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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:05 PM
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OMG The FBI was called the day before Roeder killed Dr Tiller when he vandalized a clinic
KCK clinic says vandalism may be linked to Tiller suspect
By JUDY L. THOMAS
The Kansas City Star


The suspect in Sunday’s slaying of Wichita abortion doctor George Tiller matches the description of a man who vandalized a Kansas City, Kan., clinic twice in the past month — including the day before Tiller was killed, the clinic’s office manager said today.

Scott Roeder, who is being held in Wichita in connection with Tiller’s death, is scheduled to make his first court appearance in Wichita this afternoon.

Jeffrey Pederson, office manager of the Central Family Medicine clinic, 720 Central Ave., said a man glued the locks shut on the clinic’s doors on May 23 and again on Saturday morning.

Pederson said he filed a police report after both incidents and contacted the FBI, giving them the suspect’s license plate number after Saturday’s incident.

more . . . http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/1229703.html?mi_pluck_action=comment_submitted&qwxq=7823661#Comments_Container
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:06 PM
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1. Yep. There was every single warning possible. n/t
Edited on Tue Jun-02-09 05:09 PM by EFerrari
/oops
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:08 PM
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3. Well shit
I heard about this vandalism Sunday afternoon. I figured surely it was another loon who had done it.

And interesting thing is they don't do abortions at this clinic.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:12 PM
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7. When did facts ever stop one of these people? How are you holding up?
I've been keeping you all in my thoughts. :hug:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:13 PM
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10. I am okay
I was on the news last night.

http://www.kmbc.com/video/19629057/index.html
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:18 PM
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14. That was very well done. Exactly.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:19 PM
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16. an email from a KS friend Sunday evening ---
I didn't post this then because I didn't want to be giving out information that might not be in the general news loop --

"Yet more fearful is the same man was caught on security cameras 2 times in the past week gluing the locks at the small clinic in KC. The last being yesterday shortly before the Doctor was to arrive. Had he not been frightened off the doctor would have been a clear target when he tried to enter 30 minutes later."

It's quite clear there were enough red flags on this guy to backdrop a soviet may day parade. But the target was only a women's clinic doctor, no one special.


:grr:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:23 PM
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18. What we need to do is get up in Eric Holder's face about this.
He seems to be mostly on board already but the evidence is clear that no one took this threat seriously enough.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:07 PM
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2. Pederson didn’t expect authorities to make them a priority at the time he reported them
<snip>

Pederson said the incidents were disturbing, but he didn’t expect authorities to make them a priority at the time he reported them.

“Criminal damage is just a misdemeanor,” he said.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:09 PM
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5. He had done the same thing in 2000
and he was a convicted felon.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:08 PM
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4. Don't blame the FBI - blame the Witchita PD
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:09 PM
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6. For what?
How did they drop the ball?

This clinic is in Kansas City, not Wichita.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:16 PM
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13. Wherever he was killed
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 11:18 PM
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31. Sorry I don' t follow
How is his this the fault of the local cops?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:12 PM
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8. Is the FBI falling down on the job, or what?
They had that guy who shot those two kids out of boot camp in front of the recruiting station in Little Rock under surveillance, because he had travelled to Yemen and got arrested there for using a SOMALI passport.

Maybe if they'd been watching him more closely, those kids would not have been shot.

If that clinic didn't have video surveillance happening...well, I give up. It seems like they really should have that sort of protection.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:15 PM
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12. It's in a very low income area and treats the uninsured
I would imagine a surveillance system is quite expensive.

If you want to help them:

Central Family Medicine clinic
720 Central Ave
Kansas City, KS 66106
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:24 PM
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19. Surveillance system -- see my post #16
They had one. they caught him on it. Nothin' happened.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 07:20 PM
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28. This isn't his Late Term Abortion facility, though.
Dr. Tiller's Late Term Abortion Care clinic on E. Kellogg Street in Wichita, KS, has been closed. It's not going to reopen. This KC clinic mightt have a different fate.

That's what his wife said, and was verified by a doctor from Nebraska who initially thought it was going to open again.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 07:40 PM
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29. I know
That doctor from Nebraska announced yesterday he was going to help at the Wichita clinic. Then today the Tiller family said no. I can definitely understand why they wouldn't want anyone else endangered.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:13 PM
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9. One More Rec for the Record, Somebody?
As I said of the FBI Yesterday, why infiltrate, when you can own?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:14 PM
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11. gladly. Can someone explain why this man isn't charged w terrorism?
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:19 PM
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17. My guess is he's in Kansas and doesn't "look like a terrists".
Oh, and he's supposed to be a Christian. There's that too.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:18 PM
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15. Why aren't we taping these "terrorists" phones? nm
Edited on Tue Jun-02-09 05:25 PM by rhett o rick
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:30 PM
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20. I clicked on the video and there you were running on a treadmill.
I thought - how odd.

Then I realized it was a commercial.

Seriously, thanks for posting. Well done.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 07:07 PM
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26. LOL
thanks
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:50 PM
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21. No one could have predicted that it would happen -- just like 9/11.
After all, it's not like clinics had been vandalized and medical providers shot before -- then it might have been predicted.

Why Tiller himself hadn't even been shot for about 16 years, so who could have expected it?
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Blue For You Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:54 PM
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22. Lock him up and glue his jailhouse door shut. /eom
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 05:54 PM
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23. Kick and 10th Rec. Solidarity, sisters. Solidarity.
:grouphug:

Hekate


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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 06:48 PM
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25. Stand together against murder. Take a bold stand.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 06:45 PM
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24. Kick
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 07:17 PM
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27. And for this the whole nation has a HOMELAND SECURITY POLICE STATE!!!!!!!!??? ???!!!!!!!!!
:wtf:
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 07:56 PM
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30. You can lead a jackass to water but ya can't make it drink.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 01:33 AM
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32. "It’s the same car. It’s the same guy.’”
From the article:
On Sunday morning, Pederson said, he got a call from Wichita about Tiller’s murder. At 1 p.m., he said he got another call from his Wichita contact who gave him the suspect’s license plate.

“I was just sick,” he said. “That was the plate I gave the FBI Saturday. I called the FBI back and said, ‘It’s the same car. It’s the same guy.’”

The article also notes the repeat behavior of Roeder having vandalized this clinic in 2000 as well.

So, Roeder has a history of behavior, from vandalizing to possessing bomb equipment.

He also has been in contact with Cheryl Sullenger, Operation Rescue's senior policy adviser, who in 1988 was convicted of conspiring to bomb a California abortion clinic. We know this because when questioned about her name and phone number having been seen in his car, she saidshe hasn't spoken with Roeder recently. "No, he hasn't called me recently," Sullenger said. Recently clearly means he has called her before.
http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2009/06/inside_the_car_of_the.php

Yet he was free to commit this crime and even now, is not being charged with terrorism.

Damn, just damn.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 10:59 AM
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33. K&R for visibility
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:39 PM
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34. K&R
:kick:
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