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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:18 AM
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Can you imagine if an ACORN leader murdered a nine year old white kid?
Well that's just what a Minuteman leader did- except the child and her father, who they also murdered, were latino.. Let's see how the MSM treats this. Shawna Ford is the National Executive Director of Minutemen of American. She and two of her pals, broke into the home of Raul Flores and shot him, his daughter and his wife. The wife survived and when the three white supremacists came back, she shot and wounded one of them. This happened on May 30th. The cretins were arrested yesterday.
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:20 AM
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1. Jeebus! This is the first I've heard of this!
Edited on Sat Jun-13-09 07:23 AM by Dennis Donovan
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On edit: here's the story:

http://heraldnet.com/article/20090613/NEWS01/706139922

Activist Shawna Forde charged in double slaying

Woman with troubled past in Everett now accused in Arizona

By Scott North and Jackson Holtz
Herald Writers

An outspoken anti-immigration activist who was at the center of a series of violent crimes in Everett earlier this year now stands accused of the home-invasion killings of an Arizona man and his 9-year-old daughter.

Shawna Forde, 41, and two associates in her Minuteman American Defense group are charged with two counts of first-degree murder, one count of first-degree burglary and one count of aggravated assault, according to the Pima County Sheriff's Department in Arizona.

The May 30 killings were believed to be premeditated and part of a plan to steal money and drugs to finance the Minuteman group she leads. Forde's own family said that the woman weeks ago had discussed using robberies to raise money for her cause.

Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik told the Green Valley News and Sun that Forde was trying right up until her arrest Friday "to get together a large amount of money to further sophisticate the type of operation she's interested in."


What pure evil!!!:grr:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:23 AM
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2. I want it shouted from the rooftops
Head of a minuteman group arrested for double homicide
David Marino reports on arrest of Arivaca suspects
Head of a minuteman group arrested for double homicide








TUCSON, AZ - Three people have been arrested in connection with last months deadly double homicide in Arivaca that left a nine-year-old and her father dead. One of the people arrested for the homicide is the National Executive Director of the Minuteman American Defense group (M.A.D.), a group known for patrolling the border, and is dedicated to "Defending America's Borders" according to their website - http://minutemenamericandefense.org/

Jason Eugene Bush, 38, Shawna Forde, 42 and Albert Robert Gaxiola, 43, were all taken into custody and charged in connection with the murders of 29-year-old Raul Flores and 8-year-old Brisenia Flores. Both were killed during an alleged home invasion.

According to authorities, Bush, Forde, and Gaxiola broke into the home of the Flores family just after midnight on May 30th. At the time, the mother, father and daughter were home. The invaders reportedly shot the three members of the Flores family, killing the father, Raul, and the daughter, Brisenia. The invaders then left the scene.

The mother survived the shooting, called police, and found a gun. Sheriff Dupnik says the three returned moments later to make sure everyone was dead. At that point, the mother shot and injured Bush, and the three fled the scene.

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http://www.kvoa.com/global/story.asp?s=10526106
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:28 AM
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3. I'm flabbergasted that I'd not heard of this!
This damn-well SHOULD'VE been ALL OVER the corporate media! It's another instance of domestic terrorism and should've been reported on!!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:29 AM
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4. I'm flabberghasted that DUers aren't interested in this case
This is my second OP this morning on it.
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:31 AM
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6. Did Rachel Maddow report on this?
If not, we should email her.:thumbsup:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:34 AM
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8. I don't know, but yes, we should e-mail her, Keith and others.
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Merryweather Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:35 AM
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9. Me too
The brief from Obama's DOJ defending DOMA is the focus of everyone's anger and outrage. It's entirely justified, but we must NOT forget about the rise of right-wing domestic terrorism. Which this is.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 09:28 AM
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19. At 5::30 on a Saturday morning, I would imagine most DUers are still
asleep. I know I was, and I WORK on Saturdays.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 10:26 PM
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24. Well, I was still up, hoping to hear the results of the Iranian elections.
CNN finally got to it, after rehashing Palin vs. Letterman, the GM bankruptcy, the Holocaust Museum reopening, the innocent Gitmo detainees who were sent to Bermuda, etc. As for MSNBC, they were showing something called "The Vampire Killers." Oh, right, it's a weekend, no news worth reporting. :eyes:

But I agree. Most folks are still asleep at that hour, unless they're in an overseas time zone or are insomniacs like me... :-(
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 09:30 AM
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20. Any missing blondes involved?
No?

Well, that's probably why we didn't hear about it.


Because if it were about a Missing Blonde, the mainstream media would have the story playing on endless loop.

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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:24 AM
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28. It's not a trending topic, but "Shawna Forde" is being Twittered.
Control the search by listing ACORN, Minuteman, and Shawna Forde. Those searching on ACORN will get results returned of alleged killer Shawna Forde of M.A.D.
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Merryweather Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:30 AM
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5. Holy crap
I don't think there are words bad enough for these evil bastards. :grr: I can't believe 2 weeks went by before they were arrested - they could easily have killed more people in those 2 weeks.

The real tragedy of this is that we were all WARNED in that DHS report, which no one except liberals took seriously. No one took any precautionary measures, and now look what's happened.

I hope Mr. Flores and his poor little girl RIP. :cry:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:32 AM
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7. I'm so heartbroken for Mrs. Flores. What a nightmare she's living.
and yes, Secretary Napolitano warned us.

We must push this story.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:40 AM
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10. I agree.
100%.
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Merryweather Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:40 AM
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11. Oh God yes. My thoughts are with her n/t
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:43 AM
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12. What am I missing? This should be all over the MSM this morning.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 08:47 AM
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14. Amazing M$Greedia can't have more
bad news about the GOPs base.
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 08:42 AM
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13. I am astounded this hasn't been in ANY news.
I have no faith in the corporate media, but this is ridiculous.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 08:52 AM
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15. Why are you surprised?
What country do you live in? Stories like this don't make the news because the mainstream media is only interested in depicting people of color one way: as perpetrators. If the races were reversed it's be splashed on the national media with Pat Buchanan and his ilk on the cable news talking about how danger white people are in.

That this story isn't getting the big media coverage surprises me not one whit.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 08:52 AM
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16. Wow! What a fucking maniac!
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 08:55 AM
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17. More RW domestic terrorists.
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 08:58 AM
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18. I wonder if they picked out people with Spanish
surnames on purpose. I think it should be thought of as a dual purpose murder, kill an immigrant--someone they think is illegal, though that may not make a difference--and rob them.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 09:32 AM
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21. Kicked and recommended
Thanks for the thread, cali.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 09:33 AM
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22. Shouldn't they have been charged under the RICO statutes?
After all, they were committing a crime in order to finance their organization.

Isn't that exactly what RICO was designed for?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:36 PM
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23. I would think so. Excellent point.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:55 PM
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25. Execute these Fascist thugs and send then straight to Hell.
:grr:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:12 AM
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26. K& R. Can you imagine O'Reilly and Dobbs if the facts were flipped?
However, we all know that the real issue is ... what do Sarah Palin, Rush, Newt and the Cheney media twins of Dick and Liz think about ... whatever they want to yap about - I'm sure we need to hear it over and over again.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:18 AM
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27. (shrug) I know what happens when white folks simply SAY a "big scary black man" did something...
And the reaction is quite bad enough.
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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:25 AM
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29. so when is the DHS going to release the report on right-wing terrorism?
:shrug:
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:26 AM
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30. Give me a break - this is a narcotics/money related home invasion
Not exactly a hate crime. Maybe these f'ers hatred drove them to kill the kids - and it is interesting these jerks have ties to Minutemen.

But the first motivation here was to get money/drugs.

I wouldn't be trumpeting this case as RW hate crime with ties to conservatives going nuts.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:39 AM
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32. Do they need money for their operations?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 01:04 AM
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33. Who knows - could be - what I'm saying isn't I wouldn't
start trumpeting this as an example of a hate crime. Home invasions and murders are quite common in the drug trade. I am interested to see where this one leads and about these cretins and their group. Right now they look like looney fringe of even the minutemen that got the publicity.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 04:25 AM
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35. The m'fers committed this crime to finance their anti-immigrant agenca
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:38 AM
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31. Just looked this up-great point
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 02:31 AM
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34. I can imagine that worker registering that kid to vote.
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