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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:04 PM
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Sen. Hatch lied about Carol Lam on Meet the Press.
Here's what Bushite Republican senator Orrin Hatch said about Carol Lam, who, again, was appointed by President Bush in 2002:

She's a former law professor; no prosecutorial experience; and the former campaign manager in Southern California for Clinton.
...

Tuesday she checked with Carol Lam's people, who said that not only had she had nothing to do with the Clinton campaign, Hatch was also, um, misspeaking, when he said she was a former law professor with no prosecutorial experience - she had 15 years worth of experience, though she'd never been a law professor.


http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/013448.php

Would be nice if someone in the media had the guts to call the ranking memeber of the Judiciary Committee and the person who wants Gonzalez' job when he gets fired a LIAR!

When I heard this on Monday I thought it didn't sound right. Glad someone ran it to ground.

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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:08 PM
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1. he is scum n/t
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:11 PM
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4. That's the truth.
He was extremely smarmy on MTP last Sunday. (which is just the latest example)
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:09 PM
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2. hatch is completely without integrity
Anyone else i would have suspected of merely memorizing talking points.
But this cat is one of the poster children for compulsive lying.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:10 PM
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3. Rachel Maddow has been pointing this out for 3 days. Maybe now it will get some traction.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:12 PM
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7. follow the links from Josh, there is a great clip of Maddow on Hatch
and no, I don't mean like that (ewwww)
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 12:06 AM
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19. Hooray Rachel !!
She's the best radio personality in/from my generation. In English anyway.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:31 PM
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16. Yeah, she seems to be on a crusade with this
Updates and everything. She just wants him to return her calls.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 12:07 AM
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20. he's on vacation.
like the prez and the rest of congess.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:32 AM
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33. I've always been told
That these long vacation times are to be used for addressing the concerns of their constituents back home.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:21 AM
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38. huh. I wonder if she tried calling his Utah office n/t
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:12 PM
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5. Send this to Russert and demand that he correct the record, publicly and
that he ask Hatch back to apologize and correct his "misstatement."
We need to hold the pols AND the media whores accountable.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:12 PM
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6. Hatch is a Nazi.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:13 PM
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8. And soon to be our next Attorney General. n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:30 PM
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15. Where did you come up with from?
Soon to be?
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:58 AM
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36. Someone reported last week that Hatch was badly lobbying for the job
so Hatch thinks he's gone...and so do I. I don't think he can survive unless he convinces the republicans he did not lie.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 12:05 PM
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42. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
I believe he also wanted a Supreme Court seat, but I suspect they saw him as too old.

But this AG appointment will/would be so short that I don't know if it's worth stepping down from his Senate seat. Then again, he lives in Utah, so I'm sure they'd be willing to give it back in a couple years.
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:18 AM
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26. 'Heil Hatch!' has a certain ring to it! More so than 'Heil Gonzales!'!!! n/t
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 10:41 AM
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40. well, we know that he will lie in defense of loyal Bushies
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:15 PM
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9. He even LOOKS LIKE A LIAR! Wake up, Utah!
Maybe Waxman will publicly call his hand on this.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:16 PM
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10. Utah is in a deep, deep sleep.
Well, except Salt Lake.
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:25 AM
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25. The Mormons think he is positively Saintly...
They will never vote him out of office. If by some convolution of fate, he ends up as the Attorney General, they will find a way to give him his old job back - after Bush if finally removed from office. I just hope they have the cameras rolling when, in the midst of one of his Senate floor tantrums, his head finally explodes.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:16 PM
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11. I watched it----Hatch was absolutely LIVID--angry, butting in. etc.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:18 PM
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12. time for ACTION folks------FLOOD his office with this. Don't let him get away
with this crapola.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 12:09 AM
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21. I sent it to the local paper's gossip columnist....maybe he'll print it n/t
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:19 PM
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13. another liaR on MTP...
Glad to give the 4th rec'd to this other "why are we not surprised" great find.

(Because it's got to be known more.)

Thanks!
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:23 PM
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14. This is as good a stab at it as any I've seen.
The first question, even before saying Hatch knew it was false, is how he could come up with precisely those false attributes.

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2007/04/fact_check_caro.html

Although I must say, I've never heard of the blog (at least, I don't think I've ever heard of it).
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:36 PM
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17. Another Liar - He Has The Qualifications To Be A *Co AG,,,,,,nt
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:43 PM
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18. Hatch is beggin for the job. Showing how good he can lie, lie, lie.
It is no doubt Bush will nominate him if Gonzo is forced to go...

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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 12:20 AM
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22. When doesn't Hatch lie?
And he seems to enjoy it.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 12:48 AM
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23. Don't forget to call his office and demand a retraction.
call his office (202) 224-5251) or Fax: (202) 224-6331

And let me know what responses you get...
http://tomjoad.wordpress.com/2007/04/04/orrin-hatch-another-republicans-say-the-darndest-things/

they really, really, need to hear from us.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:22 AM
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27. Thanks for posting Hatch's numbers...
I'll call first thing in the morning. :kick:
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:23 PM
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49. Thank you. Will do!
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:07 AM
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24. The guy always reminded me of a weasel. a PATHETIC WEASEL.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 05:23 AM
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28. He should have to go on the same show this Sunday and do a retraction.
Yeah, like *that'll* happen.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 05:32 AM
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29. As my departed dad used to say about as a native Pittsburgher:
"What do you expect from someone born in Pittsburgh who moved to Utah for religious reasons?"
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 05:33 AM
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30. Early AM kick
Called both Hatch and Leahy and left messages. Will call in person later today. The level of lies is getting ridiculous, even for this administration.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 07:38 AM
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31. sounds like a good candidate for runner up to Worst Person In the World
send it to Keith Olbermann at Countdown.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 07:50 AM
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32. Don't the media prepare themselves when doing interviews like this?
They knew what the topic was going to be about.

They could easily do a quick search in a manner of minutes if needed on the spot.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:50 AM
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34. I sent this just now...
"Dear Sir or Madam:

A retraction is needed or comment should be made to correct a statement made by Senator Hatch on Sunday's show. He stated: "Take Carol Lam, for instance. … She was a former law professor, no prosecutorial experience, and the former campaign manager in Southern California for Clinton..."

All three points are untrue and were not challenged by Tim Russert at the time Senator Hatch stated them, leading the viewer to believe in their veracity. Lam has never been a professor, has never been associated with the Clinton campaign, and her 11 years as assistant US attorney certainly sounds like prosecutorial experience to me. I trust that as journalists dedicated to truth, you will address these misstatements on your next show."


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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:53 AM
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35. Want to send MTP your opinion about Hatch's comments?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:13 AM
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37. send this to tim Liar Russert!! here is his email address!!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6872152/


i just sent another scathing email to Tim (turns on his fellow broadcaster) Russert...

I told him if he spent less time sucking on Roves dick..he would have done his job and known Hatch was lying up his ass!!

no more nice for me...

fly
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 12:07 PM
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43. thanks for the link. done
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 10:02 AM
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39. Email Timmy and request a correction:
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:42 AM
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41. Done! nt
:thumbsup:
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:10 PM
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44. Thom Hartmann was outraged by Hatch's bullshit
It was near the end of his second hour today.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:40 PM
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45. Hatch wouldn't be confirmed - his staff wiretapped Dem Senators, forcing
Hatch to resign as Chair of the Judiciary Committee. See,

Daily Kos: ANNALS OF GOP SPYING: The Senate e-mail Hack & Leak
There is a persistent MO to these GOP dirty-tricks. ... Chairman Orrin Hatch angered fellow Republicans last week by opening Senate Judiciary Committee ...
www.dailykos.com/story/2006/3/9/112130/2397
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:28 PM
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46. kick
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 07:03 PM
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47. here's Madow's letter to Hatch:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/05/rachel-maddows-open-letter-to-orrin-hatch
I especially like this part:

And second, Carol Lam was an Assistant US Attorney at the time of Clinton's campaigns, and she therefore couldn't have also been a campaign manager for any presidential candidate without violating the (ironically-named) Hatch Act, which restricts political activity by federal government employees.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:25 PM
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48. The bigger question now for Hatch
Where has Hatch been getting his information on the whole US Attorney scandal? Right wing slander sheets like the National Review? What about Hatch's staff? Did they even give him a clue about why Carol Lam was or wasn't fired? Hatch must have had no idea if he didn't even know the basics about Lam. How can Hatch pretend to be an authority on the attorney firings in the future?

Hatch's reckless accusations have come from right wing propaganda sources before. If Hatch get the nomination for Attorney General, he should be asked at length how he goes about collecting information and how he's come to such crazy conclusions.
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Coloradan4Truth Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 09:32 PM
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50. Orrin Hatch Apologizes. Kind Of.
Check out the letter from OH that Rachel Maddow has on her web site!

http://www.airamerica.com/maddow/node/2498
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cascagraphic Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 04:36 AM
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51. kick
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