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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 01:07 PM
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"Hatred Seeds?" This supposedly from one of the world's biggest assholes
Edited on Wed Jun-03-09 01:39 PM by bigtree

SO the lackey with writing skills who's playing bin Laden wants to portray himself and his band of murderous nutjobs as some sort of benevolent protector of Arabs and Muslims against the U.S. military deployment in the Middle East.

The hundreds of thousands of dead, maimed, and displaced as a result of their supporter's attacks on civilians are a testament to the 'seeds of hatred' planted by bin Laden from when he began his murderous attacks to the present violence committed by those who identify their own cause of resistance to the American advance on their territory with al-Qaeda. Fomenting hatred against the U.S. by drawing us into a tit-for-tat war to defend the invasions and occupations Bush was lured and goaded into has been 'al-Qaeda's' cynical game all along.

It is precisely the type of outreach to the Muslim community that President Obama is engaged in this week that the opportunistic terrorist organization fears the most. As the president noted this year, al-Qaeda isn't building schools, hospitals, or homes__they're just bent on destroying and tearing down. It's all they are able or willing to do in support of their manufactured jihad.

It is also, precisely, the type of military response the Bush administration postured as a defense against al-Qaeda, in Iraq - which the Obama administration has chosen to continue, in their rhetoric and in the extension of the occupation there (and the escalation of force in Afghanistan) - that has allowed the propaganda wing of the terrorist organization to portray the goals of new administration as akin to the last one's.

It will be the president's most important challenge in his address Thursday in Cairo, to convince Muslims that the U.S. is engaged in their military deployments against the forces of al-Qaeda, and not against the civilian community in the way of that grudging offensive. The prevalence of U.S.-led attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan during this administration in which civilians have been killed has provided an opening for detractors in the region to question the sincerity of the president when he expresses concern for the safety of the population.

Moreover, the entire thrust of the continuing and escalating U.S. military activity in the region has threatened to obscure and overshadow any diplomatic or humanitarian gestures which, by nature, aren't as easily or readily approved, deployed and implemented as the militarism. That predominance of military activity allows detractors (like the scribe portraying bin-Laden) to rally Muslims and others in the region to oppose the U.S. aims and ambitions.

What President Obama needs to communicate in his address Thursday, is that the U.S. is guileless in its defenses against its al-Qaeda nemesis. That effort will require the president to express how the security interests of Muslims and others in the region are threatened by that American nemesis and to enlist their help in pushing back the scourge. But it will also require the president to reaffirm the common interests between the U.S. and countries in the region which will require more to achieve than these grudging exercises of military force against any and every combatant who identifies their cause with the terrorists.

President Obama needs to begin to turn the focus of American involvement in the Middle East away from the military mission to the realization of their oft-stated diplomatic and humanitarian goals. If this trip and address are designed to do nothing more than make room for another round of unbridled militarism, it will fail miserably.

If the address and effort by the administration is designed to isolate al-Qaeda and turn the Muslim-dominated populations away from support and toleration of the terrorists and their allies the president will need to demonstrate (rhetorically, and later in actions) his commitment to independence and primacy of these nations in confronting what the U.S. now regards as their own responsibility to vengeance. The 'seeds of hatred' planted by the original 9-11 attackers have produced a harvest of self-perpetuating attacks and reprisals in the Middle East and Asia. It is the president's task to avoid feeding and watering that deadly growth with more arbitrary militarism.

Before leaving for the Middle East, the president spoke to the task ahead Thursday and beyond. "You know, there are misapprehensions about the West on the part of the Muslim world," he told the BBC. "And, obviously, there are some big misapprehensions about the Muslim world when it comes to those of us in the West."

"I think the thing that we can do, most importantly, is serve as a good role model. And that's why, for example, .. closing Guantanamo, from my perspective, as difficult as it is, is important," the president said. "The danger I think is when the United States or any country thinks that we can simply impose these values on another country with a different history and a different culture."

This is an entirely new crop the president is hoping to sow in the region's scorched earth with his outreach. All the remnants of the original al-Qaeda can hope to do in response is to salt the ground before him with their goading hate. The opportunity to build and grow is all Mr. Obama's.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 01:57 PM
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1. ...
Edited on Wed Jun-03-09 02:20 PM by bigtree
(so much for all the talk about DUers wanting 'constructive' threads to respond to.)

:banghead:
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 03:17 PM
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2. Is Osama bin Laden dead?
Who is sending this, this time. We've seen various Osamas that would come out for a Democrat helping a Republican several times over the years.

Now another release saying that Obama is creating unrest. Unrest is the money maker for the Republican Industrial-Republican-Military-Complex. In other words, OBL comes out hurting Dems and helping Republicans once again.

Voters here are easily fooled with our sycophantic Republican media, but are middle-easterners fooled. I don't think so.

I do think Obama is being inclusive and it is working everywhere except Israel, and Israel is floundering with lousy response.


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 06:58 PM
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4. who knows?
The president refused to mention him by name today.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 03:25 PM
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3. There will always be unrest in Pipelinestan
Although, I think Obama will probably do an excellent job in communicating hope and change in his Cairo speech. (And I don't mean that as snark.)
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 07:04 PM
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5. look at all the children killed in the recent drone attack!
Edited on Wed Jun-03-09 07:18 PM by G_j
there were many who suggested that Obama begin with a moratorium on aggressive military actions and violence.

guess that suggestion wasn't taken... :shrug:

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8068930.stm

Afghans counter US deaths figure

A report by the independent human rights commission in Afghanistan says 97 civilians were killed in a US air attack earlier this month.

The figure differs from that of the US military, which says it believes 20 to 30 civilians may have been among up to 90 people killed.

The deaths occurred in the province of Farah, during a battle between Afghan and US security forces, and insurgents.
President Karzai says civilian deaths are boosting support for insurgents.

The report by Afghanistan's Independent Human Rights Commission - AIHRC - is also very different from earlier Afghan government figures, which said up to 140 civilians died in the US air attack.

The report by Afghanistan's Independent Human Rights Commission - AIHRC - is also very different from earlier Afghan government figures, which said up to 140 civilians died in the US air attack.

This independent commission says it believes that the vast majority of those killed in Bala Baluk district were not armed insurgents, but children.

After a week-long study, the report's initial conclusion is that 65 children and 21 women died in the US air attack, along with 11 adult male civilians.

The air strike took place after insurgents attacked Afghan police positions.

The commission says a group of up to 300 militants knowingly placed civilians at risk by sheltering in their houses.

But it accuses the US military of an excessive response.


..more..

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& this source reports,

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=21440


60 cross-border predator strikes carried out by the Afghanistan-based American drones in Pakistan between January 14, 2006 and April 8, 2009, only 10 were able to hit their actual targets, killing 14 wanted al-Qaeda leaders, besides perishing 687 innocent Pakistani civilians. The success percentage of the US predator strikes thus comes to not more than six per cent.

Figures compiled by the Pakistani authorities show that a total of 701 people, including 14 al-Qaeda leaders, have been killed since January 2006 in 60 American predator attacks targeting the tribal areas of Pakistan. Two strikes carried out in 2006 had killed 98 civilians while three

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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 10:03 PM
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6.  Thanks for this.
Off to the greatest, hopefully more DUers will get to read it now.

"President Obama needs to begin to turn the focus of American involvement in the Middle East away from the military mission to the realization of their oft-stated diplomatic and humanitarian goals"

Absolutely agree 100%. I'm looking forward to hearing his speech and hope, like you do, he focuses on the matters quoted above. Unfortunately this doesn't appear to be a concept that's being grasped by enough posters on DU.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:51 AM
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7. thanks, Turborama
. . . just got in from work and looking forward to his speech as well (if it hasn't already happened . . . searching . . .)
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