it or encourage it for the people of another country. That's their decision to make, not mine.

:dem:

-Laelth
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 08:05 PM
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14. Liberating people isn't this countries strong suit,so no. Change comes from within, not from outside
Edited on Sun Jun-14-09 08:08 PM by AlCzervik
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 08:07 PM
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15. I feel sorry for the kids that have to fight (be shot) in the revolution
But, being that they aren't mine, and I don't know em...
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 08:14 PM
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17. It's easy to vote for a possible bloodbath from my keyboard.
I should have thought about this more before making my selection.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 08:14 PM
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18. The Iranians deserve to decide for themselves.
The US should steer clear of any suggestion that it meddle inside of Iran.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 08:15 PM
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19. Yes, Iranian affair only
no outside meddling. But the Iranians need to throw out the "winner" of this rigged election.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:47 PM
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21. Yes. Also no intervention should be neccessary if it is a true revolution
Rather than an astroturf CIA backed "revolution."
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:50 PM
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22. Yes, regardless of the election.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:53 PM
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23. I would prefer the CIA not be involved with any revolution in Iran.
The truth would eventually come out. It always does.

That would serve to reinforce fear of American aggression among other nations, leading to greater strength for hardliners around the world. Just as importantly, it would make the Iranian government look entirely illegitimate in the eyes of Iranians and the Muslim world. Neither are worth it.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:56 PM
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24. I simply have no way of knowing if the Iranian people support a revolution or not
Perhaps they do. Perhaps more of them would want change within their existing system such as advocated by their own pro-democracy movement.

Yes, I do believe that the evidence supports the notion that the election was at the very least filled with fraud and was quite likely stolen. However, I do not know what the final result of the election would be without the fraud; nobody does.

I am however, absolutely certain that nothing, absolutely nothing would harm the forces of democracy and reform in Iran more than for the democracy and reform movement to be seen as stooges of the United States. That would be about as helpful for them as if the hardliner Iranian clerics publicly endorsed the Democratic Party in America.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:59 PM
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26. Do we have any say in it?
Hell, you can't even get Americans to protest the fleecing of their national wealth by corrupt financial institutions.
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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 10:02 PM
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27. I support the indignation of the people
and am inclined to think they are angry for a good reason. But it's not my job as an American to get involved in their internal affairs or assume I know what's in their hearts and minds. I would bet that Iranians want some resolution without my input.
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