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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:25 PM
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Torture Investigation, Torture Hearings, Torture Punishment
It's as if the entire subject has fizzled and died.

Please, President Obama: make good on your promise of more openness in government. This is the change we voted for. This is what we believe in. Reveal the crimes of your predecessor. This wound will never heal until you do.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:26 PM
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1. It's off the table.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:35 PM
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2. And so I imagine we can expect news like this, here, in the future:
London's Metropolitan Police accused of waterboarding suspects

Metropolitan Police officers subjected suspects to waterboarding, according to allegations at the centre of a major anti-corruption inquiry, The Times has learnt.

The torture claims are part of a wide-ranging investigation which also includes accusations that officers fabricated evidence and stole suspects’ property. It has already led to the abandonment of a drug trial and the suspension of several police officers.

However, senior policing officials are most alarmed by the claim that officers in Enfield, North London, used the controversial CIA interrogation technique to simulate drowning. Scotland Yard is appointing a new borough commander in Enfield in a move that is being seen as an attempt by Sir Paul Stephenson, the Met Commissioner, to enforce a regime of “intrusive supervision”.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6466430.ece


This is what happens when you don't punish crimes; everyone starts thinking it must be okay.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 07:36 AM
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4. I can't wait for an excuse to use it on my kids...
"What? You didn't do your homework? It's the water board for you little Johnnie."
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 10:04 PM
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3. Tor-whut? Torches? Tortoise? Tor Cher? What is this torture thing to which you refer?
HEY BUDDY. We didn't do it, OK? The United States is not the kind of country that does that. We don't do that stuff. Moreover, we were absolutely, completely justified in doing it, if in fact we did do what you say we did, you know if it turns out that it actually happened which I haven't seen proven in any court of law by the way. But it won't happen again, and it cannot fucking happen here, because we're not the kind of country that does that, so stop saying we are! Maybe it can happen in Cuba, which is a dictatorship and I'm sure you'd love it, but not here.

Forget you. We're looking forwards...

(Those who want to coverup only wish to continue.)
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solstice Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 08:20 AM
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5. Obama's turning a blind eye to it will make it mainstream, eventually.
What a legacy.
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