AC 360 fascinating... they are covering all the history for this guy

[nadinbrzezinski]

and not assuming it was a lone wolf

Folks WE MIGHT be seeing some of the press come to the realization... this is more than just lone wolves

[alfredo]

1. I bet there are ties to the fundie churches.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. To at least some... the christian identity movement has elements of

right wing christianity, but a mega church is not necessarily part of the movement. Those tend to be smaller

[alfredo]

4. The mega churches are into making money and buying influence. Terrorism

isn't profitable.

[Ex Nihilo]

22. He is

a major critic and hater of Christianity. He basically hates Christianity because it was started by a Jew. This guy is most definitely not a fundie.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Well well, they work in groups of three and do not trust outsiders...

that is a rough quote. What is that kiddies? Cells... that is a classic cell structure

[alfredo]

5. Smaller the circle, the easier it is to keep it secret.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. I know but some folks round these parts have actually said that

this is NOT happening... could not be happening

This is textbook guerrilla or insurgency operations

[alfredo]

7. The object of terror is terror. Could we be in the opening phase of

guerrilla war?

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. First here is a link to how civil wars work in modern times

but the short answer... yes... the hot phase... we've been in a cold civil war for a generation or so. You can truly see it starting with the persecution of Clinton and the impeachment, that is when it became way too obvious

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5821341

[alfredo]

12. I worked in counter insurgency back in the late sixties.

The insurgency in Iraq is highly decentralized. al Qaeda decentralized when we put the heat on them. Read the Hydra Myth.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Ah then you have experience on this

I did, sort off... hydras died a while ago...

I think the first ones to get rid of the hydra was the Red Army in Italy... oh back in the 70s...

I usually tell people to read up on the IRA since it is well studied, and you could make the argument that they decentralized too in the mid 70s before the bombing campaign.

Some of the folks I knew at one time were them scary intel types, if you get me drift.

By the way for the next novel I am toying with the idea of having an insurgency that evolves from having a head to having none at all, and being highly decentralized.

[alfredo]

15. The Yippies were a good example of an insurgency. You become a member

when you burn your membership card.

Read about the Eritrean People's Liberation Front. They were a classic insurgency. The short shorts and sandals was their uniform. The short shorts were to save cloth. Women played a big part in the liberation of Eritrea.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. How could I forget about movements in Africa

you are right.

The FMLN (El Salvador) was a combo of a headless organization and one with a head.

The contras were highly hierarchical

[alfredo]

17. the contras were right wing. That could explain why. Read this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5820448

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. Trust me I know they were right wing and funded by the CIA

which might also explain it

[alfredo]

20. I said that because of the virulent authoritarianism in the right.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. Oh and Glenny reminds me of a "well meaning" rwandan radio jock

who is facing war crime charges

[alfredo]

21. He's fuckin nuts.

If nuts' wife finds out...

[DBoon]

10. the only way two people can keep a secret

is if one of them is dead

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Cell operations in insurgency movements are very effective

I could recommend some history, but you may want to read on the best studied cell insurgency in modern times, the IRA.

[BeFree]

8. Well

We can all get an idea for how Jewish people must feel sometimes, like the whole world is against them, because it was.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. ah our shooter today was associated with Pierce... The Turner Diaries.

not just a follower.

Ah all that readying back in the 90s. This is quite the history... and by the way. LONE WOLF MY ASS