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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:07 PM
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The TRUE Goal Of Anti-Abortion Terrorists - Killing Griswold v. Connecticut
Griswold is the precedent for Roe. You cannot overturn Roe and allow Griswold to stand.

Griswold is the case that basically made birth control legal.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:09 PM
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1. Griswold and Eisenstadt.
Griswold v. Conn. -- right of privacy for married couples to use birth control.

Eisenstadt v. Baird -- right of privacy for single people to use birth control (a lecturer handed a can of contraceptive foam to an unmarried woman in a college class).

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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:19 PM
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6. Baird's clinic was firebombed with 50 people inside in 1979.
His staff caught Peter Burkin, who was given less than two years in a mental institution.

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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:31 PM
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9. MANY object to Griswold as it recognized 'right to privacy,'
never before acknowledged. On we go from there.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:11 PM
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2. Exactly, but I think it goes beyond even the pill.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:13 PM
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3. That is completely untrue.
Edited on Fri Jun-05-09 08:13 PM by BzaDem
Both Roberts and Alito (who I don't think anyone would call liberal) fully supported Griswold in their confirmation hearings. They did not say the same thing for Roe v. Wade (they did not say one way or the other). The logic of Grisold can stand on its own, independent of whether or not the Supreme Court overturns Roe.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:16 PM
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4. Roe is entirely based upon Griswold
and I would argue that Roberts and Alito both mislead in their testimony beofre Congress, so they cannot be trusted on Griswold.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:29 PM
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8. Have you even read Roe?
Edited on Fri Jun-05-09 08:30 PM by BzaDem
Roe extends the logic of Griswold, among many other cases. If the extension of that logic were deemed in error by conservative justices, that does not mean the original logic was in error. The opinion even distinguishes the case in Roe from Griswold in certain situations.

If you would like to read Roe, you can do so here:

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=410&invol=113
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:40 PM
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11. I've read Roe n/t
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:17 PM
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5. And we should beleive anything those Catholic reactionaries say WHY?
Roberts and Alito would love to screw women over, precedent be damned.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:58 PM
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14. and Alito and Roberts voiced their honest feelings during the hearings...no doubt.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:27 PM
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7. I agree, a large percentage of the anti-choice crowd..
Is against all sex that is not for the purposes of procreation.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:59 PM
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15. Absolutely correct...sex for anything but procreation is a "sin"!!!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:40 PM
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10. 'Although the Bill of Rights does not explicitly mention "privacy,"
Justice William O. Douglas wrote for the majority that the right was to be found in the "penumbras" and "emanations" of other constitutional protections. Justice Arthur Goldberg wrote a concurring opinion in which he used the Ninth Amendment to defend the Supreme Court's ruling. Justice John Marshall Harlan II wrote a concurring opinion in which he argued that privacy is protected by the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Justice Byron White also wrote a concurrence based on the due process clause.

Two Justices, Hugo Black and Potter Stewart, filed dissents. Justice Black argued that the right to privacy is to be found nowhere in the Constitution. . .

The Griswold line of cases remains controversial, and has drawn accusations of "judicial activism" by many conservatives.'


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut
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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:49 PM
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12. Never thought about it those terms
But you are absolutely right. Thanks for making the point.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:57 PM
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13. Melissa Harris-Lacewell mentioned that on Rachel Maddow's show tonight.
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 10:15 PM
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16. Agree. Object is to get rid of all birth control so women have no control
Edited on Fri Jun-05-09 10:16 PM by kiranon
over their reproductive lives and are dependent on others. They are the American version of the Taliban. How long before women have to cover themselves up when they go out in public and will not have the right to go to school?
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