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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:10 PM
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Well, I Don't See How There Can Be Any Diplomatic Efforts With Iran Now
Edited on Sat Jun-13-09 02:13 PM by WeDidIt
IF you conduct diplomacy with them, you legitimize the scam of an election.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:11 PM
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1. Yes, clearly the only possible thing to do is nuke them.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:14 PM
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3. If Israel took out their nuclear facilities like they did Iraq's,...
you would not hear me complaining.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:36 PM
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7. Iran's nuclear facilities are underground because Israel took out Iraq's
Edited on Sat Jun-13-09 02:36 PM by Hippo_Tron
Surgical strikes against the nuclear facilities aren't really possible anymore because people have learned from the Osiris bombing that if you keep it out in the open, you are vulnerable.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:31 PM
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18. Okaaaayyyyy - WE HAVE A LIVE ONE HERE FOLKS!!!!
Dick, why don't you use your REAL name?!!!
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:13 PM
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2. Bullshit...
Granted, it probably won't be as successful as it might have been under the reformer, but we don't really even know that.

We should have been talking to them for 20 years or more. I'm even willing to forgive them for getting Reagan elected. ;)

There will be an international consensus on what to do about Iran. We need to be a part of that, and not necessarily the leader of it.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:19 PM
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6. Nope, sorry.
Not to a man who brazenly stole this election.

Had he won on his own merit, then I think you could justify talking to him. But not after this.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:38 PM
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9. Isolating Iran led to this, not the other way around.
Has we not pushed to isolate Iran, there might have been international monitors in there.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:45 PM
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10. Well it sucks, but that's just how it should be.
Don't give this man any credibility.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:48 PM
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11. I don't think it works. Putin stole his election, too.
And who knows how many other examples we can think of.

Ultimately, it's for the people of Iran to fix and they'll do better with some support. Remember, diplomatic ties don't only mean talking to this guy. It is also about building a network with other people in Iran and we can't do that if we don't talk to them.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:50 PM
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12. It is up the people.
I'm not saying we go militant on Iran, but make our feelings known.

We should've done the same with the sham Russian elections.

If he truly wants to open a dialogue, then I think Pres. Obama should put out a hand. However, I fear he'll now rule with a tighter grip and move even further against America.
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:07 PM
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14. Well. Raul Castro stole the Cuba election and Obama is about to normalize.
I'm kidding.

:hi:





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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:12 PM
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16. He looks a little bit like Yoda in that photo.
lol

:hi:
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Merryweather Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:18 PM
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4. Yeah, Obama's now in a bit of a bind
I know he said he'd be willing to talk with whoever won the election, but that was before we knew for sure the votes had been rigged. Not sure where we go from here.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:18 PM
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5. Yeah, the last thing the U.S. would do is support bullies.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:37 PM
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8. By the same logic, no one should have had diplomatic relations with us
for both of Junior's terms.

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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:12 PM
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15. And birthers say that the current admin isn't legit.
BUT, the US corrupt democracy is better than their corrupt democracy.

btw, has anyone seen Ahmadinejad's birth certificate?



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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:54 PM
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13. It's gonna get mighty lonely if we break off diplomacy with nations who have questionable elections.
On, no elections.
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:14 PM
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17. we can't nuke them. there are iranians that do not agree
with their government or the outcome of this election. Just watch the protests.
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