"The little head rules the big head."

[kentuck]

Why does the sex drive in some people, mostly men it seems, drive them to do things that are dangerous, life-threatening, embarrassing, insane, sometimes criminal, and downright stupid?

It is almost like someone tells you to not walk too close to the edge of the cliff or you might fall off or a gust of wind may surprise you and blow you over the edge, but you have no control, you must do it anyway.

Is this a mental illness or some sort of temporary insanity or what? With the recent spate of sex stories on DU, does anyone have any thoughts on this subject?

Or is this a taboo subject?

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Yes, we have heard the story about the genie in the bottle and the wish that was made, "How about a little head?" :-)

[blonndee]

1. Are you talking about rape?

Or something else? What prompted your question?

[napoleon_in_rags]

3. Probably:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=7764618&page=1

[Wizard777]

4. I'm guessing David Carradine's death

[question everything]

16. I thought Bill Maher said this earlier this evening (nt)

[Wizard777]

2. Out of all the instincts the sexual or reproductive instinct is the most powerful.

[seabeyond]

i think it is the big head fuckin with the little head personally.....

i think it is all the feeding of it, in every way possible, every sec of every day, in the crudest of ways and workin hard to go beyond the line making in cruder and more vulger (ergo more cool) that it is really fuckin with the big head...

[Avalux]

5. It's hormonal; at one point in the history of mankind, it served a purpose.

Men would leave the tribe and hunt - they needed the bravery (or stupidity) to be fearless in dangerous situations.

[paulsby]

7. correct. see my other post

it also evidences itself in the (somewhat) different strategies women employ vs. men in problem solving, how they differently assess risk, how they weigh different factors in making decisions, how "FORWARD LOOKING" they are, etc.

[paulsby]

6. it's not just the sex drive. and vive la difference

but the hormonal milieu plays a big part.

men have, on average 10 times the endogenous testerone levels women have.

women, otoh, have much more estrogen than men, and oxytocin.

men and women evolved for different (to some extent purposes), to go along with the different plumbing.

men are (on average...) far less risk averse, for example.

it's not a mental illness. it's EVOLUTION. they necessarily evolved different coping strategies because they have (historically) had different roles to fulfill.

women bodybuilders who take AAS, for instance, find that their psychology changes due to the high testerone levels. they act more like men.

as to men's general desire to schtup everything with a pulse, that also makes sense evolutionarily speaking. men can impregnate MANY women in a 9 month period, but women can only get pregnant once. it behooves the latter to be more selective and the former not to.

etc.

vive la friggin' difference.

[seabeyond]

8. give a woman a vibrator she can have an orgasms all day long. guys have to "rest".

tell me about your theories. why would that be.

[paulsby]

9. oxytocin and the refractory period

iirc, it is largely an oxytocin presence that makes the long refractory period for men (might be prolactin though, it's been a while since i studied this stuff)

this gives the body time to regenerate more seminal fluid (as a carrier for the sperm) etc. so that the man can actually have some USEFUL semen (in regards to getting a woman pregnant, which is the evolutionary purpose)

so, it makes sense.

the interesting thing is that when men are presented with a DIFFERENT sexual partner than the one they just schtupped, the refractory is significantly shortened.

also, these are not "my theories". these are those of evolutionary biologists.

also note that when a woman orgasms, her uterus tents (i believe that is the correct word) iow becomes more receptive to sperm and thus there is a higher likelihood of pregnancy. this makes sense because the woman is more likely to get pregnant from the more successful (ie more virile, stronger, more attractive, more capable) sexual partner if she has multiple partners.

again, evolutionarily speaking this makes sense.

[seabeyond]

11. this is simple biology.... it is the evolutionary whackos that is the bullshit

doesnt have the theory why women can have an oragasm all day long and guys can only have them here and there. older they get more here and less and less there.

IF your evolutionary psycho babble of guys suppose spread all over and cant help themselves and all the other bullshit, it would be a reversal.

she can get preg only once. so per the stupid evolutionary bullshit, she should only be able to orgasm a limited time, cause why waste it.... where as the male should have the female stamina...

[paulsby]

14. spare me the "whackos" rubbish and learn some science

i explained to you why women can have orgasms all day long and
men can't  .  actually, i updated my post twice, so maybe you
didn't get the whole thang.

the purpose of the male orgasm is to spread SPERM.

thus, it wouldn't make sense to orgasm without effective
regeneration of sperm/seminal fluid.

the refractory period allows the male to regenerate the
substrates etc. if the male is resting while he is doing this,
it allows the body to preferentially recover.

this is no different than (for example) strength training,
where the body has to RECOVER after the exertion before a
training effect can work.

the purpose of the female orgasm is to RECEIVE sperm, thus it
is biologically preferable to be able to orgasm frequently,
whenever there is a stimulus.

there is nothing "wasted" when the woman orgasms.  

if the woman takes sperm from multiple partners, then (again)
the most capable (and plentiful) sperm will be more likely to
be the one that impregnates her.  strongest survive.

study some frigging biology and get back to me.

every time there is a thread like this, there are always
anti-scientific people like you who will disagree with
scientific evidence that goes against their prejudices.  it's
like arguing with a creationist.  same "logic".

[seabeyond]

15. biology. the way a body friggin works. nothing to do with

all that garbage on then making up "reasons" "guess" and all the other bullshit that the evolutionary whackos are putting out.

[paulsby]

17. it is anti-scientific

people like you who complain about evolutionary biology, because it goes against your prejudices about a world where gender differences are all environmentally determined.

biology is reality.

your fantasy is that it's society that teaches men to be the way they are. in fact, it is society that often teaches men and women to reign in their base biological urges. that's what seperates us from the lesser animals.

my urges are biologically determined. but my behavior is still MY choice, because i have the free will and the agency to decide what i do. to make moral choices.

again, the most telling proof of these theories that you reject is the experience of women who take large amounts of AAS and self-report (as well as are observed) acting in ways that are contrary to their previous urges, and consistent with so called "male behavior". the difference is that they didn't LEARN over time to deal with those urges (like boys/men do) through the puberty years etc. as they develop. it's all new to them. that makes their behaviors even more "man like" in that they aren't as restrained by the experience of dealing with the urges

i revel in the fact that men and women are different. we are. it's a glorious thing. whether you think that comes from god's initial creation, or is purely a result of the physical realm - it's a great thing.

sexuality is a big part of the behavioral difference, but there is SO much more. the more biology (and psychology) you study, the clearer it becomes.

but you can choose to wallow in your prejudices and fantasies. feel free to call up some creationists for support

[seabeyond]

18. your post confirms that the big head rules. n/t

[SidDithers]

27. Amazing, eh?...

how the anti-science just "know" better than the evolutionary biologists. You can provide sound reasoning several times, but they still just "know" you're wrong. They revel in their ignorance.

Good posts in this thread, btw.

Sid

[seabeyond]

28. havent provided sound reasoning firstly, assumptions and guesses

at best to validate his own personal beliefs. provide science and then we will talk.

sound reasoning.... anti science, cause of someones perception of sound reasoning. geeesh

is the criteria for science

sound reasoning = science. that is all it takes. and my counter sound reasoning, does that make me a scientist too.

[seabeyond]

19. would you boink a 5 yr old. a dog. another male. your grandma

"men's general desire to schtup everything with a pulse"

this is the bullshit i call. men so casually and readily say things like this. i asked my hubby cause of course he has heard this boink anything with a pulse. when i asked if he would boink a 5 yr old, a dog, another male, his grandma, janet reno, he laughed, then laughed and laughed again. he says, ..... never thought of it like that. but so readily it is said. why..... to "feel like a man". if men have to say really stupid, untrue shit, what does that say about men.

then you go on to say how it make "evolutionary sense". that is your scientific formula. telling a story, that isnt true and then saying.... see i can make it fit. science. and anyone that doesnt believe is anti science.

well... while that female is preg for 9 months, i contend that the male, instead of spreading seed is suppose to be out foraging for food and protecting that mate and THAT makes more sense evolutionary survival.

my supposition makes tons more sense since i also have the FACT that as far as we have known it seems like people connect one on one as a unit as a whole, both genders, to this day.

[seabeyond]

20. btw... after hubby laughed at your post, he was the one to state the obvious

that the man would be foraging for food instead of spreading seed, which both of us contend spreading of the seed is a mere religious statement, again, not a scientific known.

but i thought it interesting the first thought in husbands head in hearing a woman preg is take care of.... not go out fucking around

[seabeyond]

24. .

[MicaelS]

10. Because sex is the only pleasure...

Some men allow themselves to have. They're afraid any other pleasurable sensation, like a bubble bath or a non-sexual massage, could be labeled feminine and thus call their masculinity into question.

[seabeyond]

12. my hubby loves massages and bubble baths. me, not so much, lol.

but, you may have a point.

[Big Blue Marble]

13. That is an explanation that really makes sense. n/t

[vadawg]

25. yeah like a bubble bath or non sensual massage even compares to a night with the dallas cowboy

cheerleaders and reruns on different strokes. id much rather have a ham shank than a bubble bath anyday.

[malaise]

21. Because In the words of Confucius

'man with hard dick has soft head'.

[ShortnFiery]

22. High "T"?

:silly:

[ensho]

23. I think the upsurge has something to do with man made hormones

that is now in everything including streams, rivers, etc. beside food.

but then I'm not a scientist. just seeing two and two making four.

[Stinky The Clown]

26. We are animals

Study animals and you'll get some insight into our own behavior.