Who is the bigger threat to America? Wingnuts or al-Qaeda?

[Kievan Rus]

Who do you think is the greater threat to the safety of public places in America, and the overall continuation of a safe society? The wingnuts such as the insane Talibaptists, plus morons like Jim Adkisson, Timothy McVeigh, Eric Robert Rudolf, Richard Poplawski and Scott Roeder, or Islamic terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda, Hamas and Islamic Jihad?

Both are batshit insane and express a base hatred of 21st century progress, modern ways of living, women's rights, gay rights, racial equality, religious pluralism, peacefully discussing issues, science, bipartisanship and freedom of speech.

I'd have to go with the wingnuts and Talibaptists as being more dangerous. They're both equally insane, but the wingnuts and Dominionist crazies are concentrated over here and al-Qaeda and Hamas are mostly in the Middle East. There's many more wingnuts in this country, and there's conservative media morons indirectly fueling their violence with foolish and inconsiderate speech. Furthermore, the FBI and Homeland Security have placed less emphasis on domestic whackos since 9/11. Nobody is looking out for wingnuts because Bushco got everybody scared of the al-Qaeda threat. The Taliban and al-Qaeda is more concerned with NATO forces in Pakistan at the moment. And while most wingnut acts of violence are relatively low-scale...I greatly fear that as the fringe element of the right gets even more extreme, that there will be worse attacks by them in the coming months and years.

Who do you think is more dangerous?

[TahitiNut]

1. Uhhh... what's the difference?

:dunce:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

3. same guys

[AllentownJake]

2. Wingnuts

Al Quaeda doesn't get to vote on the economic terrorist.

[JI7]

4. both need to be kept in check

[csziggy]

5. One of the people interviewed today said the only difference between

American fundamentalists and the Taliban is 8,000 miles. He was right.

The Right Wing Nuts have already done more damage to our country than Al Qaeda ever did, especially when you look back to their beginnings, whether you think they started with Noxin in the late 60s or Raygun in the 80s. They are the ones who escalated the culture wars to the point where wackos like Timothy McVeigh and Roeder kill other Americans because of differing points of view.

And when you look at what Cheney and Bush did to tear up the Constitution and take away our rights, there is no doubt at all.

[Kievan Rus]

6. Ronnie helped both of 'em

Ronald Reagan was willing to help both of them back in the 1980s. He courted the wingnuts to win elections over his liberal opponents, and gave all kinds of weaponry to the radicals in Afghanistan to defeat the Soviet Army...some of whom became al-Qaeda after they left in 1989.

[Dragonfli]

7. The Talibornagain and other RW terrorists

Only because they have so many sleeper cells fully active and thriving within our borders.

Also they appear to be able to organize and plan their attacks openly and with impunity on sites such as FreeRepublic making their chatter too cacophonous to track properly.

Another danger of these domestic terrorists is that they have agents within our very own government with a great deal of power.

The apathy to this terrorist threat is going to be it's greatest single strength in carrying out it's fascist dominionist goals.

That is of course only an opinion but I would like to get an honest evaluation of the threats from experts on terrorist movements.

[Howzit]

10. "...plan their attacks openly and with impunity...making their chatter too cacophonous to track..."

"Also they appear to be able to organize and plan their attacks openly and with impunity on sites such as FreeRepublic making their chatter too cacophonous to track properly."

So, you are saying that because they are so blatant and obvious, no one can understand them well enough to stop them?

I think you are correct about the "no one can understand" bit; just not sure of the context...

[Dragonfli]

12. I just meant too many to follow up on, also "so loud and often as to be ignored"

As appears to be the case regarding their most recent action.

I don't know why else the FBI or some anti-terror agency has not investigated the "chatter".

Much was scrubbed, so I can only assume the information was in the open and yet ignored, I can only guess it is because it is too much chatter to make the radar or too common, I am no expert - I am just guessing why such obvious and repetitive terrorist activity is "off the radar".

I am open to any explanations for their impunity, any at all, in a vacuum I will always try to find some answer that fits until a better answer is supplied.:shrug:

[dgibby]

8. I'd say wingnuts, since I read somewhere that you have a better

chance of being killed by a meterorite than by being killed by Al-Qaeda.

[ThomCat]

9. al-Qaeda was a made-up boogie man.

The GOP mostly has only as much power as our own party keeps giving them because our party is unfortunately full of gutless wonders who are afraid to stand up to the GOP.

I think the biggest thread to America right now is American Corporations.

Unfortunately, those corporations own our government, including our President. Our laws are written to benefit them, not us. Our treasury is given them to them, with the bill given to us. They have defined themselves as "too big to fail" or "too important to be allowed to go under" but meanwhile we're allowed to lose everything and suffer every loss by the millions because of them.

To the extent that they are considered "persons" they have all the freedom of being people but none of the responsibilities or liabilities. Unfortunately, we have all the responsibilities and liabilities and never get to enjoy those freedoms because we're real people, not wealthy corporate persons like them.

If you think the biggest threat is the GOP or al-Qaeda then you're buying into the misdirection.

[wuvuj]

17. Is the US military/defense sector too big to fail...like the banks?

Is this why the "war on terror" is being conducted....to replace the cold war?

Is the AXIS of NICKEL and DIME (and worse) the miltary/defense sector....the wall street/finance sector....the big pharma /health care sectors?

[2Design]

11. wing nuts, fox news, oreilly, ann coulter, nancy grace, beckman, hannity, etc. BFEE n/t

[Hepburn]

13. And the difference between these two terrorist groups is...

...??? :shrug:

[LiberalFighter]

14. Wingnuts because security resources are wasted on them instead of on al-qaeda.

[zbdent]

15. Wingnuts ...

because the CIA and FBI and other law enforcement types are paying attention to the possible links to that ...

I wonder how many "law enforcement" types are members of the wingnut orgs ...

[WeDidIt]

16. Wingnuts, without a doubt. n/t

[stray cat]

18. How many innocent victims has each side killed?

I think any group trying to kill innocent people in mass is a threat. If either group had a gun to my head - I would probably consider them more dangerous at the moment. Also are there such things as non-conservative wingnuts or is that considered an impossibility because all progressives are virtuous.....