Oh Boy - Reports Of Iranian Police (Hezbollah?) Round Up And Killing Children....

[BlooInBloo]

http://niacblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/election-unrest-day-two/

"1:05 update: According to our private phone conversations with people in Tehran, hundreds of parents have gathered by a police station in Yousef Abad, now known as Seyyed Jamal Aldin Asad Abadi, with their hands raised to the sky saying “Obama, please help us, they are killing our young children.” They were gathering there because their kids are missing and they were trying to find out where they are.

Also, according to eyewitness accounts, gunshots could be heard last night until 3am in Elahiyeh, alongside chants of “God is great!” from people on their rooftops. This was a widespread tactic in the 1979 revolution, in which people were urged to take to their rooftops and shout “Allah-u Akbar.”"



Jeez - if even 5% of what we're hearing is true, it's too much. But this one in particular. :(

[babylonsister]

1. "Obama, please help us..."??

Hmmm. Why Obama? Why not Mousavi? I have problems with that. I also wonder what the truth actually is.

[movonne]

16. I think Mousavi is under house arrest...

[medeak]

28. he made a speech today according to twit

(joined last night to follow it all...and he called for more demonstrations. I thought he was under house arrest yesterday but he was able to give speech today?

[leftstreet]

2. Sorry but this sounds like utter bullshit

"Obama please help us" !!!111111

:eyes:

[BlooInBloo]

3. It definitely could be.

[leftstreet]

7. It's good you posted it, in case it's true. DU should always lead the way

:eyes:

[aquart]

4. I don't think they'd be calling on Obama.

And I haven't heard anything about disappeared children. Lotta injuries. Definitely some killings. We only know what we hear and see. YouTube has pictures of the bruises and at least one killing. THAT'S MILD if that's all it ever is. But with the military reported as neutral?

Another rumor has a police station seized by protesters. That puts guns in their hands. Then it gets very different.

[MADem]

5. Kidnapping is a time-honored (relatively speaking) tradition in that region.

They kidnap to get people to do what they want. You want to shut down the opposition? Threaten the life of a child or an elderly parent. Bust in and take them, or snatch them off the street.

You don't even have to hold them in arduous conditions, you can put them in a suite with an XBOX and candy, the whole idea is to create uncertainty and terror.

[Hannah Bell]

6. incubators! human shredders!

[ProgressIn2008]

23. I know, I'm waiting for the incubator stories. nt

[BuyingThyme]

8. Is the CIA writing this stuff?

Or Dick Cheney?

[EFerrari]

9. Or the State Department. They have plenty of @ssholes there, too.

[EFerrari]

10. It's probably that some college students have been arrested,

young people, not "young children", for rioting and that their parents are upset. But the bit about them taking to their rooftops calling out for Obama is silliness.

[bobburgster]

13. Lots of tweets calling for shouting from the rooftops

But certainly not to call on Obama! That is definitely silly, and sounds like something the Bush administration would cook up.

[EFerrari]

14. Yep. If the streets are dangerous, the roof is probably a good place

to be. The Iranian government is as sophisticated as BushCo in their propaganda, that's for sure.

[chrisa]

31. Rioting.

Is what happens when you steal an election.

[EFerrari]

35. Yes. But rounding up young children isn't. Someone has to write that. n/t

[Mari333]

11. kinda like what Bush did

http://robertscourt.blogspot.com/2009/05/children-unlamented-victims-of-bush-war.html

[janx]

12. There have been twitter and youtube reports of rubber

bullets being fired. You can hear gunshots in some videos, but it's not clear what is being fired. The parents are probably looking for their college students. ??

It's awfully hard to tell what is going on since the online information is coming from everywhere and nowhere. :shrug:

[BlooInBloo]

15. "It's awfully hard to tell what is going on..." - Yep - since Iran has cut comms...

I'm with Sully on the idea of putting what reports we have out there, and letting them thrive or wither in the face of future information.

[opihimoimoi]

17. Arrogant Despotic Symptoms ...this is negative....not good..

Sad

[BlooInBloo]

18. Yep. Interesting interview with Mousavi spokesman....

http://www.roozonline.com/english/news/newsitem/article/2009/june/14//thehran-a-political-coup.html

[opihimoimoi]

20. The DeFacto Despot is pushing a tad too far....The Argentine Generals did that too...fucked with the

kids, the opposition, and many many ended up missing...

That ended soon enough as the Peeps took to the streets...

Lets see if the Iranians desire for Good Government is as strong...they are being judged ...

We can only hope they make the right decision..

[Alamuti Lotus]

19. I heard they're also throwing babies out of incubators and stuff

all this real-time historical revisionism is running away with some people.....

[Junkdrawer]

21. LOL..I was just about to make the same post....

For those who haven't heard...

http://www.prwatch.org/books/tsigfy10.html

[EFerrari]

22. That was Hugo Chavez. He's there with Fidel and Dame Edna.

[Alamuti Lotus]

24. Oh, right.. I really just like using the phrase "real-time historical revisionism"

it's a nice way of saying "that's a fucking hysteric lie".

[EFerrari]

25. I'm waiting for photo evidence of the Stay Puft man, myself.

[Alamuti Lotus]

26. Oh, it's coming.. he's draped all in green to celebrate the Green Revolution

that's what the idiots are calling it now. May it fester and rot alongside the equally contrived "Velvet" and "Rose" and "Orange" and whatever the fuck else euphemisms used to celebrate imperialist takeover.

[EFerrari]

27. How are you holding up?

It's been a long, long weekend.

[Alamuti Lotus]

29. Amused

I have yet to form any opinion whatsoever of the current events, but the various lines of responses are ranging between hilarious and depressing. Spent most of the weekend out working, sniping at the hysterics is a welcomed 'rest' of sorts.

[EFerrari]

36. 250+ Indians in Peru were disappeared last week protesting their

homicidal government. No tweets that I know of, no hysterics, nada. I guess if you are up against a "free trade" agreement, you don't count.

[Alamuti Lotus]

42. sorry, they're not as telegenic as the rich kids throwing bombs in their nice neighborhoods

Let the Peruvians find some designer clothing lines, pay a few rightwing bloggers to tweet for them, and then we'll talk. Endlessly.

[EFerrari]

43. I was just called a traitor for pointing out that

abstracting the conflicts of others is not cool.

Whatever. You've seen one Gucci protester, you've seen them all. I have no idea what is happening in Iran and that's about what I know at the moment besides the certain fact that the propaganda is being catapulted big time.

[Alamuti Lotus]

44. I must've missed that, where at?

I haven't received too much heat like that yet.. at least, not more than what I'm used to -- which may be a little higher than your average bear; I am well aware of my peculiarities and the typical reaction that I will initially achieve.

I see the Chavez bogeyman dots are already being connected. About bloody time, it took the idiots long enough.

[EFerrari]

45. Starts here. It's sort of disappointing that we are such a cheap date.

lol

I might go do anything else for the night, or not, but, thoughts and wishes.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5849668&mesg_id=5849888

[Purveyor]

30. WOW...the "neocon" agiprop boiler rooms are working overtime and 'pedal to the metal', eh? eom

[EFerrari]

34. You bet. Look at this beauty:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=5849503

[HarvardMed]

32. Why would they say Obama please help us?

Smells fishy

[Jack Rabbit]

33. I'd be very skeptical of any thing out of Iran right now, whatever the source

The only thing we know for sure is that the government counted ballots in record time and declared Ahaedinejad the winner.

[boppers]

39. ITYM "declared dinnerjacket the winner"...

...before polling was completed.

Even if (hypothetically) he really did get 66% of the vote (or whatever), Iran's definitely getting some hard lessons in not completely pissing off those who "lose" elections.

[rug]

37. Oh Boy - now they're feeding them Nigerian yellowcake....

:cry:

[JVS]

38. I'm not buying it.

Killing people's children only makes sense when it's a conflict based around destroying an ethnic or religious opponent (and I mean in the sense of holding to another religious tradition, not being of the same tradition buy being a more lax observer).

[Douglas Carpenter]

40. why did you mention (Hezbollah?) ??

I am no fan or apologist for Hezbollah of Lebanon, which is fair a distance from Iran. They have plenty of things to be faulted for. But, I don't see what they have to do with this situation in a different country and a different ethnicity.

Nothing, absolutely nothing would harm the pro-democracy and pro-reform forces in Iran more than being seen as stooges for the United States. It would be about as effective as if the Democratic Party in America being endorsed by the Iranian clerics.

[backscatter712]

46. The real culprits are Ansar Hizbollah of Iran, not Lebanon's Hizbollah.

Ansar Hizbollah is a right-wing vigilante group within Iran. Think of them as the Iranian equivalent to groups like the Freemen or Minutemen. They're the Iranian equivalent of people like von Brunn or Scott Roeder.

According to the chatter on Twitter in #iranelection, Ansar Hizbollah has been attacking Iranian reformist college students, riding motorcycles.

[mmonk]

41. The police aren't Hezbollah.